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Filed and accepted 2/19. DDD 2/26. Also, there were many filers between 2/15 and 2/18 who already got their refunds, and the vast majority of those who also post here are long gone and won’t be heard from until next year.
I believe those of you still waiting for your refunds are a minority. May God prosper you swiftly.
Over It, my supposition is that 3/22 on your 2019 is for Look Back. The EIP3 check resulted in an “As of” date of 3/29.
You know your return has been processed when you see a cycle code.
Same thing here! Was supposed to receive 8400, but only got 4200. Another goof up from our ignorant, outdated IRS. Anybody else notice the IRS works flawlessly when they take your money?? But when they screw up, they don’t have a care in the world!
The IRS doesn’t take your withholdings. Your employer deducts it and sends it in.
Many are complaining about how the IRS “managed” during this last 13 months since the powers-that-be declared that we’re in a pandemic, but the SSA is probably even worse. They probably haven’t updated the national database that would allow the IRS to verify the existence of those people. I’m sure they’ll all get caught up and synchronized, eventually; it’s just a question of how long it will be.
Supposedly, the IRS will send the balance of the third EIP due to you after they process your 2020 return — and it won’t wait until next year.
We’ll see if it works out that way; there have been some things that the IRS has promised, but then they couldn’t make it work and they default to: “Claim it on your next year’s tax return.”
@thicks
Yes I have both of those codes. I also haven’t received my stimulus yet, do you think that has some thing to do with it?The 570 is a freeze and 971 indicates communication sent. Check out some of the other threads on those topics, along with those mentioning Recovery Rebate and “line 30.” I don’t know about the stimulus part; they should go off 2019.
@kyo: congrats! May God grant us the wisdom to spend/save it wisely and to prosper such that we don’t need to wait for refunds/stimulus payments from the government anymore.
@kyo: You made me look! I had checked my account (PNC Bank) at 11:36 p.m., and the deposit wasn’t there. Within a half hour the deposit landed (checked at 12:10 a.m. EDT).
My cycle code is 20210801. Can you tell me what that is?
Cory, 20210801 means processed on Friday, Feb. 19.
Did you get your DD? On Thurs., 2/25? Or do you have codes like 570 and/or 971 on your transcript?
My cycle date is also 20211005 when can I expect my refund?
That cycle code translates to processing on Thursday, March 11. Generally, it’s 6 days from updating the IMF (IRS Master File) to DD. If you have TC 846, you would probably have a DDD of 3/17.
Pppp, according to what I’ve read, they won’t have to wait that long, but the IRS will automatically send the difference after processing the 2020 return.
Don’t sweat the As of date. It’s future-dated, anyway. But it tells you nothing about your processing or refund date.
The negative number means the IRS owes you that. If the balance were positive, that would be the amount you owe.
Im sorry, but with the tax season starting late this year (February 22, 2021), I thought that the PATH ACT wasn’t in effect at all. Usually tax season started in the last week of January, and the PATH would hold up filers claiming CTC and EITC until February 15th. How did this work this year? *I’m just curious*
I could see no evidence of a delay, at all. I believe I read posts from several filers w/ EITC and/or ACTC stating they got DD 3/22. I filed 2/19 w/ EIC and got DD 2/26.
@Erica, the IRS has said that they will make up the difference when they process 2020 returns.
Mary, I’m pretty sure the IRS will send you the difference once they process your 2020 return.
Anthony (and all), I’m sorry, but that is incorrect. The As of date refers to no such thing.
The As of date appears to be for internal IRS accounting. Whenever they look at your account, they update the As of date to show that X amount of interest and penalties have accrued to that point. The As of date is for a future date three or four Mondays away..
If the IRS opens and views your account today, you’ll see an As of date of 4/5/2021 on your transcripts tomorrow (in all likelihood).
I don’t think there will be an update tonight. Friday (01) processing updates on transcripts on Saturdays and WMR on Sundays. The next processing day is 02: Mondays. They would update on transcripts on Tuesdays and WMR on Wednesdays.
The As of date has nothing to do with your refund. If you don’t see a cycle code, your return hasn’t been processed at all. Transaction code (TC) 846 is the one that will tell you your DDD.
@Joshua, I really think it will be Wednesday (in the wee hours of the morning, or late Tuesday night).
The companies are advancing the money based on the IRS’s promise that it’s coming. The banks aren’t holding it, because they haven’t gotten it yet, and their basic business model doesn’t call for offering interest-free two-day loans.
@Drew: No. If the IRS flags your return for IDV — meaning they suspect fraudulent activity — they don’t look at your return at all. Only after you pass IDV will they begin to examine any of the information on your return.
Call the phone number that’s on the letter 5071. When you pass, they’ll immediately release your return for processing. If you do it online, there may be more of a delay. Plus you have to jump through hoops to set up the account.
Yes, the next letter will come with a code to allow you to complete your account. But I still recommend calling to verify.
@taiwo: Tai, I personally can’t recall seeing anyone who passed IDV have another problem that made them wait more than two or three weeks afterward for their refund, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t anyone who’s experienced that.
There are older threads that contain helpful information on this topic: 5071c, identity verification.
You’ll need a code from the letter, personal information, and information from your 2020 and 2019 returns/w2s.
To get either of the first two stimulus payments, you have to claim the amount as a recovery rebate credit on your 2020 tax return.
The third stimulus and your 2020 refund are separate.
How is the actual date of the direct deposit “late”?
We’ll get it Wednesday — in four days. Surely we can be patient until then, right?
I don’t think they prioritized people whose most recent return is for 2019. I got my 2020 refund 2/26, and my wife’s stimulus and mine are both headed into my account 3/17. We just got married in 2020, and she got both of her 2020 EIPs as a non-filing SSDI recipient.
@brayb are you sure about not having 152 and still processing means I will receive a letter?? I was accepted on 2/13 and have not received a letter. i got the still processing refund provided when available message a week ago early Saturday morning.
It sounds like a 5071C (IDV) is a distinct possibility.
@taiwo: Tai, after passing IDV, you get resequenced (put back in line as if you newly filed). You can reasonably expect a DDD by 3/24 (but it’s not guaranteed).
I think they may not have gotten to you as of Thursday, because an As of date of 3/22 translates to activity around 3/4 or 2/22. The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 was signed into law 3/11.
The IRS is still working on mailed paper returns for the 2019 filing year. She can still file 2020, though, I’m sure. It might help to use a tax preparer, like H&R Block or Jackson Hewitt.
The 846 code is “Refund issued.” You can use other codes, particularly 570 and 971, to research why your refund may be delayed.
For those whose current account “As of” date changed back, check your 2019 return record; I suspect you’ll see an As of date of 3/29/21 on that.
@ImpatientPather: Hopefully when they process your 2020 return, they’ll also send you your $2800.
Check your 2019 return; I think you’ll see 3/29/21 there.
I think the IRS has probably sent most of the direct deposits as of yesterday, for DD on Wed. 3/17. If they haven’t already processed your 2020 return, then you should check Netspend. But if the amount should be greater, based on your 2020 filing, they’re supposedly obligated to make up the difference after they process your return.
@Shameka Johnson: The “As of” date is a note for the IRS keep track of the accrual of interest and penalties on your account. Anytime they look at your account, for whatever reason (not necessarily to process a return), they update that date — and it appears to be future dated for the third or fourth Monday after the actual date of the action.
(And for my haters, this is deduction, not firsthand knowledge, but it has borne out.)
Yes, I believe you should get your refund the same way as your 2020 refund — unless you used a tax preparer and paid fees out of your refund. That route caused many people issues last year.
@Okiebreed: God has blessed me. I got married since last year (hadn’t even met her this time last year). I got my 2020 refund in just 7 days this year and am now expecting the EIP3 in five days. How’s it with you?
For those of you seeing your As of date changing to 3/29 and then back to something earlier, why don’t you trying looking at your 2019’s As of date? My guess is that if your 2020 return hasn’t been processed so that the IRS used your 2019 return to determine your EIP3, you should see an As of date of Mar. 29, 2021 on your 2019 transcript.
@RocketGirl. No, that’s not connected to your DDD. When your refund is approved, your transcript will update with “846 Refund issued [mm-dd-yyyy].”
If your tax return has been processed, it will go to that account. If not, then it will go to the account listed on your prior return.
@Amanda: Yes, that’s correct. If you received all that you qualified for during the first two payments, then line 30 should say, “$0.”
Your filing status, AGI, and number of dependents will be taken from either your 2019 or 2020 return. If your 2020 return is already filed and processed when the IRS is ready to send your payment, your stimulus check will be based on information from your 2020 return. If your 2020 return isn’t filed and processed at that point, the IRS will use your 2019 return. If your 2020 return is filed and/or processed after the IRS sends you a stimulus check, but before July 15, 2021 (or September 1 if the April 15 filing deadline is pushed back), the IRS will send you a second payment for the difference between what your payment should have been if based on your 2020 return and the payment actually sent based on your 2019 return.
https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/602396/when-will-your-third-stimulus-check-arrive
Your filing status, AGI, and number of dependents will be taken from either your 2019 or 2020 return. If your 2020 return is already filed and processed when the IRS is ready to send your payment, your stimulus check will be based on information from your 2020 return. If your 2020 return isn’t filed and processed at that point, the IRS will use your 2019 return. If your 2020 return is filed and/or processed after the IRS sends you a stimulus check, but before July 15, 2021 (or September 1 if the April 15 filing deadline is pushed back), the IRS will send you a second payment for the difference between what your payment should have been if based on your 2020 return and the payment actually sent based on your 2019 return.
https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/602396/when-will-your-third-stimulus-check-arrive
Well my as of date changed from 2/22/21 to 3/29/21 like some other people did. I have no idea what that means and how can there be a future ‘as of date’?
All As of dates are future dates. Every. Single. One. Apparently, every time the IRS updates the As of date to the third or fourth Monday following.
Actually, Mommajess33, I’ve read that Biden signed it into law earlier today.
@brayb: JLB1270 and Drew, when I had to IDV last year, I had the “still being processed” message — searching for the text of the WMR message is how I found this website in late February, 2020. A couple of days after I called and passed the IDV “test,” WMR for me updated to, “We have received your return and it is being processed.” After that, it was just a wait until I got the DDD on WMR, which took about a week. Apparently, after you IDV, you’re resequenced (moved to the next available space at the back of the line).
Some Chimers might get theirs this weekend, but I think most won’t see money in the bank until 3/17, 3/18 or 3/19. If the IRS updated the Master File TODAY, then Wednesday (3/17) would be the DDD. If the IMF is updated tomorrow, then 3/18. If Monday, then (Friday) 3/19.
The “As of” date IS NOT — I repeat, IS NOT — related in any way to when the IRS expects to finish processing your return.
The line is referring to the accrual of interest and penalties. Whenever the IRS looks at an account — for whatever reason, even if it’s years after the return was filed — it will update that “As of” date.
The IRS’s method of indicating when they process your return is with the cycle code. That’s the ONLY thing that tells you when it was processed — NOT the “processing date,” which is postdated.
@Tiffany, then the IRS will use the routing & account numbers you put in your filing.
Unless you’ve already seen a cycle code ending in 05 on your transcripts, I’m not sure any of us can know for sure that we’re “weekly” this year. Supposedly all PATH-affected filers are “weekly,” but I had the EIC (for the second consecutive year, and the third or fourth consecutive time filing) and was “daily” this year. (I haven’t seen my transcripts, but based on my DDD, I’m confident my cycle code ends 02.)
Your filing status, AGI, and number of dependents will be taken from either your 2019 or 2020 return. If your 2020 return is already filed and processed when the IRS is ready to send your payment, your stimulus check will be based on information from your 2020 return. If your 2020 return isn’t filed and processed at that point, the IRS will use your 2019 return. If your 2020 return is filed and/or processed after the IRS sends you a stimulus check, but before July 15, 2021 (or September 1 if the April 15 filing deadline is pushed back), the IRS will send you a second payment for the difference between what your payment should have been if based on your 2020 return and the payment actually sent based on your 2019 return.
https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/602396/when-will-your-third-stimulus-check-arrive
There appears to be evidence among posters here that the IRS will fix it themselves.
https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/602396/when-will-your-third-stimulus-check-arrive
Your filing status, AGI, and number of dependents will be taken from either your 2019 or 2020 return. If your 2020 return is already filed and processed when the IRS is ready to send your payment, your stimulus check will be based on information from your 2020 return. If your 2020 return isn’t filed and processed at that point, the IRS will use your 2019 return. If your 2020 return is filed and/or processed after the IRS sends you a stimulus check, but before July 15, 2021 (or September 1 if the April 15 filing deadline is pushed back), the IRS will send you a second payment for the difference between what your payment should have been if based on your 2020 return and the payment actually sent based on your 2019 return.
so my federal refund is on hold for id verification, im currently waiting for the letter at the moment, i received my state refund though, but anyways would that affect my 3rd stimulus coming? The 1,400$ would they hold it as well?
Until they process your 2020 return, they’ll use your 2019 return. They might send the stimulus prior to processing your 2020 return.
The irs started accepting returns on the 12, but the pathers were held until the 22nd.
Not everyone affected by the PATH Act was held — and certainly not to the 22nd. I filed 2/19 and got my refund 2/26, and there were others on here affected by PATH who filed before me and got their refund before the 22nd.
Wes, the “bars” are on WMR (the IRS Get Refund Status tool). 1 bar is for “Return received”; 2 bars is for “Refund approved”; 3 bars is for “Refund sent.” However, those with “…still being processed…” don’t have those bars (they “lose” them).
It’s more of a horizontal bar graph with three sections.
My understanding, from reading other people’s posts, is that the IRS will compare your line 30 with their records and will adjust your refund amount accordingly. I seriously doubt you’ll have to pay anything back. It may delay sending of your refund by a couple of weeks.
No. The As of date on your transcript does not provide any pertinent information regarding your refund. If your transcripts are N/A, then they haven’t processed your return yet. When they do process it, you’ll see a cycle code, and when they approve your refund, you’ll see TC (transaction code) “846 Refund issued [date].”
I believe “mass updates” are on Fridays (on transcripts, covering processing activity of Thursdays [05]). The other four days are not “mass” updates.
@Kittykat. When they go to disburse the stimulus, the IRS will use the most recent filing — 2020 or 2019. If they haven’t PROCESSED 2020, then they’ll use 2019 (if it exists).
Carlos, you might have caught me misinformed about the new stimulus affecting 2020 unemployment, but don’t embarrass yourself trying to refute my information about the As of and processing dates. That info is golden. Just because you don’t understand how the IRS does it doesn’t disprove my observations.
See for yourself. Look at your transcripts. If the IRS gives you an 846 date of 3-10-2021, see if your As of date isn’t 3/22 or 3/29 and your “processing date” isn’t 3/22.
State returns and federal returns have NO connection to one another.
Until the IRS processes your return, it will not register the new bank account. If they fulfill the third stimulus before processing your return, then they will use your 2019 return. If that account has been closed, the bank will return it and the IRS will **probably** cut a check and send it to the address on your 2019 return.
I don’t think the stimulus will be included with refunds. I seriously doubt they system is set up to work that way.
People don’t understand the IRS As of and processing dates. They move the date into the future (postdate) it. If they open the account to look at it (maybe process it, maybe just look at the AGI) on 3/11, then the account will register an As of date of 3/29 (or maybe even 4/5). If they process it on 3/11 and give a DDD, then the transcript will say something like:
150 Tax return filed 20211005 03-29-2021
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846 Refund issued 03-17-2021.That’s a common message that most people get. It doesn’t have any bearing on the amount or timing of a refund.
The only significance of the “As of” date, to the taxpayer/filer, is that about 18 days prior to that date was the latest time the IRS opened or looked at the account, in any fashion (but not necessarily to process a return).
@Jay, I’m guessing you’ll qualify for this third payment, but they won’t likely give you the recovery rebate.
They’re trained to say that it takes up to 9 weeks (and the 5071C letter says that, also), but in all likelihood you’ll get your refund within 2-3 weeks after successfully IDV’ing, as long as they don’t find any other problems with your return.
(They don’t actually open or look at the return at all, if it gets flagged for IDV until after passing.)