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Antorix said:
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January 28, 2012 11:36 AM Quote This Flag Private Message
Kelly spoke to an actual IRS Investigator yesterday. Here are copies of the posts taken from the I Got My Refund thread.
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(1 hours ago) kelly said:
I am a 31ster been that way sice the 19th. Called yesterday and spoke with an irs rep and said all 31sts will get theirs on or before feb 1. Every date that is given on wmr is on purpose it coinsides with a dd date. So if you have a 31st date you will have it no later thaat feb 1 and that is that last date you should have it even if you had $ taken out for prep fees. So I would see it on Tues he said since my bank does not hold money. My wmr status says they cant find my info now but its not because im checking too much because I havent checked since yesterday at 11 am. Its just a glitch dont worry about wmr its not up to date or accurate is what I was told I hope this hels 31sters. Good luck59 minutes ago) kelly said:
The over 4000 is not true because most people are getting back more than 5500 almost 42 percent is over that. Its the highest pecentage of all filers. So I know that is not correct. We are not the problem its the IRS new system its new and they have never used it for so many returns. It only checks for errors Audits only happen in at least a year after getting your refund. So if you did lie or make a math error in your favor it wont know it yet. THey are only looking for math error ss errors easy things so dont worry about an audit This will be straight by wed and things will got smoothly like they usually do we as usual as possible with the irs. Dont sweat it if you filed befor the 20 you will have it by wed. I am sure of this I had a long conversation yesterday with the irs agent my friend who works with the tax dept in va where i live gave me his name and number and he was very clear about what was going to happen.
48 minutes ago) kelly said:
@jason he said wmr is on the legacy system still and it does not update or give accurate dates all the time the 21st was given to a lot of people just to give them extra time and so they dont get overwhelmed with questions and calls stupid if you ask me because that would make me call a lot. but it will be there by wed he said they have a deadline to fix this and it is by feb 1 no matter what your wmr says.
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(within the last minute) kelly said:Here is all the info i have in one place. I am a 31ster have been since jan 19. I called the irs number shown in red above yesterday about 11 am and was told feb1 but I could not be sure the person I spoke to had real info since i was the one who gave it to them. So i called a friend at the va tax dept and she gave me the number a an IRS investigator in tenn. that she works with over fraud claims. He took my info and then said he would call me back he called me back around 2ish ans said that I would be getting it BY feb1 for sure probably before since that is the latest I should recieve it they always give a few days for error. He stated that all filers who filed befor jan 20 will have their refunds before or on feb1 for sure. FEB 1 is the date the irs has set for themselves to have all the so called early filers refunded. If you file after the 20th of jan you are good to go no problems it will go smoothly and in real time. He also stated that the wmr site is run of of the legacy system and does not update regualarly enough to keep up with MEF refund dd dates. If you recieve a feb21 or feb 7 doesnt mean you wont have it by feb1 it just means the system is trying to give themselves time to get the deposit to you before you start to call and freak out basically and the irs does not like to be wrong. So if you have filed before the 20th you will recieve your refund by FEB 1 for sure. Also all the tax department does when you file is check for math errors which if you used a tax prep service online or otherwise it would have caught that, ss numbers to match names and make sure no one else claimed that dependant. other than that it will go through. Later next year or even at the end of the year they will be checking w2 matches and different credits and forms to make sure they match if not you will recieve a letter.Now once you have been checked for errors it is then placed into the ACH so your money can be distributed to the banks. All money that goes from the irs goes to the ach then to the banks.
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(within the last minute) kelly said:If you have a card that your money is posting to it must go to that bank first they all have a bank then it will be avail to you. So once it is checked for errors it then goes to ach on the correct date. This info is correct and I stand behind it. He also said that if you filed before the 2oth they have already fixed the problem with the mef and are caught up. Your money is with the ach or on it way. ACH has to have 48 before it can post money to your account so if its not there on monday if will be on tues. This is for filers before the 20th the rest are on schedule no matter what wmr says.
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(within the last minute) kelly said:He said he was sure all filers before the 20th would have it before the first no matter what. The backlog has already been fixed. they are doing it in real time now. if you were to file today you would get a confirmation instantly unless there are errors. so the 7th doesnt mean anything except they dont want you to call before then. If they gave us all the same date can you imagine what would happen at the irs tax offices on that day if something did happen no within thier control ie computer hacking earthquake i dont know but you get my drift.
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(within the last minute) kelly said:Rushcard holders, No you wont get it the same day irs posts it to ach because irs gives ach a date to recieve by and they can release it before but usually dont so they can generate revenue from your money. Your employer does not put a date on it so that is why you get it same day.
Antorix said:Joined: Jan 27, 2012
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(within the last minute) kelly said:lovely no matter what you will have it on your card by feb1. that is the date you have to have it per the irs. They give ach direct instructions. so if you have a dd ach has it already. I dont know when they got it but they are in process of tranferring they have a max of 48 hours to get to YOU. even if its a spend card
ss4985 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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hi.. i have a couple of questions.. and if you have already answered them i m sorry. so we got our state yesterday so i know that everything is good,, but we filed on the 12th were excepted according to hr block on the 17th,and then when you ask the irs they say 18th, so i dont know what the difference is there. but when i go on wmr it has been saying we should receive by the 31st the latest, has been saying that since the 19th or 20th as well. so since the dd date hasnt changed that means the 31st or 2/1 the latest on my emerald card. i guess i am looking for some clearance on this and you seem to have the info a little better then most people. now if i can ask when you go on wmr what is the message that they give you on there.ours says we have received your return and it is being processed. and then gives a date of the 31st, and when you call the number it states the same thing, we were one of those that fell into the 25th date, so can you just explain it a little more thanxs.. i can give you my email address [email protected]
annabelle356 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 2:50 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
Ok so was supposed to get my refund yesterday now it says delayed till feb. 7th. Do you think I will get it before then?
kelly said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 2:51 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
who said you were to get your refund on friday
rothery said:Joined: Jan 27, 2012
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January 28, 2012 3:20 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
Antorix and KellyInteresting… so you claim that ALL returns accepted before 1/20 will receive DD NLT 2/1?
FreeFiler through HRB
Filing Date: 1/17/12 22:15 EST
Accepted Date: 1/18/12 14:53 EST
WMR Date: was 2/7/12 all the time;
DD Conf Date: 2/8/12
DD Rect Date: 2/8/12 01:30 ESTupdated 2/8/12 01:30 EST
Antorix said:
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January 28, 2012 3:32 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
(2 minutes ago) kelly said:its all speculation until you have your refund isnt it? I dont care if you keep yourself up at night worrying I was just given the info I was given. I do believe it I have looked as much as the next person to try and misprove all he said but I cant find anything. He had no reason to lie or spend close to 30 min of his time to talk to me so whatever believe what you want to. I am in the same boat with the rest of you i need my money too. I didnt call for you but for me and decided to share it. Take it how you want to but its sad to call someone a liar for no reason.
superman60681 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
KELLY IS RIGHT NO DISPROVEING IM HEARING THE SAME THINGS
cybernimf said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 4:12 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
Thank you both for this info. I called the IRS and was given a date of feb 3rd. I was accepted on the 17th and the wmr has said processing and by the 31st since. I hope you are right and will be here by the 1st! But, either way, at least it should be SOMETIME this next week. lol.
superman60681 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 4:28 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
They have changed deposits to daily including weekends verses prior years that was usually just Fridays :) cybernimf said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 4:33 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
Here is some info i got from another forum. A jackson Hewitt employee said they just got this info –“These issues and delays are issues are related directly to a new fraud detection and prevention filtration system holding more refunds than anticipated and more returns are being impacted then originally projected by IRS.
The IRS has worked to correct this error and so they now believe refund timing ,for all refunds,including ARs will be on the following schedule:
* Select returns were impacted on the very first day of processing on 1/17/2012.
* Refunds from that first day which were expected on 1/23/2012 may not have funded yet.
*Updated information indicates affected returns filed on:
* 1/17/2012 are expected to fund on 1/30/2012.
* 1/18/2012 are anticipated to fund on 1/30/2012.
* 1/19/2012 are anticipated to fund on 2/1/2012.
* 1/20/2012 are anticipated to fund on 1/2/2012.
* 1?21/2012 are anticipated to fund on 1/3/2012.”
angel02 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 4:37 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
the irs gave us a dd date yesterday of 2/3 but the wmr still says processing by 1/31 so does that mean we will get our refund by the 31st?
kevman2066 said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 5:43 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
Kelly not doubting yur info but a lot of rumors are spreading around. Wat percentage of yur info is accurate. i mean is yur info based on yurs or is this for everyone who filed before the 20th
motheroftheyear said:Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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January 28, 2012 5:46 PM Delete Quote This Flag Private Message
I have a question about “real time”. I e-filed and my return was accepted on 01/24 (@11 am if that really matters) and I was given a direct deposit date of February 1st by my tax preparer and according to the IRS’s refund cycle chart, which may be obsolete for all I know, it also indicates a February 1st date. After the initial 72 hours following my return being accepted, information finally appeared on the WMR site and indicated my return was “processing” and gave a “by 02/07” deposit date. So, my question is, if returns after the 20th are being handled/deposited in “real time”, the definition of that is what exactly? Is that the 02/07 date that was on WMR (the one day any information showed up at all…) or is the initial date of 02/01 that I received from tax preparers and the indicated date on the IRS refund cycle chart ? I’ve not worried or obsessively checked WMR like I have read that some people have been doing and until I read that 02/07 date, a week after I was expecting funds, is when I became worried. As I began to check on the cause of the sudden change in probable deposit dates, is when I began to read about these delays etc. which has apparently made a lot of people go into hysterics. 02/01 was fine with me because the urgency of these funds lies in my paying rent for my 2 yr old son and I. I don’t need my tax money any more or any less than anyone else but it felt A LOT better when I was ignorant to any delays and knew that my tax preparer’s and the IRS’s refund cycle chart date of 02/01 was the date I would receive my moola like I have every other year for the past 4 years… Bummer.
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I filed my return on 1/17/12 with Turbo Tax and direct deposit on Turbo Tax Visa card. Turbo Tax said i would recieve a email from University National Bank of Saint Paul,MN. IRS accepted my return 1/18/12. IRS estimates my direct deposit on 1/25/12. Wheres my Refund says they have recieved my return and its being processed and i should recieve my refund 1/27/12. I never recieved the email from University Bank and when i tried to look up the website Santa Barbara Bank would come up so i checked the refund status on Santa Barbara Bank and it said it said in BIG RED letters that they had sent me an email stating that the IRS had delays in processsing many returns and they were going to take another week and i should recieve my refund 2/1/12. I have yet to recieve any email from anyone. I looked on Wheres My Refund today and it says have recieved my refund and its being processed i should recieve it 2/7/12. I recieved the Turbo Tax card about 4-5 days after filing my return. I dont understand when will my refund be deposited on the Turbo Tax card?
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