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  • in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112363
    drew

      Bjgc
      Does yours say that its still processing?

      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112362
      drew

        @bjgc
        Im guessing mine will be mailed off the same day as yours seeing as though wmr updated for both of us on the same day.

        in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112361
        zach

          @bjgc

          What does Where’s My Refund show for you?
          Just wondering if it matches mine……

          in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112360
          bjgc

            Called again today said my check will be mail 6/12/15 pretty excited… But not holding my breathe… Will post again when.I.receive it

            Cathy Taylor

              My return was accepted on Feb.3rd. Have seen the Still Processing Message on Where’s My Refund ever since. I called in April (about two and a half months after I was accepted) and was told I had to verify my identity, even though I had never received that news from the IRS in the mail. If I hadn’t had been frustrated and called after two and a half months, who knows how long I would have had to wait to find this information out. The man made me verify my information and told me to wait six more weeks. Well guess what…It is four months later from the time I filed and still no change. No Refund, No notifications in the mail, and Still Processing.

              in reply to: APPROVED?! / POST FOR PEOPLE APPROVED WITH DDD. #4112353
              Tee

                Mailed my refund, return accepted May 29th and i revieved my refund the same day i was approved June 5th. Refund staus still does not say sent. Happy Camper

                in reply to: JH Preferred Card Locked #4112352
                Nivesh

                  Found the SOLUTION and YES YOU CAN TALK TO A REAL PERSON … Hope it works for all of you.
                  Please call 1-855-686-9513 and you can remain on the line to talk to an agent and get things sorted.

                  Anonymous

                    Hello,

                    I have filed my Tax returns on jan/30. Next day my status got accepted. Till now status is showing Your tax return is still being processed. No update happened. I received a letter in March, saying that My tax refund is under review will take action after April 30. but till now no communication happened. when ever I tried to reach IRS, its saying the same message Your tax return is still being processed.A refund date will be provided when available. Not Sure why its taking delay. Some one please Help me

                    lostinlimbo

                      Called again today, no issues no anything…. was put on hold twice and then hung up on.
                      I worked there many years ago and this is not how you treat taxpayers.
                      I gave up on calling….

                      in reply to: Bart's Thoughts #4112349
                      lostinlimbo

                        @zach
                        congratulations
                        I am still waiting (2/25/2015) no letters no notice and the advocates office ummmm forgot about me ( 4/1/2015)

                        in reply to: Still no refund after 104 days #4112348
                        AnitaTaco

                          I hear you! I filed 2/6 and am still waiting now at June 8 and I didn’t even have the ACA issue. They’ve sent 2 letters just saying they’re reviewing and not to do anything unless they ask me to other than wait. I haven’t gotten a letter since mid march, my wmr says still processing, a date will be given blahblah. I have no idea whats up with this crap.

                          in reply to: Bart's Thoughts #4112345
                          zach

                            @shell

                            I received my referral on May 13th.
                            Where’s my refund just updated this past Saturday, says check sent.

                            in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112344
                            zach

                              @brian

                              If WMR updated on Saturday to show check was sent, when would it really have been sent, since WMR is a few days behind?

                              Do you have the phone number you called at the treasury?

                              in reply to: Bart's Thoughts #4112334
                              Michael

                                I have mailed in my amended tax return twice they say they do not have my information, its been over 5 months what’s going on. I’m wondering if this has anything to do with the news I seen on TV about the IRS stealing money?

                                Kaci

                                  Refund accepted June 4th…how long until status change (from accepted to approved) on wmr?

                                  in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112332
                                  bjhc

                                    Mine finally changed this morning also… Said we recieved your tax return and it is being processed.. how long after that have y’all gotten.your refunds

                                    in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112331
                                    zach

                                      Wmr now has all three bars, says refund sent. I know people say wmr is usually a few days behind so I’m hoping it was sent earlier this week..

                                      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112330
                                      drew

                                        Well wmr changed to my refund is being processed now. Not sure exactly what that means. Called and got my 30 day referral on the 18th. Hopefully its a sign they are releasing my refund again.

                                        in reply to: Injured Spouse #4112326
                                        Rebecca

                                          Finally decided to call the IRS and see if I could get any update on our refund status. I spoke with a very pleasant woman and she told me because I’m still in the 11 week window that I still have a few weeks to have it be processed. She told me my 11 week mark is the first week of July.

                                          Efiled accepted 4/13
                                          IS form 4/16

                                          So from what the lady said I have to wait 11 weeks from the date the IS form was received. So I’m hoping to see a refund around July 2nd or maybe earlier (crossing fingers!!!)
                                          I hope this helps anyone. i don’t remember my refund taking this long in previous years.

                                          I also asked if the transcript hack would affect the time I get my refund and she said because she seen only one return with my social, it won’t be effected. So I’m assuming if you were affected by the hack, your refund might be delayed?

                                          Now I just have to wait patiently.

                                          in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112325
                                          bjgc

                                            As anyone.had any.change??? Called monday told mme I should receive in 2weeks but.didnt give specific date.

                                            in reply to: injured spouse efiled 4/14 #4112306
                                            Rebecca

                                              Lucky! I also e filed our taxes with an IS form the same day as you and haven’t heard anything back on ours. Your post gives me hope that ours will be dd soon. Did you opt for a check or a dd into your bank account?

                                              Terri

                                                I HAVE ASSISTED SEVERAL PEOPLE WITH TAXES THEY HAVE BEEN STUCK IN LIMBO FOR MONTHS, THEY ALL OWED OFFSETS, I JUST CHECKED THE OFFSET LINE AND 4 OUT OF 5 PEOPLES OFFSETS WERE PAID AS OF 6/5, SO I AM ASSUMING THE IRS IS FINALLY STARTING TO PUSH TAX RETURNS OUT, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THERE IS A BIG UPDATE SOON. 3 PEOPLE FILLED 1/22 2 PEOPLE FILLED 4/01. HOPE THIS HELPS!!

                                                in reply to: filed is #4112304
                                                still waiting 0627

                                                  Not may march

                                                  in reply to: Injured Spouse #4112303
                                                  still waiting 0627

                                                    Hello friends
                                                    So my hub and I filed out taxes back in may and got a notice that they were taking our refund for back cs. So we went back in filed an is got a notice from IRS saying it was accepted andexpect a check w/in 3-4 weeks back on April 3. Clearly we have officially hit the 8 week mark and still nothing. Can’t get thru to the IRS to talk to an agent nothing is showing with the tresurey. Can’t access online transcripts the newest one I have says as of may 4 802 w2 with holding. I have been told by the ppl that did my taxes will take 8 weeks here we are 8 weeks and nothing any advice? Anyone in the same boat anything. We are despertly waiting our son turns 1 on the 27 of this month and we were hoping to use the money to pay for his party. So very frustrated!

                                                    in reply to: ANY State Returns? #4112302
                                                    NixMac

                                                      Illinois: postmarked paper return on April 15th. Anyone who did same receive Illinois refund yet?

                                                      in reply to: Bart's Thoughts #4112301
                                                      shell

                                                        Ok can anyone help me please!!!!!! Bank rejected refund 2/17/15 received notice in mail stating a paper check will be mailed to me. My 10 wk waiting period ended 5/29/15 called irs said texes still frozen just put in a refreel.Today I’m not understanding this at all!!! 11 wks later I have gotton nowhere with the irs!!!! How long after the refreel will I get my check!!!!

                                                        in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112280
                                                        aly

                                                          Wednesday’s mail has come and gone and still no check. Don’t have the time or patience to call irs today.

                                                          lostinlimbo

                                                            Sadly to inform you all the IRS was hacked over a month ago and they just released it to the media and to us waiting tax payers. This now is giving them longer delays and processing
                                                            it has been 14 weeks since I filed and was accepted, no notice no letters only 1 update to my transcript since 2/25/2015 that was a minor date change to $0 additional taxes/
                                                            assessment. I called, written faxes and letters and to no avail I havent been given any answers to what is going on. I also requested an advocate in April since I was not able to access my transcripts ( not knowing at the time IRS was hacked) NOTHING!!!! no calls no letters sad sad sad and to think I worked for them for 19 years.

                                                            lostinlimbo

                                                              Hello everyone, I too filed and accepted 2/25/15. Still Processing, no letters no notice I even requested an advocate in April have heard NOTHING! I was also able to retrieve my transcripts they never updated until 1 week ago with only a minor date change to additonal tax assest. Now I can not get my transcripts online due to theft! with all this nonsense, I called several times, once to leave a long message for the advocates office ( no reply either) second time I called toll free and was given such BS then the guy hung up on me- claims he touched the wrong button and needed to transfer me to someone who knew the system better! , I called back sadly waited 45 min.only to be told the advocates office had my return and it is up to them to release the funds. I worked for them for over 19 years have not had any issues ever, it has been 6 years since I worked there and now I have delays. No one can help and no one knows anything.

                                                              in reply to: Mississippi #4112272
                                                              EmGMO662

                                                                Has anyone received their refund for 2014 or are they still waiting? I called all the numbers – still under review – filed on the 6 of Feb!! Any ideas?

                                                                dellenaA

                                                                  I have been under review its been 60 days i did the id verification and now im back to my taxes are being processed.like how long until i get my tax return. Let me remind you i filed January 20. Someone please tell me something Heeeeellp

                                                                  in reply to: Pissed got a 4464c letter #4112225
                                                                  Arnold G

                                                                    wow filed taxact march 1,2015 .. got letter march 17.
                                                                    called them and verified.
                                                                    waited waited.. and got letter to keep waiting on april 28

                                                                    now its june 2 and NOTHING.. they hired retards again ?

                                                                    in reply to: Letter from IRS about form 1095-a #4112184
                                                                    Bruno bermudez

                                                                      I need all you guys help im trying to obtain a home loan and they meed my 2014 tramscripts today i fax my 1095A and 8962 form to this fax #559–456-7233. Can you please advise me if i should mail it as well and provide me with an address??? Or any other fax where i should send it?
                                                                      By the way i sent the forms with a fax cover amd my name and social on too of each lage
                                                                      Please advise guys. My family amd I need a home asap
                                                                      Thhanks

                                                                      Bryan

                                                                        My taxes were accepted 2/19/2015 got a letter in the mail 3 weeks later saying they were reviewing my taxes should be finished around 5/7/2015. 5/14/15 I call and they say they will send a letter letting them know I’ve been waiting too long. 5/16/15 I get a DDD of 5/25/15. That day comes no refund. I check where’s my refund and now it says my taxes have been delayed and gives me reference number 1121. I call the extension given and they have no clue about anything when I call. It is now 6/1/2015 still no refund and no clue what’s going on.

                                                                        in reply to: Taxpayer Advocate (TA) #4112148
                                                                        Serina

                                                                          I Verified 0n 3/5/15. Waited another 12 weeks and nothing, so gotta a tax adv that second week after i talk to the IRS, My tax adv call and said they are still checking my refund. So she said we should know something 6/3/15. which is in too days. Me while rent is behind, Had to park my truck and my electric bill is outta this world.i just hope it good news when she contact me. Im tired of waiting for my funds that i worked for. We had a big family, So this waiting game is killing me. I need to buy my children clothes and things, AND PAY THE RENT SO WE WONT BE OUT IN THE STREET.feeling frustrated

                                                                          in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112147
                                                                          Zach

                                                                            Still nothing on mine.
                                                                            Received 30 day referral on May 13th.
                                                                            WMR has not updated at all, no idea about transcripts since the IRS has now shut down online transcripts due to their inability to protect citizen’s information (they are reaching amazing and astounding levels of incompetence).
                                                                            This is one institution that needs to be demolished and started over!

                                                                            in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112141
                                                                            bjgc

                                                                              I have called and called! !! Last thing I was told is they were doing a 30 day referal on may 15!! Still no change and still no check!!!

                                                                              in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112115
                                                                              aly

                                                                                Mine had the delayed message for months and changed about a week ago.

                                                                                in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112114
                                                                                aly

                                                                                  @bjgc
                                                                                  Mine says we have received your taxes and are processing them. Have you called the irs recently?

                                                                                  in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112051
                                                                                  bjgc

                                                                                    Does wmr say there is a delaying process your tax return and your expected refund Date may have changed?? Mine has said this since Feb 14

                                                                                    in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112049
                                                                                    aly

                                                                                      @Brian.
                                                                                      That’s great news. It looks like most of us who received the cp53a are finally getting checks. Hoping to see mine by Wednesday. I can’t wait to be done stalking the mailman. Lol. Wmr still says processing so I guess that won’t change at all. Still waiting on state but Michigan always takes forever to send check so that will get here when it gets it. Lol.

                                                                                      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112024
                                                                                      Brian

                                                                                        Update…got my check today after it being mailed out 5/27…so 3 days total. Not bad after waiting 3 months.

                                                                                        stacy

                                                                                          I teied to Change my bank account at sbtpg an when I login to my account it doesn’t give me the option to change my info but it says in the website faq section they have a link for this which I cant find anywhere does anyone know how to find this link

                                                                                          in reply to: California return #4112002
                                                                                          Matthew Globe

                                                                                            I filed a paper return, accepted 2/5/15. Refund authorized 5/8/15. As of 5/29, no refund received.

                                                                                            in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112001
                                                                                            Brian

                                                                                              @bjgc

                                                                                              Lol see my comment below I typed your name into the box by mistake.

                                                                                              in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4112000
                                                                                              @bjgc

                                                                                                Nah I don’t think so. When I called it was the 10th week and the rep told me that the week before (which was May 5th), it was adjusted to be released and to give 2-4 weeks to process and mail out. If I didn’t get anything by the 5th to call them back.

                                                                                                I called Wednesday and they said the check had been mailed out, and yesterday I called the Treasury office in Philly (services the NYC area) that actually prints and cuts the check and mails it out. They also confirmed it was sent out (not just processed and cut but actually mailed out) on the 27th. Now I’m just waiting either today or tomorrow for it, since first class mail takes anywhere from 1-3 days.

                                                                                                Linn

                                                                                                  There is hope! My refund took over 90 days due to identity theft. I tried to file on H&R Block and someone fraudulently filed a tax return with my social security. In mid-Feb, my paper return was received and I confirmed my identity with the IRS. My status on the app was received to “your refund is still be processed” for the all of March, April, and until 5/23. On 5/23, I was received a DD and officially received my refund on 5/28. Patience is the key especially if you were a victim of identity theft. Good luck, Everyone!

                                                                                                  in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111998
                                                                                                  bjgc

                                                                                                    Is the referral what they did for you

                                                                                                    in reply to: ANY State Returns? #4111997
                                                                                                    W.S.

                                                                                                      Filed April 15th. Federal refund arrived within two weeks. Still waiting on MO refund. I’m think it now best to decrease the amount of state witholding being as they don’t really want to give citizens the money owed to them.

                                                                                                      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111996
                                                                                                      Brian

                                                                                                        @bjgc

                                                                                                        WMR still says your refund has been received and is being processed. WMR is always late on updating itself, usually a few days behind. But I’m glad I got confirmation from the check disbursement center that it was in fact mailed out Wednesday. Keep calling, I read somewhere here (I think it was BartD from Bart’s thoughts) that the referral wasn’t really anything that it’s just something to get you off the phone.

                                                                                                        in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111995
                                                                                                        bjgc

                                                                                                          @brian

                                                                                                          What does wmr say for you???

                                                                                                          in reply to: Tax Topic 152 #4111994
                                                                                                          Joeshmo

                                                                                                            To heck with the irs

                                                                                                            in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111993
                                                                                                            Brian

                                                                                                              Well, I called the treasury today in Philly (because I live in NYC) and they confirmed what the agent said yesterday, that my check was mailed out yesterday!

                                                                                                              in reply to: California return #4111992
                                                                                                              ruben arevalo

                                                                                                                i filed on march 16,2015 and not yet received my state refund. i received my ferderal refund but not my state. how much longer until i receive it??

                                                                                                                in reply to: California return #4111991
                                                                                                                ruben arevalo

                                                                                                                  i filed on march 16,2015 and have not yet received my state refund . i received my federal refund but not my state. how long does it take????

                                                                                                                  Trishalla Bell
                                                                                                                    @trishalla

                                                                                                                    Call its been past the 21 days of processing you may need to self id happened to me too…..but i did get my refund…after i identified it was released a week ago later

                                                                                                                    Tejeb

                                                                                                                      Add another to the pile.

                                                                                                                      We filed using Turbotax mid march 2015 and as of today we are still getting the “your return is still being processed”.

                                                                                                                      What is going on at the IRS???

                                                                                                                      Hey MSM here is a news investigation for you to do.

                                                                                                                      in reply to: WoodForest Bank #4111979
                                                                                                                      djohnson

                                                                                                                        Wood forest bank is holding my direct deposit until noon. This is unacceptable. I have never banked with a company that holds my direct deposit past midnight. At first they started coming in around 4 a.m. then it went to 6- 8 a.m. then it went to 10 and then it quickly changed over to noon. I wrote them an email stating that this was unacceptable and that I need my money deposited by the time I wake up in the morning. They adjusted it to where the deposit went in at midnight again. Now, 6 months later, they are back to arriving at noon. I have things to do, I have bills to pay, I have errands to run, & I do not have time for my deposits to be held until noon when everyone else gets their deposits at midnight who banks elsewhere. I will be looking for another bank if they cannot find a permanent solution to this.

                                                                                                                        donna rangel

                                                                                                                          We filed my sons taxes 3/1/15, received a DdD of 3/9//15…then changed to the 1121 status. Ugh! On March 25, received letter directing us to everify, which he did immediately. The website said it would take 6 wks to complete. Then May 21 called IrS, waited 40 min to talk to an agent, who told us that his return went to “second verification” april 20 and it usually takes 8 wks from that date, so hopefully mid-June?

                                                                                                                          Has ANYONE been seeing refunds yet? This is crazy!

                                                                                                                          in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111969
                                                                                                                          drew

                                                                                                                            Anyone know about the online transcript service? Is it down for a short while or an extended period of time?

                                                                                                                            in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111968
                                                                                                                            drew

                                                                                                                              @brian

                                                                                                                              Yeah its stupid. I followed the exact steps that the card issuer said to do to be added to the account.

                                                                                                                              in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111967
                                                                                                                              Brian

                                                                                                                                @drew

                                                                                                                                Yeah that ID verify was just a separate issue with your bank. I’d be pissed at them if they never added me to the account correctly.

                                                                                                                                The IRS won’t direct deposit a second time. This time they’ll send a paper check to the address on file. If you called a week ago and a week ago is when they gave you the referral, give it 2-3 more weeks. I didn’t see movement until the middle of the 3rd week.

                                                                                                                                It was funny that you say that because I also received my State return (a whole 24 dollars at that) and my federal was rejected because something didn’t match on the account. Which begs the question, why are you going to accept my state return but reject my federal? But whatever, that’s no longer here nor there.

                                                                                                                                in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111966
                                                                                                                                drew

                                                                                                                                  @brian
                                                                                                                                  Well I called like a week ago so it hasnt been that long. The guy said it was sent back to the irs with a note saying name not on account. But I actually was on the account it was direct deposited to, had a card and everything. But a few weeks back I got an email from the card issuer saying that I wasnt added to the account correctly and to email or fax a picture of my photo id and recent utility bill. I did so

                                                                                                                                  in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111965
                                                                                                                                  Brian

                                                                                                                                    @drew

                                                                                                                                    Essentially, yes. The 30 day referral is basically a notice to the dept. researching your account to expedite the release of your refund. They have 30 days to release your funds and send you a check or send you a notice explaining why they need to further research your account.

                                                                                                                                    More times than not though, on the 3rd to 4th week of the referral people usually receive their refund. I’m coming up on my 4th week and it looks like paper checks are all mailed out this Friday. I would call the treasury this friday and see if a paper check was sent to you. If not, call the IRS back.

                                                                                                                                    in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111964
                                                                                                                                    drew

                                                                                                                                      Are all referrals the same? Like when I called after the 10 weeks on my cp53a notice passed. The guy said he was writing or putting in a referral to the department that was “researching” my account? Was it a referral to release my funds or?

                                                                                                                                      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111963
                                                                                                                                      Brian

                                                                                                                                        @Aly

                                                                                                                                        That’s great news! It’s about time! Were you able to see your transcripts at all when it updated? I just wanted to see if you had gotten the same cycle date as me and the 290 and 846 code as well so I can get a better idea of where @bjgc stands. For whatever reason we can’t access transcripts online anymore, it can only be mailed. I’m assuming that the release date for all the paper checks is Friday, when they all get mailed out. I think you can call the treasury Friday to make sure that a check was mailed out.

                                                                                                                                        @bjgc

                                                                                                                                        Did you get the 846 Refund Issue code too though? or was it just the 290 code? I don’t think it will be released unless you have that 846 code.

                                                                                                                                        bjgc

                                                                                                                                          Has anyone received their refund yet

                                                                                                                                          in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111961
                                                                                                                                          aly

                                                                                                                                            @Brian
                                                                                                                                            Just got off the phone with irs after trying to get thru multiple times. Check is going to be sent Friday!!! Wmr still says processing but the rep said Friday is my lucky day! Sooooo happy!!!!

                                                                                                                                            mari

                                                                                                                                              My son filed on March 8,accepted same day. Two weeks went by, &bar ans everything was gone.It said still processing, like everyone on this page… A week later got a letter saying it was being held to investigate for accuracy, He was randomly selected. That 60days he would have his refund… still no refund …

                                                                                                                                              in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111949
                                                                                                                                              bjgc

                                                                                                                                                He reason I asked my 290 code had a cycle code that was supposed to be 2 Fridays ago and still nothing… now cannot even see transcript

                                                                                                                                                Debra Comstock

                                                                                                                                                  I e filed on March 30th, my return was accepted on the same day, and as of today I still get the “your return is still being processed”. I end up in voice mail jail if I try to call the IRS. I find it extremely interesting that my husband and I never get a refund and this year we will. I’ve already received my state refund. I live in Hawaii and they are really backlogged with their refunds. I am wondering what’s the holdup?

                                                                                                                                                  in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111947
                                                                                                                                                  Brian

                                                                                                                                                    290 Additional Tax Asses. 20152002 6/8/2015
                                                                                                                                                    846 Refund Issued 6/8/2015

                                                                                                                                                    That’s what it read. Correct me if I’m wrong but the cycle codes only apply to refund dates.

                                                                                                                                                    in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111946
                                                                                                                                                    bjgc

                                                                                                                                                      What had the cycle code the 290 code or the 846

                                                                                                                                                      in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111945
                                                                                                                                                      Brian

                                                                                                                                                        @aly

                                                                                                                                                        Yeah that should be a good sign – mine changed to that a day after my transcripts updated. Unfortunately you can’t get your transcripts online anymore, so all we have to go on is the WMR.

                                                                                                                                                        Hopefully yours will roll out Friday like mine is supposed to – had a cycle date of 20152002 which is this Friday before the transcripts became unavailable. Here’s to the light at the end of the tunnel!

                                                                                                                                                        @bjgc

                                                                                                                                                        Mines should be in by 6/2 or 6/3 so I’ll let you know once I receive it.

                                                                                                                                                        in reply to: cp53a dated 3/2/15 #4111944
                                                                                                                                                        aly

                                                                                                                                                          My wording changed to we have your received your taxes and are processing them. Hoping that’s a good sign.

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