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      3/19 10:55 PM  – 3/20 2:29 AM

      BartD 10:55 PM 03/19/13
       finally aloud on chat!
      Brittany Miller 10:55 PM 03/19/13
       :)
      mommy4585 10:55 PM 03/19/13
       :)
      Linda Gotkin 10:56 PM 03/19/13
       Just a quick question. Is there a connection between those that filed online themselves versus ones that filed in offices? No updates at all. IRS says still in error section of processing.
      dianat92301 10:56 PM 03/19/13
       : )
      mommy4585 10:56 PM 03/19/13
       What is the # for me to talk to someone? I cant find it
      BartD 10:56 PM 03/19/13
       no difference brb pizza is here
      fedup4883c 10:57 PM 03/19/13
       18008290582 ex 362
      mommy4585 10:57 PM 03/19/13
       thank you
      fedup4883c 10:57 PM 03/19/13
       they close in 3 min
      fedup4883c 10:57 PM 03/19/13
       np
      mommy4585 10:58 PM 03/19/13
       They are open till 7 here in denver
      mommy4585 10:58 PM 03/19/13
       the last time i called was 5 minutes till 7
      fedup4883c 10:59 PM 03/19/13
       lol just realized not everyone is est lol
      fedup4883c 10:59 PM 03/19/13
       sorry about that
      mommy4585 11:00 PM 03/19/13
       lol its ok
      BartD 11:01 PM 03/19/13
       back and eating at same time
      atom jim 11:01 PM 03/19/13
       I was only able to check wmr once today, I saw tax topic 152 and missing $ amount on the left this morning, but then after that I wasn?t able to check again today.
      I thought it was just me.
      mommy4585 11:02 PM 03/19/13
       I havent been able to get on at all today.....I didnt check it in the middle of the night so I wouldnt get locked out and tried when I got up and it wont let me in at all
      mommy4585 11:02 PM 03/19/13
       Im calling them now to see what they say
      Brittany Miller 11:03 PM 03/19/13
       I have been able to get in. Kinda wish I couldn't maybe I would get my hopes up for something.
      Kelli C 11:03 PM 03/19/13
       yes please let us know what the update is
      Linda Gotkin 11:03 PM 03/19/13
       i could check my three times today with no problem. of course there weren't any updates. :(
      BartD 11:03 PM 03/19/13
       if refund amount changed ucant login \ok back and eating at the
      Brittany Miller 11:03 PM 03/19/13
       Same Linda. :(
      mommy4585 11:04 PM 03/19/13
       They said that the wait is greater the 30 min and that if you didnt need there help right now to call back on Weds. or Thurs. lol Im not waiting to call till then
      Brittany Miller 11:04 PM 03/19/13
       someone on the other chat has been on hold for two hours.
      King Undeniable =) 11:04 PM 03/19/13
       My refund amount had been gone for a week now. What does that mean?
      Denise Torres 11:04 PM 03/19/13
       i filled on 2/.2 and still nothing not even a date -.-
      Kelli C 11:05 PM 03/19/13
       so im new to all this...any updates on accepted 2/15 no letters had 8863 status onwmr changed 3/4 to generic message no changes since
      mommy4585 11:05 PM 03/19/13
       oh god....thank god my husband came home early
      Linda Gotkin 11:05 PM 03/19/13
       Yeah, I tried, had my questions written down just like last chat said but gave up after 60 mins.
      mommy4585 11:05 PM 03/19/13
       if im on hold more then 45 min. ill call back right before 7
      mommy4585 11:05 PM 03/19/13
       my time
      Kelli C 11:07 PM 03/19/13
       haha and why is everyone asking bartd questions are you the answer man? like I said just joined today so totally out of the loop
      mommy4585 11:07 PM 03/19/13
       yeah he is
      Kelli C 11:07 PM 03/19/13
       10-4
      BartD 11:08 PM 03/19/13
       im hungry man right now
      Kelli C 11:08 PM 03/19/13
       that's a big 10-4
      Linda Gotkin 11:08 PM 03/19/13
       @BartD can you tell me when my pizza will get here? lol. For real, mine was ordered an hour ago.
      Brittany Miller 11:08 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      BartD 11:08 PM 03/19/13
       damn got mine n21 mins
      mommy4585 11:09 PM 03/19/13
       Lol so is my almost 3 yr old shes going around saying she wants Chinese food but we dont have the money to get it :(
      atom jim 11:09 PM 03/19/13
       I waited an hour and finally got a rep who looked into my account and told me they fixed all my errors and it started processing this week and I should see something in a couple days. I hoping to didn't lie to me!
      Kelli C 11:09 PM 03/19/13
       @ linda..must have ordered it from HRB
      BartD 11:09 PM 03/19/13
       ur pizza is delayed due to the fiscal cliff
      Linda Gotkin 11:09 PM 03/19/13
       I want a refund!!! lol
      atom jim 11:10 PM 03/19/13
       Been told a lot of things last 2 weeks. lol
      fedup4883c 11:10 PM 03/19/13
       Bartd how long does it take to remove an unpostable error after u verify ur ID?
      Kelli C 11:10 PM 03/19/13
       @atom jim I don't know what to believe anymore
      mommy4585 11:10 PM 03/19/13
       Ok guys Ill brb i gotta go make dinner so my daughter stops bugging me
      bigtimeny1 11:10 PM 03/19/13
       bart the fart
      Todd Graham 11:11 PM 03/19/13
       hey bart got a question, not sure if its been answered yet
      Todd Graham 11:11 PM 03/19/13
       whats with the acceptance dates changing on hrb website
      Alicia Clemons 11:12 PM 03/19/13
       Hi bartd. My TA told me today that I went back into processing last Thursday. Friday morning, my amount was missing and then it reappeared on Sunday. Any idea on how much longer??
      bigtimeny1 11:12 PM 03/19/13
       thats when you get reprocessed when the dates change
      Todd Graham 11:13 PM 03/19/13
       thats what i figured it meant, but just wanted to run it past the big man with his own page now lol
      BartD 11:13 PM 03/19/13
       I am finally done
      BartD 11:13 PM 03/19/13
       i am all urs now
      bigtimeny1 11:13 PM 03/19/13
       bart the fart, done farting lol
      Alicia Clemons 11:14 PM 03/19/13
       Hi bartd. My TA told me today that I went back into processing last Thursday. Friday morning, my amount was missing and then it reappeared on Sunday. Any idea on how much longer??
      BartD 11:15 PM 03/19/13
       sunday most likey
      Todd Graham 11:15 PM 03/19/13
       what about the acceptance date changing on hrb website, not that i dont believe you bigtime
      Alicia Clemons 11:16 PM 03/19/13
       How long does it take to get a paper check if the bank rejects the direct deposit?
      BartD 11:16 PM 03/19/13
       means ur in processing or have been processed
      BartD 11:17 PM 03/19/13
       clemons up to 4 weeks usally 2
      Todd Graham 11:17 PM 03/19/13
       yeah i havent received the tax topic back yet and my amount is still there, so im hoping tonight i get those updates
      BartD 11:17 PM 03/19/13
       it possible could'
      Alicia Clemons 11:18 PM 03/19/13
       Why would my amount disappear and then 2 days later reappear?
      Todd Graham 11:18 PM 03/19/13
       now how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wook lmao
      BartD 11:18 PM 03/19/13
       common that is the Error correcting its self out of the system some pople don't even see it
      Todd Graham 11:18 PM 03/19/13
       wth is wook
      Krysty Rayski 11:19 PM 03/19/13
       LOL Todd!
      Todd Graham 11:19 PM 03/19/13
       im back lol
      Krysty Rayski 11:19 PM 03/19/13
       Haha looks like we both are :P
      Alicia Clemons 11:19 PM 03/19/13
       Is it possible to get a ddd without being able to order transcripts? I have read that some people have had that happen.
      BartD 11:20 PM 03/19/13
       yes
      BartD 11:20 PM 03/19/13
       if manually entered transcripts may post way after master file
      Alicia Clemons 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       Can my TA change my dd to a paper check? My account is due to close on Friday and I doubt I will have my deposit by then.
      Asante Shelthia 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       I filed 01/28 accepted the sameday...I received a 4483c letter on 02/22 and verified the same day..i was able to order both transcripts last week for the first time and still no change, called irs last week was told still processing, called irs today was told they don't know why I have not received any updates to call the number I called to verify..please help me
      crystallikes 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       my amount just disappeared today and got tax topic but my HRB date is still the same..any idea how much longer for me?
      BartD 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       i want every one to donate to this site when u get a refund even a dollar!!
      Krysty Rayski 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       Crystallikes; Same here, was just about to ask that!
      Kelli C 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       any hope for the 2/15 accepters with no status change except for no bars on WMR
      Todd Graham 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       i got no problem with that
      Todd Graham 11:21 PM 03/19/13
       gotta pay the man
      kimnscott05 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       ok, i got in... phew!
      crystallikes 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       we will :)
      BartD 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       it doesn't go to me
      BartD 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       i am not an admin
      Brittany Miller 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       any hope for the 2/14 accepters with no status change except for no bars on WMR?
      Todd Graham 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       hi kim
      Todd Graham 11:22 PM 03/19/13
       welcome back
      kimnscott05 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       So, i filed 1/22, 8863, EIC, no letters, no nothin...
      Sean Jeane 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       any one file on 2/15 get their refund yet
      kimnscott05 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       HRB changed my acceptance date yesterday and this morning i woke up with no amount but have 152
      fedup4883c 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       just got off the phone with irs and they said i went unpostable on 2/27. I filed on 2/1 so why did it take so long?
      kimnscott05 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       ideas?
      kimnscott05 11:23 PM 03/19/13
       HI TODD!
      BartD 11:24 PM 03/19/13
       shelthia don't call in l 4483c are all manually entered system keeps kickin them out
      Asante Shelthia 11:24 PM 03/19/13
       what do you mean?
      Alicia Clemons 11:24 PM 03/19/13
       Can my TA change my dd to a paper check? My account is due to close on Friday and I doubt I will have my deposit by then.
      BartD 11:24 PM 03/19/13
       clemons no
      Todd Graham 11:25 PM 03/19/13
       i think the admin of this site should be looking into selling tshirts to make money.... I survived 8863 glitch 2013
      BartD 11:26 PM 03/19/13
       manually entered 4483c is flawed i confirmed it this morning system sees potential fraud id theft and kicks it out u verify and it goes back in the same system that just rejected it so now they have to manually enter them past error make postible and access for risk and generate a dd aafter
      Todd Graham 11:26 PM 03/19/13
       bet i know of 600,000 people that would buy one lol
      atom jim 11:26 PM 03/19/13
       bumper stickers
      Quintell Moore 11:26 PM 03/19/13
       meeeee.lol
      Krysty Rayski 11:26 PM 03/19/13
       Todd; I would so buy a t-shirt. Not even kidding.
      BartD 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       graham i actually told them that
      Todd Graham 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       they would sell like hotcakes
      kimnscott05 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       i would totally buy one too!
      Asante Shelthia 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       how long can this take? so there is nothing I can do about it?
      BartD 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       i want a shirt that says i survived all the 8863 questions
      kimnscott05 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       LMAO
      Quintell Moore 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       too funny!!!
      kimnscott05 11:27 PM 03/19/13
       that would be hilarious
      Alicia Clemons 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       So since someone manually fixed my 8863, is it possible that I will get my refund before the transcripts are completed?
      Todd Graham 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       not our fault you are the computer master
      Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       I want one that says I survived the delay!
      Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       LOL
      crystallikes 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       my amount just disappeared today and got tax topic but my HRB date is still the same..any idea how much longer for me?
      Quintell Moore 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       right!!
      BartD 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       clemons no manually fixed and manually entered are different
      kimnscott05 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       So, any ideas on whats goin on with my shiat? I havent been here the whole time so don't know if anyone has anything similar
      4464cwaiting 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       whats for us the 4464c filed early 1/23 hoh 8863 and eic
      BartD 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       manually fixed meansit goes back into processing
      4464cwaiting 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       still waiting
      Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
       Our cell phone's the only thing that's been sacrificed... honestly I don't really miss it... but I can't call to bug the IRS now LOL
      BartD 11:29 PM 03/19/13
       if u have a smart phone u can get a text free account and call over the interent
      Todd Graham 11:29 PM 03/19/13
       see hes a genius
      BartD 11:29 PM 03/19/13
       no cell service needed
      Alicia Clemons 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       What is the average processing time? I'm just freaking out because my amount disappeared which I thought was a good thing and then reappeared and haven't been able to order transcripts.
      4464cwaiting 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       Bratd whats for the 4464c
      Todd Graham 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       Alicia is blowing you up bartd
      BartD 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       true processing time is total of 10 days anything past that is oh noooo
      fedup4883c 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       was just told by a rep that i went unpostable on 2/27 so my 8 weeks started then... i didnt know that. I still want to know what was the point of verifying if i am still in errors smh. and of course she doesnt know the answer to that!
      Revillie Trenary 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       So Bart... if out amount disappears with Tax Topic 152... is THAT when we should count 10 days from?
      Alicia Clemons 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       Sorry!!! I just can't questions elsewhere.
      BartD 11:30 PM 03/19/13
       4464c if there verifying something such as wages
      4464cwaiting 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       well my letter was dated 2/1
      4464cwaiting 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       im still waiting
      BartD 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       topic 152 is gone
      4464cwaiting 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       60days will be up on april 1st
      Linda Gotkin 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       are you affiliated with gov.com?
      Revillie Trenary 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       topic 152 is there... but amount is gone
      Revillie Trenary 11:31 PM 03/19/13
       been like that since Friday
      BartD 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       than yes 10 days in normal frames of processing
      Revillie Trenary 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       cool... good to have a reference point LOL
      BartD 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       waiting than u will get it soon if no letter
      Revillie Trenary 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       Sorry, I'm sure you've answered that question a hundred times already
      crystallikes 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       thanks revillie..guess he only responds to you
      BartD 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       its ok'
      BartD 11:32 PM 03/19/13
       shhhhhhh
      BartD 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       i am trying
      BartD 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      Revillie Trenary 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       sorry crystal
      BartD 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       go ahead crystal
      BartD 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       everyone shhh crysal wants to talk now
      4464cwaiting 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       i hope bartd as of today is not other letters coming
      4464cwaiting 11:33 PM 03/19/13
       kk
      Asante Shelthia 11:34 PM 03/19/13
       i don't know if you answered my question, so theres is no time period to when i will get my refund and there is nothing i can do about it at this time...is it just a wait game
      BartD 11:34 PM 03/19/13
       wait what happen to crystal
      BartD 11:34 PM 03/19/13
       asante yes u wait
      4464cwaiting 11:35 PM 03/19/13
       crystal ask your question girl
      crystallikes 11:35 PM 03/19/13
       lol...u just answered...was about the amount disappering and tax topic..thanks guys
      BartD 11:35 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      BartD 11:35 PM 03/19/13
       all that for nothing
      BartD 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       see this is y i need the shirt
      kimnscott05 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       wait! I didn't see the answer!!!
      Todd Graham 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       right
      4464cwaiting 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       ok bartd i should sit and wait for my 60 days to be over then??
      crystallikes 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       well it was helpful...got something to look forward to now
      BartD 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       whats ur question
      Kelli C 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       So when your amount disappears is the only indication of a DDD coming. Mine has never disappeared as of yet. is that what I should be looking for
      Jen B 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       mine never disappeared
      Jen B 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       and i got a dd
      kimnscott05 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       whats up with 152 n no amount lol
      mommy4585 11:36 PM 03/19/13
       ok im back and still on hold
      Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       Thanks Jen B
      BartD 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       right never disappear is the best
      Jen B 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       mine stayed "ghosting" the whole time. No transcripts nothing then bam woke up with 2 orange bars.
      Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       Ok cool thank you
      Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       was getting concerned
      kimnscott05 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       never disappear would be great but...
      Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       What does the term ghosting mean I see on here all the time
      kimnscott05 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       most of ours did lol
      BartD 11:37 PM 03/19/13
       kimn means ur in processing
      crystallikes 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       aww man..it disapeared
      BartD 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       or errors
      kimnscott05 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       ok thanks
      mommy4585 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       my amount never disappeared just the bars
      BartD 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       that's ok 2
      kimnscott05 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       i have called a milliion times and got different answers every time
      4464cwaiting 11:38 PM 03/19/13
       well my account transcript come blank as 3/18 and i received then on 3/1
      BartD 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       waiting blank means nothing to report
      4464cwaiting 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       amount never disappeared
      BartD 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       ok stop
      4464cwaiting 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       kk
      kimnscott05 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       ok go lol
      BartD 11:39 PM 03/19/13
       AMOUNT NOT DISPEARING AND UR IN ERRORS MEANS UR NOT BEING LOOKED AT YET
      Krysty Rayski 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       Bartd; I had called and confirmed with 2 separate reps that there were no errors with my return. Today 152 popped up and my amount disappeared so if I'm reading everything right then chances are I'm back in processing?
      4464cwaiting 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       oooooooooooooooooo
      kimnscott05 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       oooooooooo
      kimnscott05 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       ok, i feel better now lol
      crystallikes 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       sounds good to me
      4464cwaiting 11:40 PM 03/19/13
       wtf when they going to start to look at mine because my 60 days are up in 11 days
      Todd Graham 11:41 PM 03/19/13
       waiting is mad
      BartD 11:41 PM 03/19/13
       krysty is an example amount went buh bye that means she is or was n erorrs and was looked at and is now in the stage to get to normal processing
      BartD 11:41 PM 03/19/13
       4464 they can send another letter or just release it
      4464cwaiting 11:42 PM 03/19/13
       no more letters PLEASEEE
      Krysty Rayski 11:42 PM 03/19/13
       Bartd; Thanks for your time, and so it should hopefully be smooth sailing from here on out?
      4464cwaiting 11:42 PM 03/19/13
       Yes thank you bartd
      Tracy Becker 11:43 PM 03/19/13
       two timing again todd??
      crystallikes 11:43 PM 03/19/13
       thanks Bartd..all the way from Memphis ..lol
      4464cwaiting 11:43 PM 03/19/13
       haha thanks all the way from worcester Massachusetts lol
      BartD 11:43 PM 03/19/13
       welcome
      Krysty Rayski 11:44 PM 03/19/13
       Thank you again from Chi-city!
      BartD 11:44 PM 03/19/13
       welcome
      kimnscott05 11:44 PM 03/19/13
       are you going to be on later this week so we can tell you our updates?
      mommy4585 11:44 PM 03/19/13
       ok i hung up i think ill wait till closer to 7 my time and call back
      Tracy Becker 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       i was just glad to see my wmr change today
      BartD 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       kimn tomorrow and ofcourse friday
      kimnscott05 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       ok awesome
      BartD 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       than next week ill be on Tuesday- 4/2
      Linda Gotkin 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       :) Thanks Bart!
      BartD 11:45 PM 03/19/13
       i am dedicated
      kimnscott05 11:46 PM 03/19/13
       who are you and how do you know all of this stuff anyway? lol
      crystallikes 11:46 PM 03/19/13
       you are our sokesperson :)
      fedup4883c 11:46 PM 03/19/13
       so when u verify your 4883c and the say they released ur hold and u will go back to processing how true is that? because i am still in unpostable error
      crystallikes 11:46 PM 03/19/13
       oops...spokesperson..the p got stuck
      BartD 11:46 PM 03/19/13
       Last year we had a user named Kelly that shared her thoughts on the tax season and created a following of her own. This year we have a user BartD who has created a following of his own?which we support! Who is Bart? According to Bart he has a masters in computer engineering and computer programming and helped build the software and processing system you all are complaining about! So share your thoughts and questions for him here!
      Always remember, the information we provide is purely speculative. We derive our information from personal experiences and comments made in our chat rooms and forums. We attempt to maintain the most relevant and accurate information available. However, we are neither responsible for false information nor the timeliness of refund status and delivery
      kimnscott05 11:47 PM 03/19/13
       ok nifty
      BartD 11:47 PM 03/19/13
       that answers that copy and paste
      kimnscott05 11:47 PM 03/19/13
       thank you
      kimnscott05 11:47 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      fedup4883c 11:47 PM 03/19/13
       so when u verify your 4883c and the say they released ur hold and u will go back to processing how true is that? because i am still in unpostable error
      mamaof4 11:48 PM 03/19/13
       fedup i am unpostable but it closed and i am back in normal processing and they told me it would be 6 weeks for processing
      BartD 11:49 PM 03/19/13
       when i am not on chat u may post on https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts and i will slowly get to them tomorrow but i will be bussy and if i don't answer than just keep trying either in chat or in timeline on that page i wont be mad iff u ask 100 times somethings i am just going to miss
      fedup4883c 11:49 PM 03/19/13
       mamaof4 how long after u verified did urs close?
      BartD 11:49 PM 03/19/13
       mama yes cause earlier i stated all 4483c are manaually entered
      mamaof4 11:49 PM 03/19/13
       i didnt have to verify anything...i got nothing
      mamaof4 11:50 PM 03/19/13
       it was due to not filing the FTHBC form
      BartD 11:50 PM 03/19/13
       mama oh u were upostiable got another reason that's right
      BartD 11:50 PM 03/19/13
       u should be done soon
      mamaof4 11:50 PM 03/19/13
       i was in hopes for 10 days
      BartD 11:50 PM 03/19/13
       might be slower cause u lose some money
      BartD 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       that has to post before the return post
      Ginger Barnes 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       what does it mean if you have tax topic 152 and amount gone?
      mamaof4 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       oh ok
      Todd Graham 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       oh boy
      fedup4883c 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       so bartd when they tell you they released the hold after verified u aare really just waiting for someone to really release it manually?
      kimnscott05 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       bet you are sick of that one bart
      Tracy Becker 11:51 PM 03/19/13
       lmao todd
      fedup4883c 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       lol at Todd
      Todd Graham 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       it means you are processing
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       graham yeah that i must say goto my page and search for it
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       the answer is there 10000 timed
      kimnscott05 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       he should just have a seperate page that he can copy and post when he gets multiples of the same question
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       times
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       i have that
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       it was the page i sent
      kimnscott05 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       your doing a great job bart
      BartD 11:52 PM 03/19/13
       https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
      BartD 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
      kimnscott05 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
      kimnscott05 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      BartD 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       hey im building a curriculum at work, how good are you with word lol
      Sean Jeane 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts lol
      BartD 11:53 PM 03/19/13
       what are u building it for
      Brown_Bear 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       @Todd, NICE!! Get tax help AND tech support!!
      Todd Graham 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       im in the military, at the school all the new people come to after boot camp to learn their jobs, have to build a new one for my job, so sick of the damn program we use
      BartD 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       bear lol
      Brown_Bear 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       thats what I call killing two birds with one stone
      Brown_Bear 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       :-)
      Todd Graham 11:54 PM 03/19/13
       you familiar with citrex
      Brown_Bear 11:55 PM 03/19/13
       Citrix
      Brown_Bear 11:55 PM 03/19/13
       ?
      Todd Graham 11:55 PM 03/19/13
       maybe....not sure how to spell it, but its a pain in my a s s
      Brown_Bear 11:55 PM 03/19/13
       HAHA, thats the one!
      Todd Graham 11:55 PM 03/19/13
       makes me wanna jump off a building
      Sean Jeane 11:56 PM 03/19/13
       kind of a mobile work site??
      Todd Graham 11:56 PM 03/19/13
       AIM is what we use
      Brown_Bear 11:56 PM 03/19/13
       I'm not good with Citrix, but it can be very cumbersome
      Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       its can be a complete pain in the A S S
      BartD 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       citrix systems?
      Asante Shelthia 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       i use citrix for work
      BartD 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       yeah citrix is part of the irs
      Brown_Bear 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       We went from taxes, to Word, to Citrix
      Brown_Bear 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       :-)
      Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       that explains it all
      Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      Brown_Bear 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      Asante Shelthia 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       its part of ATT too
      Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       now i completely understand the problem
      BartD 11:57 PM 03/19/13
       lol
      SueL 11:58 PM 03/19/13
       we use Citrix for Electronic Medical Records...very complicated
      Todd Graham 11:58 PM 03/19/13
       bart thanks for the help, im sure im not the only one that really appreciates it
      BartD 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       suel lots of people use the same thing ur irs reps use and banks use
      Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       wow i never realized how many people have to deal with that supid system
      BartD 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       ur welcoem
      mamaof4 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       I have had more answers today than i have since 1/30
      SueL 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       That's interesting, I was in education before and had never heard of it...
      Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       im a jet engine mechanic....if it doesnt work i hit it with a hammer.....im on my third computer......
      Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
       this week
      BartD 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       lololol
      SueL 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       Todd..lol
      BartD 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       and there is ur system glitch
      SueL 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       the hammer or Citrix :)
      Todd Graham 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       explains why my curriculum has been put into errors
      Brown_Bear 12:00 AM 03/20/13
       @BartD, are you in IT?
      Todd Graham 12:01 AM 03/20/13
       barts a genius
      Brown_Bear 12:01 AM 03/20/13
       I have heard his name many times on this site, LOL
      BartD 12:01 AM 03/20/13
       I hAVE 2 OH NOOOO WHAT HAVE I DONE
      BartD 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       brear yes and no
      BartD 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       I am self contracted with irs and apple
      Brown_Bear 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       oh ok, cool
      BartD 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       not always vcool
      SueL 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       Hey Bart can you jump over to your "board" and ask the question that Mr Give Up asked
      Todd Graham 12:02 AM 03/20/13
       this reminds me of bart answering the tax topic question
      Todd Graham 12:03 AM 03/20/13
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68
      BartD 12:03 AM 03/20/13
       doing it now
      Todd Graham 12:05 AM 03/20/13
       please tell me you watched that video
      mommy4585 12:06 AM 03/20/13
       Uggg this is so frustrating.....i still cant get on WMR
      BartD 12:07 AM 03/20/13
       ok answered
      Todd Graham 12:08 AM 03/20/13
       bart make sure you check out that video....and think of the tax topic 152 question when you watch it
      SueL 12:09 AM 03/20/13
       Thanks Bart, I answered but you have much more clout than me :)
      BartD 12:09 AM 03/20/13
       lol go fuck urself
      BartD 12:09 AM 03/20/13
       that was great'
      BartD 12:09 AM 03/20/13
       that's my new response
      Todd Graham 12:09 AM 03/20/13
       hahahaha
      BartD 12:10 AM 03/20/13
       funny funny
      Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
       im kind of the chat room clown
      Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
       ask any of the people that have been on here with me
      Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Tracy Becker 12:10 AM 03/20/13
       kind of??? lol
      Chris Henson 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       so, is there a specific reason why i cant access WMR...said couldnt verify my info on attempt 1...i c alot of people having that problem today
      Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       i try to lighten the mood of this whole thing, yeah it sucks, but cant get to bent out of shape on things you really have no control over
      Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       see look at what tracy said
      BartD 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       Henson refund amunt change??? that's the only reasomn
      Tracy Becker 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       i loved the comment about your wife and the double fisting of doughnuts
      lindsl2 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       BartD do you have any insight as to when the bulk of us 8863ers would likely have our refund considering that form is what is likely holding us up ?
      Tracy Becker 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
       she ended up eating 3
      Chris Henson 12:12 AM 03/20/13
       it hasnt changed that i know of
      BartD 12:12 AM 03/20/13
       97 percent in in processing
      BartD 12:12 AM 03/20/13
       additional error or flags will cause more delay
      Todd Graham 12:12 AM 03/20/13
       oh snap....they are moving them through pretty quick then
      Gabriel Reilly 12:13 AM 03/20/13
       So I called IRS and they told me that I've been in the Corrections Unit since last week and that I should expect a letter? WTH? I thought I've been processing since the 9th... Bartd, do you have any idea what could be going on and the timeframe I may receive my return?
      BartD 12:13 AM 03/20/13
       and I confirmed that
      BartD 12:13 AM 03/20/13
       atleast that what they tell me so 97 means 89
      SueL 12:13 AM 03/20/13
       Please let me not be in that 3%....or 11%
      Todd Graham 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       im pretty sure if the irs looks at these posts, i will be the last one to get processed
      lindsl2 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       Hi suel I am SL from before i forgot my password and had to reset it lol
      Tracy Becker 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       thats why we are moiving along and your are not lol
      Todd Graham 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       i hate you lol
      BartD 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       if u were in prcessing and now in corrects new error was found
      Tracy Becker 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      BartD 12:14 AM 03/20/13
       that could be 5-15 more days dlay to enter processing
      SueL 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       oh hey SL or lindsl2
      SueL 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       :)
      lindsl2 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       : )
      Todd Graham 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       one good thing about this website, i feel like ive made alot of new friends lol
      Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       this site and you todd have kept me from jumping off the roof or hanging myself with my shoe laces lol'
      Todd Graham 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       i will look forward to talking to all of you next year
      Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       thats true todd me too'
      Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       omg lets not have another year like this i cant take it
      Kelli C 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       god I hope not no offense
      BartD 12:15 AM 03/20/13
       graham were not ur friends till u take us to dinner or bar
      lindsl2 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       lol from the looks of it we may still be waiting next year lol
      Gabriel Reilly 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       Thanks Bart...I can't seem to catch a break. Maybe it will fix itself.
      Tracy Becker 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       but just seeing what everyone has been up to fo r a year
      Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       hahaha, not til i get my money fool
      SueL 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       Now Lindsl2 let's not be a negative Nelly...
      Tracy Becker 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       i agree with bart lol
      Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       uh oh do we have a negative nancy in the room
      Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       you would tracy
      BartD 12:16 AM 03/20/13
       that's when friends happen at the point u have money
      Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       its not me lol
      BartD 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       oh shit I forgot my wallet u got this right
      lindsl2 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       lolololol
      Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       thats what im saying, you all know im broke and you still like me lol
      Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       of course you would pull that on me todd
      Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       hell yeah
      BartD 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       no comment
      Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       thanks bart
      Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
       the old forgot my wallet trick
      Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       gotta get a girl to pay somehow
      Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       uh oh
      Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       i did it again
      BartD 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       lol could be worse could get the most expensive thing thn walk out
      Tracy Becker 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       i could see the old forgot it in the car and we dont see you ever again lol
      Tracy Becker 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       lol bart
      Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
       lol....are you sure we havent met before lol
      BartD 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      BartD 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      lindsl2 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       so bart is it true if yournot able to order your transcripts WMR wont update ?
      Tracy Becker 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       no just know a few men like that thankfully i never dated them tho lol]
      BartD 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       in 90 percent of cases
      BartD 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       my 90 not irs 90
      Todd Graham 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       oh man, i cant get my transcripts yet
      Todd Graham 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       d amn
      Tracy Becker 12:19 AM 03/20/13
       so bart, what does it mean if 152 is there and no amount?? just joking
      BartD 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       the other 10 are those who are manually entered
      Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       lamo
      Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      Kelli C 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       uh yeah that sucks neither can i
      SueL 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       me either
      lindsl2 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       whats your 90?
      ma4pa 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       damn the transcripts
      Tracy Becker 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       thought you would like that todd
      Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       giver her the response bart
      BartD 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       percent
      Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa, when are you all making the tshirts
      BartD 12:20 AM 03/20/13
       irs percentage is always way over the truth mark
      BartD 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       9 out of 10 get there returns in 21 days
      BartD 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       no ass holes 7 out of 10 do
      Chris Henson 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       and what about ordering transcripts...everytime i try it says there is a technical problem
      ma4pa 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       we did have a tshirt store last year dont know for sure about this year
      Todd Graham 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       tracy asked the tax topic 152.....
      yvette63 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       So if you are a 4464c and don't get a letter after the 60 days, will they release your money or what?
      Todd Graham 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       yeah i told on you
      BartD 12:21 AM 03/20/13
       Henson technical promblem
      BartD 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       call the transcript hotline
      Tracy Becker 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       thanks todd
      BartD 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       yes
      BartD 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       they have to
      lindsl2 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       is the transcripts hotline different info
      essence white 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       awww man todd is here and i have to get off line. he is funny
      Todd Graham 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      BartD 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       no put if he is having technical issue the hotline is hardly ever down
      Todd Graham 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       this is a serious chat room.....lmao....i tried to keep a straight face
      Tracy Becker 12:22 AM 03/20/13
       dont blow up his ego now lol
      Todd Graham 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       tooooooooo late
      Tracy Becker 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       whatever lol
      BartD 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       omg
      BartD 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       graham how old are u
      Tracy Becker 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       hey we keepit light, or we would all be cryin
      Todd Graham 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       old enough to know better
      essence white 12:23 AM 03/20/13
       lmao.... ok quick question i was stalking the irs daily and i was told that alers an audit is that true. i only called once almost daily
      Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       32 going on 5
      BartD 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       not so much
      Tracy Becker 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       omg im older than you??? im going to bed
      Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       this is what 15 years in the navy will get you lol
      ma4pa 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       @essense no way
      essence white 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       bart was that for me
      Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       well yeah, geriatric bed time was 15 min ago
      BartD 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       yes no way
      Tracy Becker 12:24 AM 03/20/13
       that was low
      essence white 12:25 AM 03/20/13
       ok thanks i said mabe thats why its been 40 something days
      essence white 12:25 AM 03/20/13
       im not calling thiugh because my day is better when i dont
      ma4pa 12:25 AM 03/20/13
       its 40 day plus because of forms the dam n forms
      BartD 12:25 AM 03/20/13
       uip
      essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       i have no ed credits
      BartD 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       yup
      ma4pa 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       EIC
      essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       accepted 2/1 no letters got trans last month
      Tracy Becker 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       you have the most popular chat site going, prob cuz todds here
      essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       yes
      ma4pa 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       okay there was a problem there too
      BartD 12:26 AM 03/20/13
       ur in errors of some kind
      essence white 12:27 AM 03/20/13
       oh ok... error aka screw her return lol
      ma4pa 12:27 AM 03/20/13
       dam n the errors
      Todd Graham 12:28 AM 03/20/13
       im being nice and letting bart handle essences's question
      Tracy Becker 12:28 AM 03/20/13
       LOL
      BartD 12:28 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa will no be answering all questions plese direct it there
      BartD 12:28 AM 03/20/13
       now
      Todd Graham 12:28 AM 03/20/13
       hahahaha
      BartD 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       talk about pawning it off
      Julie Parks 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       bart d i was able to order account transcript, then i received a 4464c letter and a few days later was able to order a return transcript. does that mean my return is done processing?
      essence white 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       thanks!!!!
      mommy4585 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       well im going to call again and hope that im not on hold for 45 min seeing as they close in 30 lol
      essence white 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       gn all
      Todd Graham 12:29 AM 03/20/13
       night
      BartD 12:30 AM 03/20/13
       4464c and order transcripts is 90 percent of the case because return posted flag master file sent to reviews
      ma4pa 12:30 AM 03/20/13
       will do
      lindsl2 12:30 AM 03/20/13
       So how accurate is the WMR tool anyhow ?
      Tracy Becker 12:31 AM 03/20/13
       night..hey wanna hear something funny? called my tax lady at HRB today and told her what was going on with my account. told her i called a few times and talked to rep, she said you talked to a human and didnt wait hours? what number are you calling? REALLY?? you are the tax professiona! I told her i didnt remember it lol
      Todd Graham 12:31 AM 03/20/13
       man who designed that da mn system
      BartD 12:31 AM 03/20/13
       10 percent accurate till its approved than 100 percent on the second bar
      BartD 12:32 AM 03/20/13
       opps
      lindsl2 12:32 AM 03/20/13
       well I need the dang 2nd bar
      BartD 12:32 AM 03/20/13
       ur talking to that man TODD
      Tracy Becker 12:33 AM 03/20/13
       lol got yourself in trouble i see
      SueL 12:33 AM 03/20/13
       lindsl2...I need any bars...none for me, would love to see the color orange and completely orange not just 1 bar
      BartD 12:33 AM 03/20/13
       THE SYSTEM IS BUGGED
      BartD 12:34 AM 03/20/13
       WONT BE FIXED TILL AFTER TAX YEAR
      lindsl2 12:34 AM 03/20/13
       haha let me rephrase I need anybars too lolol
      BartD 12:34 AM 03/20/13
       I am not sched to got back till 4/22
      Julie Parks 12:34 AM 03/20/13
       bartd so is the 4464c always sent out due to an issue with income reported and withheld? or could it be something else? my bars are also now gone and topic 152 and refund amount still showing
      BartD 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       yes and it wasn't even looked at yet
      mommy4585 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       on hold now saying greater then 15 minutes
      SueL 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       Bart, go tomorrow and fix it!! and we'll all send you our info and you can fast track our refunds!
      BartD 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       lol I cant
      mommy4585 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       sure you can that would be so awsome!!!!
      Todd Graham 12:35 AM 03/20/13
       i dont believe in the word cant
      BartD 12:36 AM 03/20/13
       i am 1 doing stuff for apple right now and 2 a contract is a contract i cant walk in a be like oh i came early to fix this
      Todd Graham 12:36 AM 03/20/13
       you can do anything you put your mind to
      Julie Parks 12:36 AM 03/20/13
       bartd thanks for the info. i will go to another tax professional to see if he can pick up what caused the 4464c so that I can ammend the return
      Todd Graham 12:36 AM 03/20/13
       can you go to hrb and put a virus on their system please
      mommy4585 12:36 AM 03/20/13
       Ok Bart let me as you this: Have YOU gotten your refund yet????
      BartD 12:37 AM 03/20/13
       i cant fly i tried no wings and not very aerodynamic
      BartD 12:37 AM 03/20/13
       mommy 3/15 i did filed 2/1
      Todd Graham 12:37 AM 03/20/13
       hey thats the same day i filed
      Todd Graham 12:37 AM 03/20/13
       crap
      mommy4585 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i filled on 2/15
      lindsl2 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       NONO I got it Bart has all our refunds since he is the smart It guy and he wired it that way ...hmmmm lol
      SueL 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i filed on 2/14
      BartD 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i don't have EDU
      Tracy Becker 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i filed 2/16
      BartD 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i had electric plug in
      Todd Graham 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       da mn my educated wife
      SueL 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       and it took you that long to get your refund Bart?
      mommy4585 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i have 2 kids
      BartD 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       i hsve no kids
      Christine Blumenschein 12:38 AM 03/20/13
       Does anyone know if WMR changes if you file an injured spouse form, or does it just stay at still processing will give a date when available?
      mommy4585 12:39 AM 03/20/13
       and i was in college up till the week before i had my baby and then went back till december
      Todd Graham 12:39 AM 03/20/13
       bart does....
      Tracy Becker 12:39 AM 03/20/13
       lol bart knows allllllll
      BartD 12:39 AM 03/20/13
       will stay until approved
      Todd Graham 12:39 AM 03/20/13
       told you
      mommy4585 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       now im thinking i shouldnt of taken the ed credit
      Tracy Becker 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       same here
      Resheen W 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       evening all
      Todd Graham 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       im thinking next year i will file my taxes without it and then ammend it
      Resheen W 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       i'm thinking I should have carried the maximum dependents all year
      lindsl2 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       I had a chance to ammend it but NOOO i decided it would only be another 2 weeks ...boy was I wrong !!
      BartD 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       mommy i would say lots of people agrree
      Tracy Becker 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       i hear ya there
      mommy4585 12:40 AM 03/20/13
       im not taking it next year even if i do go back
      lindsl2 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       i think next year I will just ammend it
      Todd Graham 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       we got almost 4k extra with it
      BartD 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       it will be fixed than;
      mommy4585 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       we dont
      Todd Graham 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       i will wait 6 months for 4k
      SueL 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       I already changed my withholding so they don't get so much of my money every paycheck
      lindsl2 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       yeah we got 2K extra w it
      lindsl2 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       me too todd
      BartD 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       graham ill let them know to do ur last than'
      SueL 12:41 AM 03/20/13
       we got extra $2500 from it...or we will someday
      mommy4585 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       we get i think 1k extra this isnt worth it
      lindsl2 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       yeah thast it we will someday
      lindsl2 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       totally not worth it
      lindsl2 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       but when we finally do get it we will be happy
      mommy4585 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       my suv needs to go into the shop, my kids need clothes and we need a home to go to
      Todd Graham 12:42 AM 03/20/13
       sure it is, when you get that money finally, you can send me that 1k if you dont want it
      BartD 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       mommy did u ever call the irs like i said
      mommy4585 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       were trying to open a small business but we cant till we get the money and I told my husband that I was using the extra 1k
      mommy4585 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       im on hold now
      mommy4585 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       again
      BartD 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       ok
      BartD 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       want my prediction
      mommy4585 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       i was on hold for almost an hour last time so i hung up and decided to call back closer to closing time for me
      mommy4585 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       sure
      lindsl2 12:43 AM 03/20/13
       yes I need mine to buy a house everyday it doesn't get here it is that much longer
      Tracy Becker 12:44 AM 03/20/13
       i got 2500 with it and NO TODD you cant have it
      mommy4585 12:44 AM 03/20/13
       My in laws are "evicting" us from there basement and they know we dont have the money right now to move as im not working
      lindsl2 12:44 AM 03/20/13
       your inlaws must be knuckleheads
      Resheen W 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       @mommy are you serious
      mommy4585 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       yeah they are...i mean my kids are almost 3 and 7 months
      Resheen W 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       you're family
      mommy4585 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       yeah
      Resheen W 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       that's some bs
      lindsl2 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       something wrong with them people
      BartD 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       i think 80 percent of u 8863 with no other erros will have a ddd in next 2 weeks others will get it soon 4463 u wont get urs till close to 5 weeks from verified and errors not related to that or under review u will get it when ever its done
      mommy4585 12:45 AM 03/20/13
       they want there home back we were suppose to move to TN so I could go to nursing school at the place my dad said was a great school ( he lives there) but with no money we cant
      mommy4585 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       Im a 4463er :(
      BartD 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       4463 i remember talkin to u earlier
      mommy4585 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       My daughter turns 3 April 5th and by now we normally have all her presents and have planed her party but now we dont know what were going to do
      mommy4585 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       yeah
      BartD 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       i think u will have a dd when u talk to someone
      mommy4585 12:46 AM 03/20/13
       I hope so
      BartD 12:47 AM 03/20/13
       if not def by the end of week
      lindsl2 12:47 AM 03/20/13
       mommy,I really hope you get your money soon honey
      Resheen W 12:47 AM 03/20/13
       me too
      lindsl2 12:47 AM 03/20/13
       BartD you R awesome !!
      BartD 12:47 AM 03/20/13
       thank u
      lindsl2 12:48 AM 03/20/13
       : )
      mommy4585 12:48 AM 03/20/13
       I mean we have a travel trailer but the heater doesnt work the water tank leaks so we cant live in there we as of right now were screwed....i should be packing but I just dont have the energy to do it....my husband was called back to his 2nd job (he does Chinese delvery) and the only reason I was able to call the IRS is because I begged them to watch my girls
      BartD 12:48 AM 03/20/13
       actually mommy if u don't get a ddd by Friday i want to private chat with u friday
      mommy4585 12:48 AM 03/20/13
       ok
      Resheen W 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       wth
      Resheen W 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       are u serious
      mommy4585 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       the only thing that I can think for getting the letter is because i worked more jobs making more money and i had a baby other then that everything else is the same
      Resheen W 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       that's crazy
      SueL 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       I feel so bad for you, I can't imagine they would kick you out
      BartD 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       resheen what
      lindsl2 12:49 AM 03/20/13
       well I am leaving now hope to see everyone with good news tommorrow for all !!
      Resheen W 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       I can't believe her in laws are treating her like that
      Resheen W 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       she has a kids
      mommy4585 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       me neither.....they origanly said that they would wait till the date tt said and the was the 8th well that has come and gone
      Resheen W 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       I wouldn't treat my enemy like that
      BartD 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       yeah its a ashame
      BartD 12:50 AM 03/20/13
       that's y i need to pull some strings for her'
      Resheen W 12:51 AM 03/20/13
       i have 4 kids and i'm a single parent i know that i need my money like everyone else, but i feel so bad for you
      mommy4585 12:51 AM 03/20/13
       *Origanlly....i take care of them...i do all the cooking and cleaning and the grocery shopping.....i put almost $700 in house of 8 and that $700 is suppose to be for me, my husband and our 2 kids
      SueL 12:51 AM 03/20/13
       night lindsl2...i won't get an update on wmr tonight so i will tty tomorrow
      mamaof4 12:51 AM 03/20/13
       mommy we had to live with my inlaws a long time ago and we they thre us out too soi know exactly how you feel
      mommy4585 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       we have been with them for 4 yrs now.....my father in law is in a wheel chair out of the house and crutches in the house and he falls all the time and my mother in law is useless
      BartD 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       oh can family kick someone out with kids its mskes me wanna puke
      Todd Graham 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       slash their tires
      mommy4585 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       they dont have a car
      mommy4585 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       were the ones that take them where they need to go
      Todd Graham 12:52 AM 03/20/13
       guess they are using their chevrolegs now
      Tracy Becker 12:53 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Resheen W 12:53 AM 03/20/13
       lmao @ Todd
      mommy4585 12:53 AM 03/20/13
       and to top it off my SUV needs a new transmission so if all of us want to go somewhere we have to take 2 trips and it sucks
      Tracy Becker 12:53 AM 03/20/13
       sounds about like my luck these days mommy
      mommy4585 12:53 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      mommy4585 12:54 AM 03/20/13
       I cant get a TA since they cant serve us with an eviction...they were told that since im there caretaker they cant legally evict us but they can still kick us out
      Resheen W 12:55 AM 03/20/13
       it seems like they need y'all more than u need them
      Shawnderrick Barnes 12:55 AM 03/20/13
       hi guys
      BartD 12:55 AM 03/20/13
       mommy u still waiting
      Tracy Becker 12:55 AM 03/20/13
       i just think that everything is changing very quickly the last few days for most 8863ers so lets keep it rollin..
      Shawnderrick Barnes 12:55 AM 03/20/13
       i checked wmr this morning and 152 came back and my refund total is no longfer there
      mommy4585 12:56 AM 03/20/13
       its been down since October...the only reason we were able to get another car is because a friend of ours let us make payments to to them and still have the car but held the pink slip till we paid it off...well we did at the end of october while i was still working
      mommy4585 12:56 AM 03/20/13
       yeah i am
      mommy4585 12:56 AM 03/20/13
       been 24 minutes now
      Todd Graham 12:56 AM 03/20/13
       why is it that everytime something like this happens, bad luck comes out, or things come up out of the norm
      Resheen W 12:57 AM 03/20/13
       ikr Todd
      Todd Graham 12:57 AM 03/20/13
       like i had us budgeted for this 2 weeks to have a little over $300 left after all bills and groceries were bought
      Todd Graham 12:57 AM 03/20/13
       and gas in the cars
      mommy4585 12:57 AM 03/20/13
       my gma keeps asking us to move out to Cali and I keep telling her that Im not moving back home ever but I would still come and visit when I could afford it
      BartD 12:57 AM 03/20/13
       i always say bad things happen in 3's
      mommy4585 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       you have more then we do...i think we have like $20 in the baml
      mommy4585 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       *bank
      Todd Graham 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       but out of know where i get hit with my annual termite inspection fee of $200
      Resheen W 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       @BartD pls don't say that
      BartD 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       sorry
      BartD 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       true
      Resheen W 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       i'm dodging bad luck right now besides this refund issue
      Tracy Becker 12:58 AM 03/20/13
       yeah bart dont pee on our wheaties
      BartD 12:59 AM 03/20/13
       might be small might be big
      BartD 12:59 AM 03/20/13
       but always in 3's
      Tracy Becker 12:59 AM 03/20/13
       u are in good with us dont pi ss off the natives lol
      mommy4585 12:59 AM 03/20/13
       yeah my husband gets tips but after we get diapers and everything we need were broke
      BartD 12:59 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      mommy4585 1:00 AM 03/20/13
       7 my time and still on hold
      Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 1:00 AM 03/20/13
       Hey Bart, I just got off the phone with the IRS and they told me my hold up was the 8863 and that they corrected it and I should be put back into processing and I should have my refund in 4 week. If I do not have my refund by then I should call them back. He also said that it should not take that long that that are told to say four weeks but I should see something within two week. Is this a script.
      BartD 1:00 AM 03/20/13
       u think ur bad i created a system that caused millions of delays and i am trying to help so mine came im millions
      Todd Graham 1:00 AM 03/20/13
       lol, how do you sleep at night
      Resheen W 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       well bart i need you to make my bars go accepted and send..pls...and thank you :)
      BartD 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       yes script but in ur case accurate
      BartD 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       graham make me feel worse
      mommy4585 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       i just got disconnected.....great
      BartD 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       mommy 9 p,
      Todd Graham 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       i dont blame you
      BartD 1:01 AM 03/20/13
       sorry
      mommy4585 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       im in denver
      BartD 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       u have to call tomorrow after wmr
      mommy4585 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       oh i will
      Todd Graham 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       i blame the lack of communication between the irs and hrb
      mommy4585 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       when my husband gets home around 1
      mommy4585 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       i used tt
      Todd Graham 1:02 AM 03/20/13
       you have more things going on though
      Resheen W 1:03 AM 03/20/13
       @Todd i blame my ex husband for being a fat bastard and filing my son, making me have to file a paper claim
      Todd Graham 1:03 AM 03/20/13
       unless it was your idea to put the Y/N in the blocks lol
      mamaof4 1:04 AM 03/20/13
       i cant blame anyone on mine...it was all me
      Resheen W 1:04 AM 03/20/13
       i just want my money
      Resheen W 1:04 AM 03/20/13
       i would take my state at this point
      Todd Graham 1:05 AM 03/20/13
       i love the hrb facebook, those people are a bunch of whiny boo boo baby fkrs
      Resheen W 1:05 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       regardless of how bad it is, there is nothing that can be done, so you will just drive yourself nuts if you sweat the stuff you have no control over
      Resheen W 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       exactly like checking wmr everyday knowing its not going to change
      Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       be back, gotta go read to the kid
      Resheen W 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       lol the kid?
      Resheen W 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       really
      Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       is the boy better
      Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Resheen W 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       haha
      BartD 1:06 AM 03/20/13
       he ment himself
      Resheen W 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      BartD 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       everyone poops
      ma4pa 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       POOP
      Resheen W 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       So BartD I see you're mr popular
      Resheen W 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       is this issue going to be resolve sooner rather than later
      BartD 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa u just randomly say poop
      SueL 1:07 AM 03/20/13
       I agree with no having any control over the situation and driving yourself crazy over it, I think that's what I am doing, I HATE not having control!
      ma4pa 1:08 AM 03/20/13
       its a gift
      BartD 1:08 AM 03/20/13
       yes it will be sooner than later
      Resheen W 1:08 AM 03/20/13
       its a waiting game i guess
      ma4pa 1:08 AM 03/20/13
       its the control factor no control I have NO CONTROL
      ma4pa 1:09 AM 03/20/13
       I take medicine for it
      MoneyT 1:09 AM 03/20/13
       @BARTD on my acct transcript it has a processing date of 03/04/2013 what does that mean?
      SueL 1:09 AM 03/20/13
       Well everyone I am out for the night, I'll be back tomorrow to let you all know that I DIDN'T get an update on WMR
      Resheen W 1:09 AM 03/20/13
       lol @ sue
      BartD 1:09 AM 03/20/13
       money that means it was in processing since then
      BartD 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       suel i wont be on
      SueL 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       Bart, why not?
      BartD 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       but i am sure everyone will let me know on the timelione
      BartD 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       i have a lot of work to do
      SueL 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       yeah I shoudl probably work at work tomorrow and stay off here
      BartD 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       Friday is next day
      MoneyT 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       @BARTD i also have a cycle date of 20130705 what does that mean?
      SueL 1:10 AM 03/20/13
       night all
      Resheen W 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       night
      ma4pa 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       night
      BartD 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       2013 7 week 5 day means nothign
      Todd Graham 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       this is what i want to see
      Todd Graham 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       oh snap, i was told the 5 meant a day of the week
      ma4pa 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       I have been saying that since they started the whole cycle crap
      Resheen W 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       @Todd that book must have been 2 pages
      BartD 1:11 AM 03/20/13
       yup
      BartD 1:12 AM 03/20/13
       its crap
      Todd Graham 1:12 AM 03/20/13
       he has sooooo many books, and he picks the same ones all the time, so i kind of have them down now and really dont even have to read them anymore
      MoneyT 1:12 AM 03/20/13
       @BARTD do you know how long it takes to process since it's been processing since 03/04?
      BartD 1:13 AM 03/20/13
       should have processed unless u hit erorror again
      Resheen W 1:13 AM 03/20/13
       how do you know if you have errors if you never get a letter and the irs just tells you whatever to get you off the phone
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:14 AM 03/20/13
       yeah mine has been out of errors since 3/4 they said it has been processing since then. Expect my refund last week of april???? REALLY??
      mommy4585 1:14 AM 03/20/13
       thats like i was able to order my return trans last night and then havent been able to get on WMR at all today so the only thing i can do is wait to check it in the morning and then call the IRS back....im still waiting on my account trans that i ordered thursday or friday
      MoneyT 1:15 AM 03/20/13
       @BARTD I called last wk & they said it was in processing & if I don't have my refund by the end of the month then call them back. guess it's just a waiting game now..
      mommy4585 1:16 AM 03/20/13
       thats all it is for any of us
      Todd Graham 1:16 AM 03/20/13
       da mn still cant order transcripts
      Todd Graham 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       how sensitive is the transcript page when it comes to addresses
      BartD 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       money yes waiting
      mommy4585 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       i did mine at like 9 my time and im in denver
      mommy4585 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       i have to put it in the exact same way i did on my return
      Cindy Hindle 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       Hi Bartd! Sent you a text last night. This morning my info changed to no amount and topic 152. Good thing?
      Todd Graham 1:17 AM 03/20/13
       i never know if i should spell out circle, or just put in cir
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       hahahahahaha there it is bartd
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       here is your chance
      Cindy Hindle 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       Bad question?
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       my lord
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       my lord
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       my lord
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       my lord
      Cindy Hindle 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       sorry, I'm new
      Jenn Morris 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       ok I am sure you might have answered this over and over again i filed 1/30 accepted again 2/14 had 8863 edu credit and 1 w2 a out of errors but being told they can not tell me what day i enter processing but was told i am processing any idea on when i can recieve a return
      Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
       llmao
      mommy4585 1:19 AM 03/20/13
       when i did my return i put ave and not avenue if i spell it out it wont find it but it i us the abbreviation it will find it
      Todd Graham 1:19 AM 03/20/13
       just an inside joke cindy
      Cindy Hindle 1:19 AM 03/20/13
       No problem :)
      ma4pa 1:19 AM 03/20/13
       Todd ??
      Cindy Hindle 1:20 AM 03/20/13
       so no answer?
      BartD 1:21 AM 03/20/13
       morris 10 days form date of reprocessing
      Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68
      Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
       watch that ma4pa
      Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
       and think of that tax topic 152 question
      ma4pa 1:21 AM 03/20/13
       @cindy yes its a good thing possible ddd in 1-5 days
      Jenn Morris 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       ok how do i know the processing date if they will not give it to me
      Todd Graham 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       i told bart to watch it earlier because that has to be the #1 question asked
      ma4pa 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       do you have it in for me Todd
      Todd Graham 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       why
      ma4pa 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       LOL
      Tracy Becker 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       lmao that question will never die
      Cindy Hindle 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       thank you Ma :). It's been a long time. Sorry if I'm asking a question everyone else has :(
      mommy4585 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       great now my almost 3 yr old just said "oh shit"
      mommy4585 1:22 AM 03/20/13
       S**t
      Todd Graham 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       not your fault cindy, not picking on you, its just the #1 question asked
      Cindy Hindle 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       just praying for the end of this nightmare
      ma4pa 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       your welcome sweetie hope you get your refund soon
      ma4pa 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       shots
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       10 day from reprocessing?? Says who?
      BartD 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       ME
      ma4pa 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       everytime someone asks that question???
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       i have been back in processind as of 3/4
      Cindy Hindle 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       well maybe that is a good thing. Means things are being fixed :)
      Todd Graham 1:23 AM 03/20/13
       yes
      Todd Graham 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa just watch that video, it will all be clear
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       and still no transcripts, no wmr changes
      Tracy Becker 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       lmao mommy over the kid sayin s hit
      ma4pa 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       dam n todd I dont have time for a video
      Cindy Hindle 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       good God! Glad I didn't play if it has been that bad! :)
      BartD 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       3/4 back i processing u went out at some point or were reviewed for somthing
      ma4pa 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       okay brb
      mommy4585 1:24 AM 03/20/13
       yeah that means my husband gets to put all his change in her piggy bank....she only hears it from him
      Cindy Hindle 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       good luck everyone!!! I'll keep everyone updated :)
      Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       bye cindy
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       i was in for 8863, the homebuyer credit. out and started reprocessing on 3/4 according to 4 diff agents
      Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       im out for the night later all...check back in the am
      Cindy Hindle 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       bye!! Happy drinking!!! :)
      Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       todd...behave
      Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       you know me
      A L 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       I fille 1/27 had 8863 and EIC had to wait until 2/14 to submit. Tx preparer satted accepted 2/15. Was in errrors department until 2/23 (supposed. ly) No changes but the generic your return is being processed blah blah blah. Was able to check WMR until like 2 or 3 when I was not able to check stated It could not find me. When do you think I would receive any news?
      Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       exactly lol
      Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
       problem is......im sober
      Tracy Becker 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       same here :(
      Todd Graham 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       i only get worse when i drink
      Tracy Becker 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       omg thats awesome
      BartD 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       mp4pa will answer any topic 152 questions for now on
      mommy4585 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       if i had the money to get one I so would right now oh wait my kids are still up so i would have to wait till they went to bed
      Todd Graham 1:26 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      Tracy Becker 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       i gotta go im tired of talking and hearing about 152 lol
      BartD 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       its set in stone
      Todd Graham 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       you know ma4pa is watching that video right now right bart
      ma4pa 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       LMAo
      BartD 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       yeah i know
      ma4pa 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       I mean big O
      Todd Graham 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       fitting right
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:27 AM 03/20/13
       who gives a C about tax topic 152 had that for WELL over a month, means nothing
      Todd Graham 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       oh boy
      Todd Graham 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       tired is angry
      A L 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       @BartD: I fille 1/27 had 8863 and EIC had to wait until 2/14 to submit. Tx preparer satted accepted 2/15. Was in errrors department until 2/23 (supposed. ly) No changes but the generic your return is being processed blah blah blah. Was able to check WMR until like 2 or 3 when I was not able to check stated It could not find me. When do you think I would receive any news?
      mommy4585 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       its been on mine since day 1
      BartD 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa answer the topic statement pesdr
      BartD 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       plz
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:28 AM 03/20/13
       all the agents said it is just generic and means nothing
      Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
       LMAO
      Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
       do it
      Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
       i will do it if you want me to do it, im not professional at all
      ma4pa 1:29 AM 03/20/13
       I know thats right Todd
      Todd Graham 1:30 AM 03/20/13
       i have to be professional at work, this is my time to unwind
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:30 AM 03/20/13
       been on this site for 2 months, lol. it's all the same junk...and more and more people I have been on here with disappear.... hmmmph
      BartD 1:30 AM 03/20/13
       a l u should have already i would call u have another issue
      Jenn Morris 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       someone said there is a BIG update tonight is this right or no
      ma4pa 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       I will answer that question but I get to take a shot when I do
      Todd Graham 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       there is no rhyme or reason to anything the irs is doing. ppl say i got my transcript then got a ddd the next few days. I have 4 friends who got their REFUND but still can not get transcripts or FAFSA transfer
      BartD 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       damn that's a good idea
      mommy4585 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       when does wmr update?? like between when and when?
      Todd Graham 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       you are going to be hammered
      BartD 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       12-3
      ma4pa 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       Yes sometimes the WMR does a big dump on Wed
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:31 AM 03/20/13
       Yup, hitting the patron and JD now
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       I bet it takes a dump
      Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       thats horribel
      BartD 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       im going to take a shot for every topic 152
      ma4pa 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       I bet it takes a bigdump
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       poop
      A L 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       I have called and been told there is no issue just waiting to be processed to wait at first it was 2 weeks now is 4 weeks.
      BartD 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       lol the system is always in a dump mode
      Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
       he called the s h i t....poop
      ma4pa 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       I know bart always about the dump with them
      mommy4585 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa you must of had a lot of shots by now lol
      mommy4585 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       when does wmr update? like between when and when?
      Jenn Morris 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       So Bart would you like us to ask about topic 152 on purpose than
      ma4pa 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       I havent even begun
      mommy4585 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       ahh ok lol
      Todd Graham 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       so whats up the with tax topic 152 again
      BartD 1:33 AM 03/20/13
       AL there is an issue with ur return they just don't see it in coding yet
      KariSaysIt 1:34 AM 03/20/13
       Bart, I talked to a rep yesterday that said I had been put back into processing yesterday and if wmr had not updated by friday to call, does this sound legit. said i should have refund by a week from friday, checked my return for additional errors she said (actually read to me from it)
      BartD 1:34 AM 03/20/13
       oh god ma4pa who gave u permission to drink
      ma4pa 1:34 AM 03/20/13
       I dont know when it updates all they ever say is usually overnight
      mommy4585 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       ok
      BartD 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       I SAID 12 to 3
      BartD 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       AM
      Todd Graham 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       bart was it you that said it updates for like 3 hours throughout the night
      A L 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       thanks :/
      mommy4585 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       est???
      Todd Graham 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       well answers my question
      ma4pa 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       oh crap forgot to ask for permisson,,,,BART can I dring
      ma4pa 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       opps drink
      BartD 1:35 AM 03/20/13
       no
      KariSaysIt 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       and is ordering transcripts real time or is it updated nightly like wmr?
      mommy4585 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      BartD 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       no with out me
      Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       i asked ma4pa to change the name to green the other day, wont do it for me
      BartD 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       yes estern
      mommy4585 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       ok
      ma4pa 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       my powers are limited
      ma4pa 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       I'm limited
      Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       that sucks
      Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       bart override that system and make it green
      Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Lindsay Giedosh 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       i was told to ask u about the hrb acceptance date changing do you know what it means i filed in office on 1/19 accepted 1/30 had form 8863 got a 12c letter send in proper info i did fax it although was told by irs and hrb i didnt have to but i didnt trust if i didnt i wouldnt see my refund yesterday i happened to check hrb refund status and saw my acceptance date is now 3/18 do u have any info i called hrb they said irs sends them a message of updates but what is updated sounds like its prolonging things more im stressed
      ma4pa 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       LOL
      BartD 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       i tell everyone to wait till 4 am est time to checl
      ma4pa 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       oh sh it a novel
      Todd Graham 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       hahahahaha you are hitting the bottle arent you ma
      BartD 1:37 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa answer that 2
      Todd Graham 1:38 AM 03/20/13
       means you are back in processing
      BartD 1:38 AM 03/20/13
       giedosh ur back in normal processing somewhere between 3/14 to 3/18 and give it about 10 days
      ma4pa 1:38 AM 03/20/13
       Does you status on the wmr have the 152 tax topic
      BartD 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       omg
      BartD 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       stfu
      Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       go fuk yourself
      Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      BartD 1:39 AM 03/20/13
       llol
      ma4pa 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       okay i am no help
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       too many shots
      KariSaysIt 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       good luck to everyone, hope you get your refunds soon.
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       night kari
      BartD 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       no ur a pro at topic 152 i need u here
      BartD 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       and hrb updates
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       messed up the hrb update though
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       asked about tax topic 152
      Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
       shot
      8863erinhell 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       oh how I long to see tax topic 152.. and no amount...lol
      BartD 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       that's ok sktill learning
      Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa
      Lindsay Giedosh 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       thank you i was referred to u figured u would b helpful and ys u were
      Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       shot
      BartD 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       no problem
      Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       8863er said 152
      Lindsay Giedosh 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       thank u too ma4pa
      Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       i think that number should be put on the cuss word list
      BartD 1:41 AM 03/20/13
       yes ma4pa thank u
      flwrkr 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       hello BartD, question,4883c verified 2/18 been told processing since actually waiting for a real person to approve it,how long do you think,i was told 4/22
      Lindsay Giedosh 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       oh yea thanks too todd
      8863erinhell 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       lol y is that Todd?
      Todd Graham 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       i got tax topic *** back
      BartD 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       yeah topic 6969
      BartD 1:42 AM 03/20/13
       or topic666
      Todd Graham 1:43 AM 03/20/13
       i think ma4pa fell out of the computer chari
      Todd Graham 1:43 AM 03/20/13
       chair
      BartD 1:43 AM 03/20/13
       flwrkr 5 weeks after verified
      BartD 1:43 AM 03/20/13
       yeah me 2
      Melja3 1:44 AM 03/20/13
       I had topic 152 through all of this.. That and my refund amount. I did lose 152 a few days ago for less than a day
      flwrkr 1:44 AM 03/20/13
       ty
      ma4pa 1:44 AM 03/20/13
       hells to the yeaaaa
      Todd Graham 1:44 AM 03/20/13
       shot
      Todd Graham 1:44 AM 03/20/13
       bart ma4pa is going to be hammered
      Todd Graham 1:45 AM 03/20/13
       that one said it 2 times
      BartD 1:45 AM 03/20/13
       i am formally taking topic 152 off wmr next year
      ma4pa 1:45 AM 03/20/13
       too legit to quit hammer time
      Todd Graham 1:45 AM 03/20/13
       lmao
      mommy4585 1:45 AM 03/20/13
       my tax topic 152 has been there since day one!
      mommy4585 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       sorry ma4pa i had to take this one for me!
      BartD 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       i am changing the processing bars
      ma4pa 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       it has for many mommy4585
      8863erinhell 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       I take it topic 1fuckety2 is a no so nice subject???
      ma4pa 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       the bars suck
      Tasha Brown Ferguson 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       how much interest does irs pay if you get your refund after 4/15
      mommy4585 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       its about your refund options thats what mine said when i clicked it
      ma4pa 1:46 AM 03/20/13
       very little
      BartD 1:47 AM 03/20/13
       first 3 bars the same if in errors its going to say shit son ur screwed with out the lube
      mommy4585 1:47 AM 03/20/13
       it talks about dd check the card blah blah blah
      ma4pa 1:47 AM 03/20/13
       someone on the feed was saying if you cant check the wmr you are in review
      Todd Graham 1:48 AM 03/20/13
       lmao....my wife is cracking up right now
      BartD 1:48 AM 03/20/13
       almost no interst
      ma4pa 1:48 AM 03/20/13
       Hello Mrs Graham
      8863erinhell 1:48 AM 03/20/13
       lol I was just gonna say... Bart you should just say on the bars GET LUBE NOW!!!
      ma4pa 1:48 AM 03/20/13
       I think I meet you the other night
      Todd Graham 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       lol....she just smiled
      BartD 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       lol yup
      8863erinhell 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       1 =bet lube 2=get kneee pads ETC.
      Tasha Brown Ferguson 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       i'll be glad when this is over.....i did lose 10lbs
      Todd Graham 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       she thinks im crazy, i just start randomly start laughing and she goes what is going on there now
      Candice Witherspoon 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       hey bart....I am Candice and this is my situation. I filed on the 14th of feb and was accepted on the 15th. I checked my wmr every day for a week and a half and finally i decided to call the irs and was told they mailed me a letter on the 20th of feb which i have yet to receive. they even said it was a 4464c letter and wait 60 days and call back and hung up on me...........i order transcript on the 6th of march with cycle date of 20131003 and processing date of 3/25. I called again the next day and was told the same thing about a letter so i asked if they could resend it but they said no. I don't understand....I never got the letter but i received the transcripts both of them.
      BartD 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       graham nine is like wtf are u doing
      mommy4585 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       lol i woke my husband up last night laughing
      ma4pa 1:49 AM 03/20/13
       she thinks you are crazy??!
      Todd Graham 1:50 AM 03/20/13
       i think in place of tt 152 you should put a big middle finer
      Todd Graham 1:50 AM 03/20/13
       finger
      ma4pa 1:50 AM 03/20/13
       oh novel
      ma4pa 1:50 AM 03/20/13
       looking 152
      BartD 1:50 AM 03/20/13
       answer eitherspoons question
      BartD 1:51 AM 03/20/13
       witherspoons
      mommy4585 1:51 AM 03/20/13
       my husband was liek wtf i have to be up in 3 hrs why are you still up????
      BartD 1:51 AM 03/20/13
       ok guess i will
      mommy4585 1:51 AM 03/20/13
       i told him that is the only time that i get to myself is when him and the girls are sleeping lol
      Todd Graham 1:51 AM 03/20/13
       your screwed....does that answer work
      ma4pa 1:52 AM 03/20/13
       You need to call and ask where you are in the system
      mommy4585 1:53 AM 03/20/13
       its telling us were all screwed lol
      Candice Witherspoon 1:53 AM 03/20/13
       im stll here bart
      ma4pa 1:53 AM 03/20/13
       this letter is actually a low priorty right now because of the problems with the 8863
      BartD 1:53 AM 03/20/13
       answer is task 3/25 and thow it out the window and ur waiting until someone actually looks and reviews ur return they have 60 days and seem to taking every day of the 60 days from that letter
      BartD 1:54 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa is correct as well
      Candice Witherspoon 1:54 AM 03/20/13
       I am so pissed because i never even received the dang letter
      BartD 1:54 AM 03/20/13
       u did lost in mail computer generated and cant be esent
      BartD 1:55 AM 03/20/13
       they can read it to u
      BartD 1:55 AM 03/20/13
       i use to tell people wanna piss off an irs agent ask them to read the letter 2 u
      BartD 1:56 AM 03/20/13
       call back say i didn't understand can u re read it
      Candice Witherspoon 1:56 AM 03/20/13
       that is so messed up. I asked the next rep i got to read it and the only thing he said was no action is required from me but couldnt tell me what it said
      BartD 1:56 AM 03/20/13
       do that 4-5 times
      Candice Witherspoon 1:56 AM 03/20/13
       lol..............ok
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       so Bart, who are you that you seem to know more than the rest of us?
      Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       let me
      Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       let me
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       please
      mommy4585 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       go for it lol
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:57 AM 03/20/13
       just a good researcher?
      BartD 1:58 AM 03/20/13
       omg
      mommy4585 1:58 AM 03/20/13
       :-)
      Todd Graham 1:58 AM 03/20/13
       program designer....we will start there
      BartD 1:58 AM 03/20/13
       after i have to go for the nite
      mommy4585 1:58 AM 03/20/13
       we gotta keep our spirit alive somehow
      8863erinhell 1:59 AM 03/20/13
       the answer to our prayers, tax guru!!!!
      Todd Graham 1:59 AM 03/20/13
       and just for being a smart ass you are going to the back of the line
      Todd Graham 1:59 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      TiredOfWaiting8863 1:59 AM 03/20/13
       i saw that earlier, but as far as IRS info...
      Amorette Shaw 1:59 AM 03/20/13
       Bart!
      Amorette Shaw 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       Heeelp!
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       Well, he cant give me a ddd, do he;s not answering MY prayers, lol
      8863erinhell 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       he built the software system the irs is using.
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      raeinks 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GjVy2pMZiY here are some random rants to cheer everyione up tonight.
      8863erinhell 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       check out his bio under the purple tab its all there
      L M 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       Hi Bart, what about IDENTIFY...I was 8863...just call IRS today...I am back in processing as of today. My amt is gone topic 152 which is in sync with what they are telling me. I was married and my daughter is now living with me...do I NOW run the risk of having to verify even though I have called in several times with all my info from previous year....just afraid that I will have another hang up
      Amorette Shaw 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       I filed on 2/8 HRB... yada yada.. no ddd. 8863. it keeps saying no date yet yada yada. I keep calling the IRS they keep sayig 4-6 weeks from March 15th is this true!
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:00 AM 03/20/13
       so he is the guy who F-cked up everything for us?
      BartD 2:01 AM 03/20/13
       identy theft is 5 weeks after verified
      mommy4585 2:01 AM 03/20/13
       but he is also trying to help all of us
      Tom-and Estes 2:01 AM 03/20/13
       @BartD, I have a question: Filed 2/11 with ed credits, accepted 2/15. bars disappeared 3/4. Still have refund amount, no tax topic. Just waiting. broke down and called IRS yesterday 3/18, and guy said there was note stating IRS was asking for an additional week to process mine. He said which would be up on friday 3/22. Either DDD or $ by 3/22. checked on hr block yesterday 3/18 and acceptance date changed to 3/18. as of today still no change on WMR. what are your thoughts
      BartD 2:01 AM 03/20/13
       i am done for the nite guys i have to get up early long day
      8863erinhell 2:01 AM 03/20/13
       nope not at all... hrb didnt update software
      Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       Awww!
      Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       you are praising someone who are putting us through this terror.
      L M 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       ok...get sleep
      BartD 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       estes someone can aswer that
      Todd Graham 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       tom you are back in normal processing
      Candice Witherspoon 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       thanks bart and have a good night.
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       like muslims kneeling down to oSama
      ma4pa 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       bart is leaving
      ma4pa 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       night
      8863erinhell 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       Gnight Bart, and ty again!!!
      mommy4585 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       have a good night bart
      BartD 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       ill be back fridat
      Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       Come back Bart!
      BartD 2:02 AM 03/20/13
       Friday
      Amorette Shaw 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       Come Back Bart!
      Tom-and Estes 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       ok night
      Todd Graham 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       night
      mommy4585 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       ill let you know what they say when i call
      ma4pa 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       WHAT friday
      BartD 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       post on timeline ill try to answer some 2mor
      BartD 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       yes Friday will be gone all day
      Amorette Shaw 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       Bart... tell us you will come back in 4-6 weeks lol
      8863erinhell 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       lol remeber u gave out your phone number Bart I got it....lol
      ma4pa 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       Okay I will let ppl know cause I am here all the time
      BartD 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      ma4pa 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       I have no life
      ma4pa 2:03 AM 03/20/13
       have sugar daddy
      ma4pa 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       dont work
      BartD 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       ma4pa if u remember lol
      ma4pa 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       oh I well remember
      BartD 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       good nite gotta go crash another system tomorrow
      ma4pa 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       CRASH
      BartD 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       see ya friday
      BartD 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       lol
      BartD 2:04 AM 03/20/13
       i mean fix
      BartD 2:05 AM 03/20/13
       BYE EVERYONE
      Amorette Shaw 2:05 AM 03/20/13
       Bye!
      mommy4585 2:05 AM 03/20/13
       Bye!
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:05 AM 03/20/13
       wow
      mommy4585 2:05 AM 03/20/13
       ?
      ma4pa 2:07 AM 03/20/13
       anyone know what the 152 tax topic is???
      mommy4585 2:07 AM 03/20/13
       its got to do with the refund options
      mommy4585 2:07 AM 03/20/13
       dd check or the card lol
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:07 AM 03/20/13
       lolllolololol]
      Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       Why does the IRS Say 4-6 weeks from March 15?
      Tom-and Estes 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       is there a chance i will get a DDD or $ even if my refund amount never disappears or tax topic 152 doesnt come back or if i cant order transcripts
      Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       WHats march 15?
      cece stat 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       u still in errors like me
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       Tom I have 4 friends that were 8863. got their refunds already but still can not get transcripts for fafsa
      Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       whos you?
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:08 AM 03/20/13
       there is no rhyme or reason to ANY of it!
      mommy4585 2:09 AM 03/20/13
       i have a friend that is the same way she got her state and federal last month but cant get her transcripts
      Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       is it really going to take 4-6 weeks or is that stalling? Im just scared that it will never come
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       well first i was told 4-6, then 4-8 and tis morning 4-9
      Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       I just want to say... OK March 15th start from there? OK Now today is 4 days past
      Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       FOUR TO 9???????
      Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       9 WEEKS!!!
      mommy4585 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       they are going off of a script
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:10 AM 03/20/13
       i was out of errors for the second time on 3/4 and now "just processing"
      Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       im in just processing too
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       yes...that is why I am drunk...9 weeks@
      Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       thats almost 3 months
      cece stat 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       a rep told me thats what they are told to say
      cece stat 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       it could be anyday
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       they told me 3 times this week, will get refund around the last week of April
      Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       any day or 9 weeks
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:11 AM 03/20/13
       everyday
      Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       Whenever I call they say the same thing 4-6 weeks from March 15.
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       since 2/14
      Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       me since 2/8
      cece stat 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       me too
      Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       many are still waiting from january
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       because ou were probably out of errors and started processing again on 3/15
      Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       :(
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:12 AM 03/20/13
       I filed in January
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:13 AM 03/20/13
       before 8863 BullChit
      Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
       Ugh... January...
      Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
       Did you get a ddd... January?
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:13 AM 03/20/13
       NO
      Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
       omg
      Amorette Shaw 2:14 AM 03/20/13
       I feel like suing HRB for my pain and suffering
      mommy4585 2:14 AM 03/20/13
       its not just them i used turbo tax and im a 4464er
      Amorette Shaw 2:14 AM 03/20/13
       oh
      Amorette Shaw 2:15 AM 03/20/13
       But if 3 companies go and lie to their customers... their customers should atleast get their fee back
      mommy4585 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       turbo tax is only doing it if you filed before 2/14 because it was them that caused the problem for me i filed 2/15 so i cant
      Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       HRB hasnt yet
      Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       Im scared to get a refund especially without my REFUND
      cece stat 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       hrb has
      Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       YEA? How do you get it
      Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
       I tried last week and they said they werent
      cece stat 2:17 AM 03/20/13
       they say u call and ask for ur fees back if u been waiting over 21 days
      Amorette Shaw 2:17 AM 03/20/13
       Oh... But will you still get your refund? LOL
      cece stat 2:17 AM 03/20/13
       yes
      Amorette Shaw 2:17 AM 03/20/13
       I dont want to mess with it
      TiredOfWaiting8863 2:29 AM 03/20/13
       i files 1/26 with TT
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        BartD  10:55 PM 03/19/13
        finally aloud on chat!
        
        Brittany Miller 10:55 PM 03/19/13
        :)
        
        mommy4585  10:55 PM 03/19/13
        :)
        
        Linda Gotkin 10:56 PM 03/19/13
        Just a quick question. Is there a connection between those that filed online themselves versus ones that filed in offices?  No updates at all. IRS says still in error section of processing.
        
        dianat92301  10:56 PM 03/19/13
        : ) 
        
        mommy4585  10:56 PM 03/19/13
        What is the # for me to talk to someone? I cant find it
        
        BartD  10:56 PM 03/19/13
        no difference brb pizza is here
        
        fedup4883c  10:57 PM 03/19/13
        18008290582 ex 362
        
        mommy4585  10:57 PM 03/19/13
        thank you
        
        fedup4883c  10:57 PM 03/19/13
        they close  in 3 min
        
        fedup4883c  10:57 PM 03/19/13
        np
        
        mommy4585  10:58 PM 03/19/13
        They are open till 7 here in denver
        
        mommy4585  10:58 PM 03/19/13
        the last time i called was 5 minutes till 7
        
        fedup4883c  10:59 PM 03/19/13
        lol just realized not everyone is est lol
        
        fedup4883c  10:59 PM 03/19/13
        sorry about that
        
        mommy4585  11:00 PM 03/19/13
        lol its ok
        
        BartD  11:01 PM 03/19/13
        back and eating at same time
        
        atom jim 11:01 PM 03/19/13
        I was only able to check wmr once today, I saw tax topic 152 and missing $ amount on the left this morning, but then after that I wasn?t able to check again today.
        
        I thought it was just me. 
        
        mommy4585  11:02 PM 03/19/13
        I havent been able to get on at all today.....I didnt check it in the middle of the night so I wouldnt get locked out and tried when I got up and it wont let me in at all
        
        mommy4585  11:02 PM 03/19/13
        Im calling them now to see what they say
        
        Brittany Miller 11:03 PM 03/19/13
        I have been able to get in. Kinda wish I couldn't maybe I would get my hopes up for something. 
        
        Kelli C 11:03 PM 03/19/13
        yes please let us know what the update is
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:03 PM 03/19/13
        i could check my three times today with no problem.  of course there weren't any updates. :(
        
        BartD  11:03 PM 03/19/13
        if refund amount changed ucant login \ok back and eating at the 
        
        Brittany Miller 11:03 PM 03/19/13
        Same Linda. :(
        
        mommy4585  11:04 PM 03/19/13
        They said that the wait is greater the 30 min and that if you didnt need there help right now to call back on Weds. or Thurs. lol Im not waiting to call till then
        
        Brittany Miller 11:04 PM 03/19/13
        someone on the other chat has been on hold for two hours. 
        
        King Undeniable =)  11:04 PM 03/19/13
        My refund amount had been gone for a week now. What does that mean?
        
        Denise Torres 11:04 PM 03/19/13
        i filled on 2/.2 and still nothing not even a date -.-
        
        Kelli C 11:05 PM 03/19/13
        so im new to all this...any updates on accepted 2/15 no letters had 8863 status onwmr changed 3/4 to generic message no changes since
        
        mommy4585  11:05 PM 03/19/13
        oh god....thank god my husband came home early
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:05 PM 03/19/13
        Yeah, I tried, had my questions written down just like last chat said but gave up after 60 mins.
        
        mommy4585  11:05 PM 03/19/13
        if im on hold more then 45 min. ill call back right before 7
        
        mommy4585  11:05 PM 03/19/13
        my time
        
        Kelli C 11:07 PM 03/19/13
        haha and why is everyone asking bartd questions are you the answer man? like I said just joined today so totally out of the loop
        
        mommy4585  11:07 PM 03/19/13
        yeah he is
        
        Kelli C 11:07 PM 03/19/13
        10-4
        
        BartD  11:08 PM 03/19/13
        im hungry man right now
        
        Kelli C 11:08 PM 03/19/13
        that's a big 10-4
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:08 PM 03/19/13
        @BartD can you tell me when my pizza will get here? lol.  For real, mine was ordered an hour ago.
        
        Brittany Miller 11:08 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        BartD  11:08 PM 03/19/13
        damn got mine n21 mins
        
        mommy4585  11:09 PM 03/19/13
        Lol so is my almost 3 yr old shes going around saying she wants Chinese food but we dont have the money to get it :(
        
        atom jim 11:09 PM 03/19/13
        I waited an hour and finally got a rep who looked into my account and told me they fixed all my errors and it started processing this week and I should see something in a couple days.    I hoping to didn't lie to me!
        
        Kelli C 11:09 PM 03/19/13
        @ linda..must have ordered it from HRB
        
        BartD  11:09 PM 03/19/13
        ur pizza is delayed due to the fiscal cliff 
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:09 PM 03/19/13
        I want a refund!!! lol
        
        atom jim 11:10 PM 03/19/13
        Been told a lot of things last 2 weeks. lol
        
        fedup4883c  11:10 PM 03/19/13
        Bartd how long does it take to remove an unpostable error after u verify ur ID?
        
        Kelli C 11:10 PM 03/19/13
        @atom jim I don't know what to believe anymore
        
        mommy4585  11:10 PM 03/19/13
        Ok guys Ill brb i gotta go make dinner so my daughter stops bugging me
        
        bigtimeny1  11:10 PM 03/19/13
        bart the fart
        
        Todd Graham 11:11 PM 03/19/13
        hey bart got a question, not sure if its been answered yet
        
        Todd Graham 11:11 PM 03/19/13
        whats with the acceptance dates changing on hrb website
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:12 PM 03/19/13
        Hi bartd. My TA told me today that I went back into processing last Thursday. Friday morning, my amount was missing and then it reappeared on Sunday. Any idea on how much longer??
        
        bigtimeny1  11:12 PM 03/19/13
        thats when you get reprocessed when the dates change
        
        Todd Graham 11:13 PM 03/19/13
        thats what i figured it meant, but just wanted to run it past the big man with his own page now lol
        
        BartD  11:13 PM 03/19/13
        I am finally done
        
        BartD  11:13 PM 03/19/13
        i am all urs now
        
        bigtimeny1  11:13 PM 03/19/13
        bart the fart, done farting lol
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:14 PM 03/19/13
        Hi bartd. My TA told me today that I went back into processing last Thursday. Friday morning, my amount was missing and then it reappeared on Sunday. Any idea on how much longer??
        
        BartD  11:15 PM 03/19/13
        sunday most likey
        
        Todd Graham 11:15 PM 03/19/13
        what about the acceptance date changing on hrb website, not that i dont believe you bigtime
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:16 PM 03/19/13
        How long does it take to get a paper check if the bank rejects the direct deposit?
        
        BartD  11:16 PM 03/19/13
        means ur in processing or have been processed
        
        BartD  11:17 PM 03/19/13
        clemons up to 4 weeks usally 2
        
        Todd Graham 11:17 PM 03/19/13
        yeah i havent received the tax topic back yet and my amount is still there, so im hoping tonight i get those updates
        
        BartD  11:17 PM 03/19/13
        it possible could'
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:18 PM 03/19/13
        Why would my amount disappear and then 2 days later reappear?
        
        Todd Graham 11:18 PM 03/19/13
        now how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wook lmao
        
        BartD  11:18 PM 03/19/13
        common that is the Error correcting its self out of the system some pople don't even see it
        
        Todd Graham 11:18 PM 03/19/13
        wth is wook
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:19 PM 03/19/13
        LOL Todd!
        
        Todd Graham 11:19 PM 03/19/13
        im back lol
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:19 PM 03/19/13
        Haha looks like we both are :P
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:19 PM 03/19/13
        Is it possible to get a ddd without being able to order transcripts? I have read that some people have had that happen.
        
        BartD  11:20 PM 03/19/13
        yes
        
        BartD  11:20 PM 03/19/13
        if manually entered transcripts may post way after master file
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:21 PM 03/19/13
        Can my TA change my dd to a paper check? My account is due to close on Friday and I doubt I will have my deposit by then.
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:21 PM 03/19/13
        I filed 01/28 accepted the sameday...I received a 4483c letter on 02/22 and verified the same day..i was able to order both transcripts last week for the first time and still no change, called irs last week was told still processing, called irs today was told they don't know why I have not received any updates to call the number I called to verify..please help me
        
        crystallikes  11:21 PM 03/19/13
        my amount just disappeared today and got tax topic but my HRB date is still the same..any idea how much longer for me?
        
        BartD  11:21 PM 03/19/13
        i want every one to donate to this site when u get a refund even a dollar!!
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:21 PM 03/19/13
        Crystallikes; Same here, was just about to ask that!
        
        Kelli C 11:21 PM 03/19/13
        any hope for the 2/15 accepters with no status change except for no bars on WMR
        
        Todd Graham 11:21 PM 03/19/13
        i got no problem with that
        
        Todd Graham 11:21 PM 03/19/13
        gotta pay the man
        
        kimnscott05  11:22 PM 03/19/13
        ok, i got in... phew!
        
        crystallikes  11:22 PM 03/19/13
        we will :)
        
        BartD  11:22 PM 03/19/13
        it doesn't go to me
        
        BartD  11:22 PM 03/19/13
        i am not an admin
        
        Brittany Miller 11:22 PM 03/19/13
        any hope for the 2/14 accepters with no status change except for no bars on WMR?
        
        Todd Graham 11:22 PM 03/19/13
        hi kim
        
        Todd Graham 11:22 PM 03/19/13
        welcome back
        
        kimnscott05  11:23 PM 03/19/13
        So, i filed 1/22, 8863, EIC, no letters, no nothin...
        
        Sean  Jeane 11:23 PM 03/19/13
        any one file on 2/15 get their refund yet
        
        kimnscott05  11:23 PM 03/19/13
        HRB changed my acceptance date yesterday and this morning i woke up with no amount but have 152
        
        fedup4883c  11:23 PM 03/19/13
        just got off the phone with irs and they said i went unpostable on 2/27. I filed on 2/1 so why did it take so long?
        
        kimnscott05  11:23 PM 03/19/13
        ideas?
        
        kimnscott05  11:23 PM 03/19/13
        HI TODD!
        
        BartD  11:24 PM 03/19/13
        shelthia don't call in l 4483c are all manually entered system keeps kickin them out
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:24 PM 03/19/13
        what do you mean?
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:24 PM 03/19/13
        Can my TA change my dd to a paper check? My account is due to close on Friday and I doubt I will have my deposit by then.
        
        BartD  11:24 PM 03/19/13
        clemons no
        
        Todd Graham 11:25 PM 03/19/13
        i think the admin of this site should be looking into selling tshirts to make money.... I survived 8863 glitch 2013
        
        BartD  11:26 PM 03/19/13
        manually entered 4483c is flawed i confirmed it this morning system sees potential fraud id theft and kicks it out u verify and it goes back in the same system that just rejected it so now they have to manually enter them past error make postible and access for risk and generate a dd aafter
        
        Todd Graham 11:26 PM 03/19/13
        bet i know of 600,000 people that would buy one lol
        
        atom jim 11:26 PM 03/19/13
        bumper stickers 
        
        Quintell Moore 11:26 PM 03/19/13
        meeeee.lol
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:26 PM 03/19/13
        Todd; I would so buy a t-shirt. Not even kidding.
        
        BartD  11:27 PM 03/19/13
        graham i actually told them that
        
        Todd Graham 11:27 PM 03/19/13
        they would sell like hotcakes
        
        kimnscott05  11:27 PM 03/19/13
        i would totally buy one too!
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:27 PM 03/19/13
        how long can this take? so there is nothing I can do about it?
        
        BartD  11:27 PM 03/19/13
        i want a shirt that says i survived all the 8863 questions
        
        kimnscott05  11:27 PM 03/19/13
        LMAO
        
        Quintell Moore 11:27 PM 03/19/13
        too funny!!!
        
        kimnscott05  11:27 PM 03/19/13
        that would be hilarious
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        So since someone manually fixed my 8863, is it possible that I will get my refund before the transcripts are completed?
        
        Todd Graham 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        not our fault you are the computer master
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        I want one that says I survived the delay!
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        LOL
        
        crystallikes  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        my amount just disappeared today and got tax topic but my HRB date is still the same..any idea how much longer for me?
        
        Quintell Moore 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        right!!
        
        BartD  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        clemons  no manually fixed and manually entered are different
        
        kimnscott05  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        So, any ideas on whats goin on with my shiat? I havent been here the whole time so don't know if anyone has anything similar
        
        4464cwaiting  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        whats for us the 4464c filed early 1/23 hoh 8863 and eic
        
        BartD  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        manually fixed meansit goes back into processing
        
        4464cwaiting  11:28 PM 03/19/13
        still waiting
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:28 PM 03/19/13
        Our cell phone's the only thing that's been sacrificed... honestly I don't really miss it... but I can't call to bug the IRS now LOL
        
        BartD  11:29 PM 03/19/13
        if u have a smart phone u can get a text free account and call over the interent
        
        Todd Graham 11:29 PM 03/19/13
        see hes a genius
        
        BartD  11:29 PM 03/19/13
        no cell service needed
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:30 PM 03/19/13
        What is the average processing time? I'm just freaking out because my amount disappeared which I thought was a good thing and then reappeared and haven't been able to order transcripts.
        
        4464cwaiting  11:30 PM 03/19/13
        Bratd whats for the 4464c
        
        Todd Graham 11:30 PM 03/19/13
        Alicia is blowing you up bartd
        
        BartD  11:30 PM 03/19/13
        true processing time is total of 10 days anything past that is oh noooo
        
        fedup4883c  11:30 PM 03/19/13
        was just told by a rep that i went unpostable on 2/27 so my 8 weeks started then... i didnt know that. I still want to know what was the point of verifying if i am still in errors smh. and of course she doesnt know the answer to that!
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:30 PM 03/19/13
        So Bart... if out amount disappears with Tax Topic 152... is THAT when we should count 10 days from?
        
        Alicia Clemons 11:30 PM 03/19/13
        Sorry!!! I just can't questions elsewhere.
        
        BartD  11:30 PM 03/19/13
        4464c if there verifying something such as wages
        
        4464cwaiting  11:31 PM 03/19/13
        well my letter was dated 2/1 
        
        4464cwaiting  11:31 PM 03/19/13
        im still waiting 
        
        BartD  11:31 PM 03/19/13
        topic 152 is gone
        
        4464cwaiting  11:31 PM 03/19/13
        60days will be up on april 1st
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:31 PM 03/19/13
        are you affiliated with gov.com?
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:31 PM 03/19/13
        topic 152 is there... but amount is gone
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:31 PM 03/19/13
        been like that since Friday
        
        BartD  11:32 PM 03/19/13
        than yes 10 days in normal frames of processing
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:32 PM 03/19/13
        cool... good to have a reference point LOL
        
        BartD  11:32 PM 03/19/13
        waiting than u will get it soon if no letter
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:32 PM 03/19/13
        Sorry, I'm sure you've answered that question a hundred times already
        
        crystallikes  11:32 PM 03/19/13
        thanks revillie..guess he only responds to you
        
        BartD  11:32 PM 03/19/13
        its ok'
        
        BartD  11:32 PM 03/19/13
        shhhhhhh
        
        BartD  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        i am trying
        
        BartD  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        Revillie Trenary 11:33 PM 03/19/13
        sorry crystal
        
        BartD  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        go ahead crystal
        
        BartD  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        everyone shhh crysal wants to talk now
        
        4464cwaiting  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        i hope bartd  as of today is not other letters coming
        
        4464cwaiting  11:33 PM 03/19/13
        kk
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:34 PM 03/19/13
        i don't know if you answered my question, so theres is no time period to when i will get my refund and there is nothing i can do about it at this time...is it just a wait game
        
        BartD  11:34 PM 03/19/13
        wait what happen to crystal
        
        BartD  11:34 PM 03/19/13
        asante yes u wait
        
        4464cwaiting  11:35 PM 03/19/13
        crystal ask your question girl
        
        crystallikes  11:35 PM 03/19/13
        lol...u just answered...was about the amount disappering and tax topic..thanks guys
        
        BartD  11:35 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        BartD  11:35 PM 03/19/13
        all that for nothing
        
        BartD  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        see this is y i need the shirt
        
        kimnscott05  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        wait! I didn't see the answer!!!
        
        Todd Graham 11:36 PM 03/19/13
        right
        
        4464cwaiting  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        ok bartd i should sit and wait for my 60 days to be over then??
        
        crystallikes  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        well it was helpful...got something to look forward to now
        
        BartD  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        whats ur question
        
        Kelli C 11:36 PM 03/19/13
        So when your amount disappears is the only indication of a DDD coming. Mine has never disappeared as of yet. is that what I should be looking for
        
        Jen B 11:36 PM 03/19/13
        mine never disappeared
        
        Jen B 11:36 PM 03/19/13
        and i got a dd
        
        kimnscott05  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        whats up with 152 n no amount lol
        
        mommy4585  11:36 PM 03/19/13
        ok im back and still on hold
        
        Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
        Thanks Jen B
        
        BartD  11:37 PM 03/19/13
        right  never disappear is the best
        
        Jen B 11:37 PM 03/19/13
        mine stayed "ghosting" the whole time. No transcripts nothing then bam woke up with 2 orange bars.
        
        Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
        Ok cool thank you
        
        Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
        was getting concerned
        
        kimnscott05  11:37 PM 03/19/13
        never disappear would be great but...
        
        Kelli C 11:37 PM 03/19/13
        What does the term ghosting mean I see on here all the time
        
        kimnscott05  11:37 PM 03/19/13
        most of ours did lol
        
        BartD  11:37 PM 03/19/13
        kimn means ur in processing
        
        crystallikes  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        aww man..it disapeared
        
        BartD  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        or errors
        
        kimnscott05  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        ok thanks
        
        mommy4585  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        my amount never disappeared just the bars
        
        BartD  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        that's ok 2
        
        kimnscott05  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        i have called a milliion times and got different answers every time
        
        4464cwaiting  11:38 PM 03/19/13
        well my account transcript come blank as 3/18 and i received then on 3/1
        
        BartD  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        waiting blank means nothing to report
        
        4464cwaiting  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        amount never disappeared
        
        BartD  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        ok stop
        
        4464cwaiting  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        kk
        
        kimnscott05  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        ok go lol
        
        BartD  11:39 PM 03/19/13
        AMOUNT NOT DISPEARING AND UR IN ERRORS MEANS UR NOT BEING LOOKED AT YET
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        Bartd; I had called and confirmed with 2 separate reps that there were no errors with my return. Today 152 popped up and my amount disappeared so if I'm reading everything right then chances are I'm back in processing?
        
        4464cwaiting  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        oooooooooooooooooo 
        
        kimnscott05  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        oooooooooo
        
        kimnscott05  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        ok, i feel better now lol
        
        crystallikes  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        sounds good to me
        
        4464cwaiting  11:40 PM 03/19/13
        wtf when they going to start to look at mine because my 60 days are up in 11 days
        
        Todd Graham 11:41 PM 03/19/13
        waiting is mad
        
        BartD  11:41 PM 03/19/13
        krysty is an example amount went buh bye that means she is or was n erorrs and was looked at and is now in the stage to get to normal processing
        
        BartD  11:41 PM 03/19/13
        4464 they can send another letter or just release it
        
        4464cwaiting  11:42 PM 03/19/13
        no more letters PLEASEEE
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:42 PM 03/19/13
        Bartd; Thanks for your time, and so it should hopefully be smooth sailing from here on out?
        
        4464cwaiting  11:42 PM 03/19/13
        Yes thank you bartd
        
        Tracy Becker 11:43 PM 03/19/13
        two timing again todd??
        
        crystallikes  11:43 PM 03/19/13
        thanks Bartd..all the way from Memphis ..lol
        
        4464cwaiting  11:43 PM 03/19/13
        haha thanks all the way from worcester Massachusetts lol
        
        BartD  11:43 PM 03/19/13
        welcome
        
        Krysty Rayski  11:44 PM 03/19/13
        Thank you again from Chi-city!
        
        BartD  11:44 PM 03/19/13
        welcome
        
        kimnscott05  11:44 PM 03/19/13
        are you going to be on later this week so we can tell you our updates?
        
        mommy4585  11:44 PM 03/19/13
        ok i hung up i think ill wait till closer to 7 my time and call back
        
        Tracy Becker 11:45 PM 03/19/13
        i was just glad to see my wmr change today
        
        BartD  11:45 PM 03/19/13
        kimn tomorrow and ofcourse friday
        
        kimnscott05  11:45 PM 03/19/13
        ok awesome
        
        BartD  11:45 PM 03/19/13
        than next week ill be on Tuesday- 4/2
        
        Linda Gotkin 11:45 PM 03/19/13
        :) Thanks Bart!
        
        BartD  11:45 PM 03/19/13
        i am dedicated
        
        kimnscott05  11:46 PM 03/19/13
        who are you and how do you know all of this stuff anyway? lol
        
        crystallikes  11:46 PM 03/19/13
        you are our sokesperson :)
        
        fedup4883c  11:46 PM 03/19/13
        so when u verify your 4883c and the say they released ur hold and u will go back to processing how true is that? because i am still in unpostable error
        
        crystallikes  11:46 PM 03/19/13
        oops...spokesperson..the p got stuck
        
        BartD  11:46 PM 03/19/13
        Last year we had a user named Kelly that shared her thoughts on the tax season and created a following of her own. This year we have a user BartD who has created a following of his own?which we support! Who is Bart? According to Bart he has a masters in computer engineering and computer programming and helped build the software and processing system you all are complaining about! So share your thoughts and questions for him here!
        
        Always remember, the information we provide is purely speculative. We derive our information from personal experiences and comments made in our chat rooms and forums. We attempt to maintain the most relevant and accurate information available. However, we are neither responsible for false information nor the timeliness of refund status and delivery
        
        kimnscott05  11:47 PM 03/19/13
        ok nifty
        
        BartD  11:47 PM 03/19/13
        that answers that copy and paste
        
        kimnscott05  11:47 PM 03/19/13
        thank you
        
        kimnscott05  11:47 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        fedup4883c  11:47 PM 03/19/13
        so when u verify your 4883c and the say they released ur hold and u will go back to processing how true is that? because i am still in unpostable error
        
        mamaof4  11:48 PM 03/19/13
        fedup i am unpostable but it closed and i am back in normal processing and they told me it would be 6 weeks for processing
        
        BartD  11:49 PM 03/19/13
        when i am not on chat u may post on https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts and i will slowly get to them tomorrow but i will be bussy and if i don't answer than just keep trying either in chat or in timeline on that page i wont be mad iff u ask 100 times somethings i am just going to miss
        
        fedup4883c  11:49 PM 03/19/13
        mamaof4 how long after u verified did urs close?
        
        BartD  11:49 PM 03/19/13
        mama yes cause earlier i stated all 4483c are manaually entered 
        
        mamaof4  11:49 PM 03/19/13
        i didnt have to verify anything...i got nothing
        
        mamaof4  11:50 PM 03/19/13
        it was due to not filing the FTHBC form
        
        BartD  11:50 PM 03/19/13
        mama oh u were upostiable got another reason that's right
        
        BartD  11:50 PM 03/19/13
        u should be done soon
        
        mamaof4  11:50 PM 03/19/13
        i was in hopes for 10 days
        
        BartD  11:50 PM 03/19/13
        might be slower cause u lose some money
        
        BartD  11:51 PM 03/19/13
        that has to post before the return post
        
        Ginger Barnes 11:51 PM 03/19/13
        what does it mean if you have tax topic 152 and amount gone?
        
        mamaof4  11:51 PM 03/19/13
        oh ok
        
        Todd Graham 11:51 PM 03/19/13
        oh boy
        
        fedup4883c  11:51 PM 03/19/13
        so bartd when they tell you they released the hold after verified u aare really just waiting for someone to really release it manually?
        
        kimnscott05  11:51 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 11:51 PM 03/19/13
        bet you are sick of that one bart
        
        Tracy Becker 11:51 PM 03/19/13
        lmao todd
        
        fedup4883c  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        lol at Todd
        
        Todd Graham 11:52 PM 03/19/13
        it means you are processing 
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        graham yeah that i must say goto my page and search for it
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        the answer is there 10000 timed
        
        kimnscott05  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        he should just have a seperate page that he can copy and post when he gets multiples of the same question
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        times
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        i have that
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        it was the page i sent
        
        kimnscott05  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 11:52 PM 03/19/13
        your doing a great job bart
        
        BartD  11:52 PM 03/19/13
        https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
        
        BartD  11:53 PM 03/19/13
        https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
        
        kimnscott05  11:53 PM 03/19/13
        https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts
        
        kimnscott05  11:53 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        BartD  11:53 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 11:53 PM 03/19/13
        hey im building a curriculum at work, how good are you with word lol
        
        Sean  Jeane 11:53 PM 03/19/13
        https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts lol
        
        BartD  11:53 PM 03/19/13
        what are u building it for
        
        Brown_Bear  11:54 PM 03/19/13
        @Todd, NICE!! Get tax help AND tech support!!
        
        Todd Graham 11:54 PM 03/19/13
        im in the military, at the school all the new people come to after boot camp to learn their jobs, have to build a new one for my job, so sick of the damn program we use
        
        BartD  11:54 PM 03/19/13
        bear lol
        
        Brown_Bear  11:54 PM 03/19/13
        thats what I call killing two birds with one stone
        
        Brown_Bear  11:54 PM 03/19/13
        :-)
        
        Todd Graham 11:54 PM 03/19/13
        you familiar with citrex
        
        Brown_Bear  11:55 PM 03/19/13
        Citrix
        
        Brown_Bear  11:55 PM 03/19/13
        ?
        
        Todd Graham 11:55 PM 03/19/13
        maybe....not sure how to spell it, but its a pain in my a s s 
        
        Brown_Bear  11:55 PM 03/19/13
        HAHA, thats the one!
        
        Todd Graham 11:55 PM 03/19/13
        makes me wanna jump off a building
        
        Sean  Jeane 11:56 PM 03/19/13
        kind of a mobile work site??
        
        Todd Graham 11:56 PM 03/19/13
        AIM is what we use
        
        Brown_Bear  11:56 PM 03/19/13
        I'm not good with Citrix, but it can be very cumbersome
        
        Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        its can be a complete pain in the A S S
        
        BartD  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        citrix systems?
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        i use citrix for work
        
        BartD  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        yeah citrix is part of the irs
        
        Brown_Bear  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        We went from taxes, to Word, to Citrix
        
        Brown_Bear  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        :-)
        
        Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        that explains it all
        
        Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        Brown_Bear  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
        
        Asante Shelthia 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        its part of ATT too
        
        Todd Graham 11:57 PM 03/19/13
        now i completely understand the problem
        
        BartD  11:57 PM 03/19/13
        lol
        
        SueL  11:58 PM 03/19/13
        we use Citrix for Electronic Medical Records...very complicated
        
        Todd Graham 11:58 PM 03/19/13
        bart thanks for the help, im sure im not the only one that really appreciates it
        
        BartD  11:59 PM 03/19/13
        suel lots of people use the same thing ur irs reps use and banks use
        
        Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
        wow i never realized how many people have to deal with that supid system
        
        BartD  11:59 PM 03/19/13
        ur welcoem
        
        mamaof4  11:59 PM 03/19/13
        I have had more answers today than i have since 1/30
        
        SueL  11:59 PM 03/19/13
        That's interesting, I was in education before and had never heard of it...
        
        Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
        im a jet engine mechanic....if it doesnt work i hit it with a hammer.....im on my third computer......
        
        Todd Graham 11:59 PM 03/19/13
        this week
        
        BartD  12:00 AM 03/20/13
        lololol
        
        SueL  12:00 AM 03/20/13
        Todd..lol
        
        BartD  12:00 AM 03/20/13
        and there is ur system glitch
        
        SueL  12:00 AM 03/20/13
        the hammer or Citrix :)
        
        Todd Graham 12:00 AM 03/20/13
        explains why my curriculum has been put into errors
        
        Brown_Bear  12:00 AM 03/20/13
        @BartD, are you in IT?
        
        Todd Graham 12:01 AM 03/20/13
        barts a genius
        
        Brown_Bear  12:01 AM 03/20/13
        I have heard his name many times on this site, LOL
        
        BartD  12:01 AM 03/20/13
        I hAVE 2 OH NOOOO WHAT HAVE I DONE
        
        BartD  12:02 AM 03/20/13
        brear yes and no
        
        BartD  12:02 AM 03/20/13
        I am self contracted with irs and apple
        
        Brown_Bear  12:02 AM 03/20/13
        oh ok, cool
        
        BartD  12:02 AM 03/20/13
        not always vcool
        
        SueL  12:02 AM 03/20/13
        Hey Bart can you jump over to your "board" and ask the question that Mr Give Up asked
        
        Todd Graham 12:02 AM 03/20/13
        this reminds me of bart answering the tax topic question
        
        Todd Graham 12:03 AM 03/20/13
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68
        
        BartD  12:03 AM 03/20/13
        doing it now
        
        Todd Graham 12:05 AM 03/20/13
        please tell me you watched that video
        
        mommy4585  12:06 AM 03/20/13
        Uggg this is so frustrating.....i still cant get on WMR
        
        BartD  12:07 AM 03/20/13
        ok answered
        
        Todd Graham 12:08 AM 03/20/13
        bart make sure you check out that video....and think of the tax topic 152 question when you watch it
        
        SueL  12:09 AM 03/20/13
        Thanks Bart, I answered but you have much more clout than me :)
        
        BartD  12:09 AM 03/20/13
        lol go fuck urself
        
        BartD  12:09 AM 03/20/13
        that was great'
        
        BartD  12:09 AM 03/20/13
        that's my new response
        
        Todd Graham 12:09 AM 03/20/13
        hahahaha
        
        BartD  12:10 AM 03/20/13
        funny funny
        
        Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
        im kind of the chat room clown
        
        Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
        ask any of the people that have been on here with me
        
        Todd Graham 12:10 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Tracy Becker 12:10 AM 03/20/13
        kind of??? lol
        
        Chris Henson 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        so, is there a specific reason why i cant access WMR...said couldnt verify my info on attempt 1...i c alot of people having that problem today
        
        Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        i try to lighten the mood of this whole thing, yeah it sucks, but cant get to bent out of shape on things you really have no control over
        
        Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        see look at what tracy said
        
        BartD  12:11 AM 03/20/13
        Henson refund amunt change??? that's the only reasomn
        
        Tracy Becker 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        i loved the comment about your wife and the double fisting of doughnuts
        
        lindsl2  12:11 AM 03/20/13
        BartD do you have any insight as to when the bulk of us 8863ers would likely have our refund considering that form is what is likely holding us up ? 
        
        Tracy Becker 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        Todd Graham 12:11 AM 03/20/13
        she ended up eating 3
        
        Chris Henson 12:12 AM 03/20/13
        it hasnt changed that i know of
        
        BartD  12:12 AM 03/20/13
         97 percent in in processing
        
        BartD  12:12 AM 03/20/13
        additional error or flags will cause more delay
        
        Todd Graham 12:12 AM 03/20/13
        oh snap....they are moving them through pretty quick then
        
        Gabriel Reilly 12:13 AM 03/20/13
        So I called IRS and they told me that I've been  in the Corrections Unit since last week and that I  should expect a letter?  WTH?  I thought I've been processing since the 9th... Bartd, do you have any idea what could be going on and the timeframe I may receive my return?
        
        BartD  12:13 AM 03/20/13
        and I confirmed that
        
        BartD  12:13 AM 03/20/13
        atleast that what they tell me so 97 means 89
        
        SueL  12:13 AM 03/20/13
        Please let me not be in that 3%....or 11%
        
        Todd Graham 12:14 AM 03/20/13
        im pretty sure if the irs looks at these posts, i will be the last one to get processed 
        
        lindsl2  12:14 AM 03/20/13
        Hi suel I am SL from before i forgot my password and had to reset it lol
        
        Tracy Becker 12:14 AM 03/20/13
        thats why we are moiving along and your are not lol
        
        Todd Graham 12:14 AM 03/20/13
        i hate you lol
        
        BartD  12:14 AM 03/20/13
        if u were in prcessing and now in corrects new error was found
        
        Tracy Becker 12:14 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        BartD  12:14 AM 03/20/13
        that could be 5-15 more days dlay to enter processing
        
        SueL  12:15 AM 03/20/13
        oh hey SL or lindsl2
        
        SueL  12:15 AM 03/20/13
        :)
        
        lindsl2  12:15 AM 03/20/13
        : )
        
        Todd Graham 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        one good thing about this website, i feel like ive made alot of new friends lol
        
        Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        this site and you todd have kept me from jumping off the roof or hanging myself with my shoe laces lol'
        
        Todd Graham 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        i will look forward to talking to all of you next year
        
        Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        thats true todd me too'
        
        Tracy Becker 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        omg lets not have another year like this i cant take it
        
        Kelli C 12:15 AM 03/20/13
        god I hope not no offense
        
        BartD  12:15 AM 03/20/13
        graham were not ur friends till u take us to dinner or bar
        
        lindsl2  12:16 AM 03/20/13
        lol from the looks of it we may still be waiting next year lol
        
        Gabriel Reilly 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        Thanks Bart...I can't seem to catch a break.  Maybe it will fix itself.
        
        Tracy Becker 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        but just seeing what everyone has been up to fo r a year
        
        Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        hahaha, not til i get my money fool
        
        SueL  12:16 AM 03/20/13
        Now Lindsl2 let's not be a negative Nelly...
        
        Tracy Becker 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        i agree with bart lol
        
        Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        uh oh do we have a negative nancy in the room
        
        Todd Graham 12:16 AM 03/20/13
        you would tracy
        
        BartD  12:16 AM 03/20/13
        that's when friends happen at the point u have money
        
        Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        its not me lol
        
        BartD  12:17 AM 03/20/13
        oh shit I forgot my wallet u got this right
        
        lindsl2  12:17 AM 03/20/13
        lolololol
        
        Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        thats what im saying, you all know im broke and you still like me lol
        
        Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        of course you would pull that on me todd
        
        Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        hell yeah
        
        BartD  12:17 AM 03/20/13
        no comment
        
        Todd Graham 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        thanks bart
        
        Tracy Becker 12:17 AM 03/20/13
        the old forgot my wallet trick
        
        Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        gotta get a girl to pay somehow
        
        Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        uh oh
        
        Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        i did it again
        
        BartD  12:18 AM 03/20/13
        lol could be worse could get the most expensive thing thn walk out
        
        Tracy Becker 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        i could see the old forgot it in the car and we dont see you ever again lol
        
        Tracy Becker 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        lol bart
        
        Todd Graham 12:18 AM 03/20/13
        lol....are you sure we havent met before lol
        
        BartD  12:19 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        BartD  12:19 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        lindsl2  12:19 AM 03/20/13
        so bart is it true if yournot able to order your  transcripts WMR wont update ?
        
        Tracy Becker 12:19 AM 03/20/13
        no just know a few men like that thankfully i never dated them tho lol]
        
        BartD  12:19 AM 03/20/13
        in 90 percent of cases 
        
        BartD  12:19 AM 03/20/13
        my 90 not irs 90
        
        Todd Graham 12:19 AM 03/20/13
        oh man, i cant get my transcripts yet
        
        Todd Graham 12:19 AM 03/20/13
        d amn
        
        Tracy Becker 12:19 AM 03/20/13
        so bart, what does it mean if 152 is there and no amount??  just joking
        
        BartD  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        the other 10 are those who are manually entered
        
        Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        lamo
        
        Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        Kelli C 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        uh yeah that sucks neither can i
        
        SueL  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        me either
        
        lindsl2  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        whats your 90?
        
        ma4pa  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        damn the transcripts
        
        Tracy Becker 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        thought you would like that todd
        
        Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        giver her the response bart
        
        BartD  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        percent
        
        Todd Graham 12:20 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa, when are you all making the tshirts
        
        BartD  12:20 AM 03/20/13
        irs percentage is always way over the truth mark
        
        BartD  12:21 AM 03/20/13
        9 out of 10 get there returns in 21 days
        
        BartD  12:21 AM 03/20/13
        no ass holes 7 out of 10 do
        
        Chris Henson 12:21 AM 03/20/13
        and what about ordering transcripts...everytime i try it says there is a technical problem
        
        ma4pa  12:21 AM 03/20/13
        we did have a tshirt store last year dont know for sure about this year
        
        Todd Graham 12:21 AM 03/20/13
        tracy asked the tax topic 152.....
        
        yvette63  12:21 AM 03/20/13
        So if you are a 4464c and don't get a letter after the 60 days, will they release your money or what?
        
        Todd Graham 12:21 AM 03/20/13
        yeah i told on you
        
        BartD  12:21 AM 03/20/13
        Henson technical promblem
        
        BartD  12:22 AM 03/20/13
        call the transcript hotline
        
        Tracy Becker 12:22 AM 03/20/13
        thanks todd
        
        BartD  12:22 AM 03/20/13
        yes
        
        BartD  12:22 AM 03/20/13
        they have to
        
        lindsl2  12:22 AM 03/20/13
        is the transcripts hotline different info
        
        essence white 12:22 AM 03/20/13
        awww man todd is here and i have to get off line. he is funny
        
        Todd Graham 12:22 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        BartD  12:22 AM 03/20/13
        no put if he is having technical issue the hotline is hardly ever down
        
        Todd Graham 12:22 AM 03/20/13
        this is a serious chat room.....lmao....i tried to keep a straight face
        
        Tracy Becker 12:22 AM 03/20/13
        dont blow up his ego now lol
        
        Todd Graham 12:23 AM 03/20/13
        tooooooooo late
        
        Tracy Becker 12:23 AM 03/20/13
        whatever lol
        
        BartD  12:23 AM 03/20/13
        omg
        
        BartD  12:23 AM 03/20/13
        graham how old are u
        
        Tracy Becker 12:23 AM 03/20/13
        hey we keepit light, or we would all be cryin
        
        Todd Graham 12:23 AM 03/20/13
        old enough to know better
        
        essence white 12:23 AM 03/20/13
        lmao.... ok quick question i was stalking the irs daily and i was told that alers an audit is that true. i only called once almost daily
        
        Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        32 going on 5
        
        BartD  12:24 AM 03/20/13
        not so much
        
        Tracy Becker 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        omg im older than you??? im going to bed
        
        Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        this is what 15 years in the navy will get you lol
        
        ma4pa  12:24 AM 03/20/13
        @essense no way
        
        essence white 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        bart was that for me
        
        Todd Graham 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        well yeah, geriatric bed time was 15 min ago
        
        BartD  12:24 AM 03/20/13
        yes no way
        
        Tracy Becker 12:24 AM 03/20/13
        that was low
        
        essence white 12:25 AM 03/20/13
        ok thanks i said mabe thats why its been 40 something days
        
        essence white 12:25 AM 03/20/13
        im not calling thiugh because my day is better when i dont
        
        ma4pa  12:25 AM 03/20/13
        its 40 day plus because of forms the dam n forms
        
        BartD  12:25 AM 03/20/13
        uip
        
        essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
        i have no ed credits
        
        BartD  12:26 AM 03/20/13
        yup
        
        ma4pa  12:26 AM 03/20/13
        EIC
        
        essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
        accepted 2/1 no letters got trans last month
        
        Tracy Becker 12:26 AM 03/20/13
        you have the most popular chat site going, prob cuz todds here
        
        essence white 12:26 AM 03/20/13
        yes
        
        ma4pa  12:26 AM 03/20/13
        okay there was a problem there too
        
        BartD  12:26 AM 03/20/13
        ur in errors of some kind
        
        essence white 12:27 AM 03/20/13
        oh ok... error aka screw her return lol
        
        ma4pa  12:27 AM 03/20/13
        dam n the errors
        
        Todd Graham 12:28 AM 03/20/13
        im being nice and letting bart handle essences's question
        
        Tracy Becker 12:28 AM 03/20/13
        LOL
        
        BartD  12:28 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa will no be answering all questions plese direct it there
        
        BartD  12:28 AM 03/20/13
        now
        
        Todd Graham 12:28 AM 03/20/13
        hahahaha
        
        BartD  12:29 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 12:29 AM 03/20/13
        talk about pawning it off
        
        Julie Parks 12:29 AM 03/20/13
        bart d i was able to order account transcript, then i received a 4464c letter and a few days later was able to order a return transcript. does that mean my return is done processing?
        
        essence white 12:29 AM 03/20/13
        thanks!!!!
        
        mommy4585  12:29 AM 03/20/13
        well im going to call again and hope that im not on hold for 45 min seeing as they close in 30 lol
        
        essence white 12:29 AM 03/20/13
        gn all
        
        Todd Graham 12:29 AM 03/20/13
        night
        
        BartD  12:30 AM 03/20/13
        4464c and order transcripts is 90 percent of the case because return posted flag master file sent to reviews
        
        ma4pa  12:30 AM 03/20/13
        will do
        
        lindsl2  12:30 AM 03/20/13
        So how accurate is the WMR tool anyhow ?
        
        Tracy Becker 12:31 AM 03/20/13
        night..hey wanna hear something funny? called my tax lady at HRB today and told her what was going on with my account. told her i called a few times and talked to rep, she said you talked to a human and didnt wait hours? what number are you calling? REALLY?? you are the tax professiona! I told her i didnt remember it lol
        
        Todd Graham 12:31 AM 03/20/13
        man who designed that da mn system
        
        BartD  12:31 AM 03/20/13
        10 percent accurate till its approved than 100 percent on the second bar
        
        BartD  12:32 AM 03/20/13
        opps
        
        lindsl2  12:32 AM 03/20/13
        well I need the dang 2nd bar
        
        BartD  12:32 AM 03/20/13
        ur talking to that man TODD
        
        Tracy Becker 12:33 AM 03/20/13
        lol got yourself in trouble i see
        
        SueL  12:33 AM 03/20/13
        lindsl2...I need any bars...none for me, would love to see the color orange and completely orange not just 1 bar
        
        BartD  12:33 AM 03/20/13
        THE SYSTEM IS BUGGED
        
        BartD  12:34 AM 03/20/13
        WONT BE FIXED TILL AFTER TAX YEAR
        
        lindsl2  12:34 AM 03/20/13
        haha let me rephrase I need anybars too lolol
        
        BartD  12:34 AM 03/20/13
        I am not sched to got back till 4/22
        
        Julie Parks 12:34 AM 03/20/13
        bartd so is the 4464c always sent out due to an issue with income reported and withheld? or could it be something else? my bars are also now gone and topic 152 and refund amount still showing
        
        BartD  12:35 AM 03/20/13
        yes and it wasn't even looked at yet
        
        mommy4585  12:35 AM 03/20/13
        on hold now saying greater then 15 minutes
        
        SueL  12:35 AM 03/20/13
        Bart, go tomorrow and fix it!!  and we'll all send you our info and you can fast track our refunds!
        
        BartD  12:35 AM 03/20/13
        lol I cant 
        
        mommy4585  12:35 AM 03/20/13
        sure you can that would be so awsome!!!!
        
        Todd Graham 12:35 AM 03/20/13
        i dont believe in the word cant
        
        BartD  12:36 AM 03/20/13
        i am 1 doing stuff for apple right now and 2 a contract is a contract i cant walk in a be like oh i came early to fix this
        
        Todd Graham 12:36 AM 03/20/13
        you can do anything you put your mind to
        
        Julie Parks 12:36 AM 03/20/13
        bartd thanks for the info. i will go to another tax professional to see if he can pick up what caused the 4464c so that I can ammend the return
        
        Todd Graham 12:36 AM 03/20/13
        can you go to hrb and put a virus on their system please
        
        mommy4585  12:36 AM 03/20/13
        Ok Bart let me as you this: Have YOU gotten your refund yet????
        
        BartD  12:37 AM 03/20/13
        i cant fly i tried no wings and not very aerodynamic 
        
        BartD  12:37 AM 03/20/13
        mommy 3/15 i did filed 2/1
        
        Todd Graham 12:37 AM 03/20/13
        hey thats the same day i filed
        
        Todd Graham 12:37 AM 03/20/13
        crap
        
        mommy4585  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i filled on 2/15
        
        lindsl2  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        NONO I got it Bart has all our refunds since he is the smart It guy and he wired it that way ...hmmmm lol
        
        SueL  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i filed on 2/14
        
        BartD  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i don't have EDU
        
        Tracy Becker 12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i filed 2/16
        
        BartD  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i had electric plug in
        
        Todd Graham 12:38 AM 03/20/13
        da mn my educated wife
        
        SueL  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        and it took you that long to get your refund Bart?
        
        mommy4585  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i have 2 kids
        
        BartD  12:38 AM 03/20/13
        i hsve no kids
        
        Christine Blumenschein 12:38 AM 03/20/13
        Does anyone know if WMR changes if you file an injured spouse form, or does it just stay at still processing will give a date when available?
        
        mommy4585  12:39 AM 03/20/13
        and i was in college up till the week before i had my baby and then went back till december
        
        Todd Graham 12:39 AM 03/20/13
        bart does....
        
        Tracy Becker 12:39 AM 03/20/13
        lol bart knows allllllll
        
        BartD  12:39 AM 03/20/13
        will stay until approved
        
        Todd Graham 12:39 AM 03/20/13
        told you
        
        mommy4585  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        now im thinking i shouldnt of taken the ed credit
        
        Tracy Becker 12:40 AM 03/20/13
        same here
        
        Resheen W  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        evening all
        
        Todd Graham 12:40 AM 03/20/13
        im thinking next year i will file my taxes without it and then ammend it
        
        Resheen W  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        i'm thinking I should have carried the maximum dependents all year
        
        lindsl2  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        I had a chance to ammend it but NOOO i decided it would only be another 2 weeks ...boy was I wrong !!
        
        BartD  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        mommy i would say lots of people agrree
        
        Tracy Becker 12:40 AM 03/20/13
        i hear ya there
        
        mommy4585  12:40 AM 03/20/13
        im not taking it next year even if i do go back
        
        lindsl2  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        i think next year I will just ammend it 
        
        Todd Graham 12:41 AM 03/20/13
        we got almost 4k extra with it
        
        BartD  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        it will be fixed than;
        
        mommy4585  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        we dont
        
        Todd Graham 12:41 AM 03/20/13
        i will wait 6 months for 4k
        
        SueL  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        I already changed my withholding so they don't get so much of my money every paycheck
        
        lindsl2  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        yeah we got 2K extra w it
        
        lindsl2  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        me too todd
        
        BartD  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        graham ill let them know to do ur last than'
        
        SueL  12:41 AM 03/20/13
        we got extra $2500 from it...or we will someday
        
        mommy4585  12:42 AM 03/20/13
        we get i think 1k extra this isnt worth it
        
        lindsl2  12:42 AM 03/20/13
        yeah thast it we will someday 
        
        lindsl2  12:42 AM 03/20/13
        totally not worth it 
        
        lindsl2  12:42 AM 03/20/13
        but when we finally do get it we will be happy
        
        mommy4585  12:42 AM 03/20/13
        my suv needs to go into the shop, my kids need clothes and we need a home to go to
        
        Todd Graham 12:42 AM 03/20/13
        sure it is, when you get that money finally, you can send me that 1k if you dont want it
        
        BartD  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        mommy did u ever call the irs like i said
        
        mommy4585  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        were trying to open a small business but we cant till we get the money and I told my husband that I was using the extra 1k
        
        mommy4585  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        im on hold now
        
        mommy4585  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        again
        
        BartD  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        ok
        
        BartD  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        want my prediction
        
        mommy4585  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        i was on hold for almost an hour last time so i hung up and decided to call back closer to closing time for me
        
        mommy4585  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        sure
        
        lindsl2  12:43 AM 03/20/13
        yes I need mine to buy a house everyday it doesn't get here it is that much longer 
        
        Tracy Becker 12:44 AM 03/20/13
        i got 2500 with it and NO TODD you cant have it
        
        mommy4585  12:44 AM 03/20/13
        My in laws are "evicting" us from there basement and they know we dont have the money right now to move as im not working 
        
        lindsl2  12:44 AM 03/20/13
        your inlaws must be knuckleheads
        
        Resheen W  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        @mommy are you serious
        
        mommy4585  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        yeah they are...i mean my kids are almost 3 and 7 months
        
        Resheen W  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        you're family
        
        mommy4585  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        yeah
        
        Resheen W  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        that's some bs
        
        lindsl2  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        something wrong with them people 
        
        BartD  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        i think 80 percent of u 8863 with no other erros will have a ddd in next 2 weeks others will get it soon 4463 u wont get urs till close to 5 weeks from verified and errors not related to that or under review u will get it when ever its done
        
        mommy4585  12:45 AM 03/20/13
        they want there home back we were suppose to move to TN so I could go to nursing school at the place my dad said was a great school ( he lives there) but with no money we cant
        
        mommy4585  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        Im a 4463er :(
        
        BartD  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        4463 i remember talkin to u earlier
        
        mommy4585  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        My daughter turns 3 April 5th and by now we normally have all her presents and have planed her party but now we dont know what were going to do
        
        mommy4585  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        yeah
        
        BartD  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        i think u will have a dd when u talk to someone
        
        mommy4585  12:46 AM 03/20/13
        I hope so
        
        BartD  12:47 AM 03/20/13
        if not def by the end of week
        
        lindsl2  12:47 AM 03/20/13
        mommy,I really hope you get your money soon honey 
        
        Resheen W  12:47 AM 03/20/13
        me too 
        
        lindsl2  12:47 AM 03/20/13
        BartD you R awesome !!
        
        BartD  12:47 AM 03/20/13
        thank u
        
        lindsl2  12:48 AM 03/20/13
        : )
        
        mommy4585  12:48 AM 03/20/13
        I mean we have a travel trailer but the heater doesnt work the water tank leaks so we cant live in there we as of right now were screwed....i should be packing but I just dont have the energy to do it....my husband was called back to his 2nd job (he does Chinese delvery) and the only reason I was able to call the IRS is because I begged them to watch my girls 
        
        BartD  12:48 AM 03/20/13
        actually mommy if u don't get a ddd by Friday i want to private chat with u  friday
        
        mommy4585  12:48 AM 03/20/13
        ok
        
        Resheen W  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        wth
        
        Resheen W  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        are u serious
        
        mommy4585  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        the only thing that I can think for getting the letter is because i worked more jobs making more money and i had a baby other then that everything else is the same
        
        Resheen W  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        that's crazy
        
        SueL  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        I feel so bad for you, I can't imagine they would kick you out
        
        BartD  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        resheen what
        
        lindsl2  12:49 AM 03/20/13
        well I am leaving now hope to see everyone with good news tommorrow for all !!
        
        Resheen W  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        I can't believe her in laws are treating her like that
        
        Resheen W  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        she has a kids
        
        mommy4585  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        me neither.....they origanly said that they would wait till the date tt said and the was the 8th well that has come and gone
        
        Resheen W  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        I wouldn't treat my enemy like that
        
        BartD  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        yeah its a ashame
        
        BartD  12:50 AM 03/20/13
        that's y i need to pull some strings for her'
        
        Resheen W  12:51 AM 03/20/13
        i have 4 kids and i'm a single parent i know that i need my money like everyone else, but i feel so bad for you
        
        mommy4585  12:51 AM 03/20/13
        *Origanlly....i take care of them...i do all the cooking and cleaning and the grocery shopping.....i put almost $700 in house of 8 and that $700 is suppose to be for me, my husband and our 2 kids
        
        SueL  12:51 AM 03/20/13
        night lindsl2...i won't get an update on wmr tonight so i will tty tomorrow
        
        mamaof4  12:51 AM 03/20/13
        mommy we had to live with my inlaws a long time ago and we they thre us out too soi know exactly how you feel
        
        mommy4585  12:52 AM 03/20/13
        we have been with them for 4 yrs now.....my father in law is in a wheel chair out of the house and crutches in the house and he falls all the time and my mother in law is useless
        
        BartD  12:52 AM 03/20/13
        oh can family kick someone out with kids its mskes me wanna puke
        
        Todd Graham 12:52 AM 03/20/13
        slash their tires
        
        mommy4585  12:52 AM 03/20/13
        they dont have a car
        
        mommy4585  12:52 AM 03/20/13
        were the ones that take them where they need to go
        
        Todd Graham 12:52 AM 03/20/13
        guess they are using their chevrolegs now
        
        Tracy Becker 12:53 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Resheen W  12:53 AM 03/20/13
        lmao @ Todd
        
        mommy4585  12:53 AM 03/20/13
        and to top it off my SUV needs a new transmission so if all of us want to go somewhere we have to take 2 trips and it sucks
        
        Tracy Becker 12:53 AM 03/20/13
        sounds about like my luck these days mommy
        
        mommy4585  12:53 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        mommy4585  12:54 AM 03/20/13
        I cant get a TA since they cant serve us with an eviction...they were told that since im there caretaker they cant legally evict us but they can still kick us out
        
        Resheen W  12:55 AM 03/20/13
        it seems like they need y'all more than u need them
        
        Shawnderrick Barnes 12:55 AM 03/20/13
        hi guys
        
        BartD  12:55 AM 03/20/13
        mommy u still waiting
        
        Tracy Becker 12:55 AM 03/20/13
        i just think that everything is changing very quickly the last few days for most 8863ers so lets keep it rollin..
        
        Shawnderrick Barnes 12:55 AM 03/20/13
        i checked wmr this morning and 152 came back and my refund total is no longfer there
        
        mommy4585  12:56 AM 03/20/13
        its been down since October...the only reason we were able to get another car is because a friend of ours let us make payments to to them and still have the car but held the pink slip till we paid it off...well we did at the end of october while i was still working
        
        mommy4585  12:56 AM 03/20/13
        yeah i am
        
        mommy4585  12:56 AM 03/20/13
        been 24 minutes now
        
        Todd Graham 12:56 AM 03/20/13
        why is it that everytime something like this happens, bad luck comes out, or things come up out of the norm
        
        Resheen W  12:57 AM 03/20/13
        ikr Todd
        
        Todd Graham 12:57 AM 03/20/13
        like i had us budgeted for this 2 weeks to have a little over $300 left after all bills and groceries were bought
        
        Todd Graham 12:57 AM 03/20/13
        and gas in the cars
        
        mommy4585  12:57 AM 03/20/13
        my gma keeps asking us to move out to Cali and I keep telling her that Im not moving back home ever but I would still come and visit when I could afford it
        
        BartD  12:57 AM 03/20/13
        i always say bad things happen in 3's
        
        mommy4585  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        you have more then we do...i think we have like $20 in the baml
        
        mommy4585  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        *bank
        
        Todd Graham 12:58 AM 03/20/13
        but out of know where i get hit with my annual termite inspection fee of $200
        
        Resheen W  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        @BartD pls don't say that
        
        BartD  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        sorry
        
        BartD  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        true
        
        Resheen W  12:58 AM 03/20/13
        i'm dodging bad luck right now besides this refund issue
        
        Tracy Becker 12:58 AM 03/20/13
        yeah bart dont pee on our wheaties
        
        BartD  12:59 AM 03/20/13
        might be small might be big
        
        BartD  12:59 AM 03/20/13
        but always in 3's
        
        Tracy Becker 12:59 AM 03/20/13
        u are in good with us dont pi ss off the natives lol
        
        mommy4585  12:59 AM 03/20/13
        yeah my husband gets tips but after we get diapers and everything we need were broke
        
        BartD  12:59 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        mommy4585  1:00 AM 03/20/13
        7 my time and still on hold
        
        Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 1:00 AM 03/20/13
        Hey Bart, I just got off the phone with the IRS and they told me my hold up was the 8863 and that they corrected it and I should be put back into processing and I should have my refund in 4 week. If I do not have my refund by then I should call them back. He also said that it should not take that long that that are told to say four weeks but I should see something within two week. Is this a script. 
        
        BartD  1:00 AM 03/20/13
        u think ur bad i created a system that caused millions of delays and i am trying to help so mine came im millions
        
        Todd Graham 1:00 AM 03/20/13
        lol, how do you sleep at night
        
        Resheen W  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        well bart i need you to make my bars go accepted and send..pls...and thank you  :)
        
        BartD  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        yes script but in ur case accurate
        
        BartD  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        graham make me feel worse
        
        mommy4585  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        i just got disconnected.....great
        
        BartD  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        mommy 9 p,
        
        Todd Graham 1:01 AM 03/20/13
        i dont blame you
        
        BartD  1:01 AM 03/20/13
        sorry
        
        mommy4585  1:02 AM 03/20/13
        im in denver
        
        BartD  1:02 AM 03/20/13
        u have to call tomorrow after wmr
        
        mommy4585  1:02 AM 03/20/13
        oh i will
        
        Todd Graham 1:02 AM 03/20/13
        i blame the lack of communication between the irs and hrb
        
        mommy4585  1:02 AM 03/20/13
        when my husband gets home around 1
        
        mommy4585  1:02 AM 03/20/13
        i used tt
        
        Todd Graham 1:02 AM 03/20/13
        you have more things going on though
        
        Resheen W  1:03 AM 03/20/13
        @Todd i blame my ex husband for being a fat bastard and filing my son, making me have to file a paper claim
        
        Todd Graham 1:03 AM 03/20/13
        unless it was your idea to put the Y/N in the blocks lol
        
        mamaof4  1:04 AM 03/20/13
        i cant blame anyone on mine...it was all me
        
        Resheen W  1:04 AM 03/20/13
        i just want my money 
        
        Resheen W  1:04 AM 03/20/13
        i would take my state at this point
        
        Todd Graham 1:05 AM 03/20/13
        i love the hrb facebook, those people are a bunch of whiny boo boo baby fkrs
        
        Resheen W  1:05 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
        regardless of how bad it is, there is nothing that can be done, so you will just drive yourself nuts if you sweat the stuff you have no control over
        
        Resheen W  1:06 AM 03/20/13
        exactly like checking wmr everyday knowing its not going to change
        
        Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
        be back, gotta go read to the kid
        
        Resheen W  1:06 AM 03/20/13
        lol the kid?
        
        Resheen W  1:06 AM 03/20/13
        really
        
        Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
        is the boy better
        
        Todd Graham 1:06 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Resheen W  1:06 AM 03/20/13
        haha
        
        BartD  1:06 AM 03/20/13
        he ment himself
        
        Resheen W  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        BartD  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        everyone poops
        
        ma4pa  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        POOP
        
        Resheen W  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        So BartD I see you're mr popular
        
        Resheen W  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        is this issue going to be resolve sooner rather than later
        
        BartD  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa u just randomly say poop
        
        SueL  1:07 AM 03/20/13
        I agree with no having any control over the situation and driving yourself crazy over it, I think that's what I am doing, I HATE not having control!
        
        ma4pa  1:08 AM 03/20/13
        its a gift
        
        BartD  1:08 AM 03/20/13
        yes it will be sooner than later
        
        Resheen W  1:08 AM 03/20/13
        its a waiting game i guess
        
        ma4pa  1:08 AM 03/20/13
        its the control factor no control I have NO CONTROL 
        
        ma4pa  1:09 AM 03/20/13
        I take medicine for it
        
        MoneyT  1:09 AM 03/20/13
        @BARTD on my acct transcript it has a processing date of 03/04/2013 what does that mean?
        
        SueL  1:09 AM 03/20/13
        Well everyone I am out for the night, I'll be back tomorrow to let you all know that I DIDN'T get an update on WMR
        
        Resheen W  1:09 AM 03/20/13
        lol @ sue
        
        BartD  1:09 AM 03/20/13
        money that means it was in processing since then
        
        BartD  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        suel i wont be on
        
        SueL  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        Bart, why not?
        
        BartD  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        but i am sure everyone will let me know on the timelione
        
        BartD  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        i have a lot of work to do
        
        SueL  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        yeah I shoudl probably work at work tomorrow and stay off here
        
        BartD  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        Friday is next day
        
        MoneyT  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        @BARTD i also have a cycle date of 20130705 what does that mean?
        
        SueL  1:10 AM 03/20/13
        night all
        
        Resheen W  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        night
        
        ma4pa  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        night
        
        BartD  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        2013 7 week 5 day means nothign
        
        Todd Graham 1:11 AM 03/20/13
        this is what i want to see
        
        Todd Graham 1:11 AM 03/20/13
        oh snap, i was told the 5 meant a day of the week
        
        ma4pa  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        I have been saying that since they started the whole cycle crap
        
        Resheen W  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        @Todd that book must have been 2 pages
        
        BartD  1:11 AM 03/20/13
        yup
        
        BartD  1:12 AM 03/20/13
        its crap
        
        Todd Graham 1:12 AM 03/20/13
        he has sooooo many books, and he picks the same ones all the time, so i kind of have them down now and really dont even have to read them anymore
        
        MoneyT  1:12 AM 03/20/13
        @BARTD do you know how long it takes to process since it's been processing since 03/04?
        
        BartD  1:13 AM 03/20/13
        should have processed unless u hit erorror again
        
        Resheen W  1:13 AM 03/20/13
        how do you know if you have errors if you never get a letter and the irs just tells you whatever to get you off the phone
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:14 AM 03/20/13
        yeah mine has been out of errors since 3/4 they said it has been processing since then.  Expect my refund last week of april????   REALLY??
        
        mommy4585  1:14 AM 03/20/13
        thats like i was able to order my return trans last night and then havent been able to get on WMR at all today so the only thing i can do is wait to check it in the morning and then call the IRS back....im still waiting on my account trans that i ordered thursday or friday 
        
        MoneyT  1:15 AM 03/20/13
        @BARTD I called last wk & they said it was in processing & if I don't have my refund by the end of the month then call them back. guess it's just a waiting game now..
        
        mommy4585  1:16 AM 03/20/13
        thats all it is for any of us
        
        Todd Graham 1:16 AM 03/20/13
        da mn still cant order transcripts
        
        Todd Graham 1:17 AM 03/20/13
        how sensitive is the transcript page when it comes to addresses
        
        BartD  1:17 AM 03/20/13
        money yes waiting
        
        mommy4585  1:17 AM 03/20/13
        i did mine at like 9 my time and im in denver
        
        mommy4585  1:17 AM 03/20/13
        i have to put it in the exact same way i did on my return
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:17 AM 03/20/13
        Hi  Bartd!  Sent you a text last night.  This morning my info changed to no amount and topic 152. Good thing?
        
        Todd Graham 1:17 AM 03/20/13
        i never know if i should spell out circle, or just put in cir
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        hahahahahaha there it is bartd
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        here is your chance
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        Bad question?
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        my lord
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        my lord
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        my lord
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        my lord
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        sorry, I'm new
        
        Jenn Morris 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        ok I am sure you might have answered this over and over again i filed 1/30 accepted again 2/14 had 8863 edu credit and 1 w2 a out of errors but being told they can not tell me what day i enter processing but was told i am processing any idea on when i can recieve a return
        
        Todd Graham 1:18 AM 03/20/13
        llmao
        
        mommy4585  1:19 AM 03/20/13
        when i did my return i put ave and not avenue if i spell it out it wont find it but it i us the abbreviation it will find it
        
        Todd Graham 1:19 AM 03/20/13
        just an inside joke cindy
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:19 AM 03/20/13
        No problem :)
        
        ma4pa  1:19 AM 03/20/13
        Todd ??
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:20 AM 03/20/13
        so no answer?
        
        BartD  1:21 AM 03/20/13
        morris 10 days form date of reprocessing 
        
        Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68
        
        Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
        watch that ma4pa
        
        Todd Graham 1:21 AM 03/20/13
        and think of that tax topic 152 question 
        
        ma4pa  1:21 AM 03/20/13
        @cindy yes its a good thing possible ddd in 1-5 days
        
        Jenn Morris 1:22 AM 03/20/13
        ok how do i know the processing date if they will not give it to me
        
        Todd Graham 1:22 AM 03/20/13
        i told bart to watch it earlier because that has to be the #1 question asked
        
        ma4pa  1:22 AM 03/20/13
        do you have it in for me Todd 
        
        Todd Graham 1:22 AM 03/20/13
        why
        
        ma4pa  1:22 AM 03/20/13
        LOL
        
        Tracy Becker 1:22 AM 03/20/13
        lmao that question will never die
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:22 AM 03/20/13
        thank you Ma :).  It's been a long time.  Sorry if I'm asking a question everyone else has :(
        
        mommy4585  1:22 AM 03/20/13
        great now my almost 3 yr old just said "oh shit"
        
        mommy4585  1:22 AM 03/20/13
        S**t
        
        Todd Graham 1:23 AM 03/20/13
        not your fault cindy, not picking on you, its just the #1 question asked
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:23 AM 03/20/13
        just praying for the end of this nightmare
        
        ma4pa  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        your welcome sweetie hope you get your refund soon
        
        ma4pa  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        shots 
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        10 day from reprocessing??  Says who?  
        
        BartD  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        ME
        
        ma4pa  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        everytime someone asks that question???
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:23 AM 03/20/13
        i have been back in processind as of 3/4
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:23 AM 03/20/13
         well maybe that is a good thing.  Means things are being fixed :)
        
        Todd Graham 1:23 AM 03/20/13
        yes
        
        Todd Graham 1:24 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa just watch that video, it will all be clear
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:24 AM 03/20/13
        and still no transcripts, no wmr changes
        
        Tracy Becker 1:24 AM 03/20/13
        lmao mommy over the kid sayin  s hit
        
        ma4pa  1:24 AM 03/20/13
        dam n todd I dont have time for a video 
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:24 AM 03/20/13
        good God!  Glad I didn't play if it has been that bad! :)
        
        BartD  1:24 AM 03/20/13
        3/4  back i processing u went out at some point or were reviewed for somthing
        
        ma4pa  1:24 AM 03/20/13
        okay brb
        
        mommy4585  1:24 AM 03/20/13
        yeah that means my husband gets to put all his change in her piggy bank....she only hears it from him
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        good luck everyone!!!  I'll keep everyone updated :)
        
        Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        bye cindy
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:25 AM 03/20/13
        i was in for 8863, the homebuyer credit.  out and started reprocessing on 3/4 according to 4 diff agents
        
        Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        im out for the night later all...check back in the am
        
        Cindy Hindle 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        bye!!  Happy drinking!!! :)
        
        Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        todd...behave
        
        Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        you know me
        
        A L 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        I fille 1/27 had 8863 and EIC had to wait until 2/14 to submit. Tx preparer satted accepted 2/15. Was in errrors department until 2/23 (supposed. ly) No changes but the generic your return is being processed blah blah blah. Was able to check WMR until like 2 or 3 when I was not able to check stated It could not find me. When do you think I would receive any news?
        
        Tracy Becker 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        exactly lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:25 AM 03/20/13
        problem is......im sober
        
        Tracy Becker 1:26 AM 03/20/13
        same here :(
        
        Todd Graham 1:26 AM 03/20/13
        i only get worse when i drink
        
        Tracy Becker 1:26 AM 03/20/13
        omg thats awesome
        
        BartD  1:26 AM 03/20/13
        mp4pa will answer any topic 152 questions for now on
        
        mommy4585  1:26 AM 03/20/13
        if i had the money to get one I so would right now oh wait my kids are still up so i would have to wait till they went to bed
        
        Todd Graham 1:26 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        Tracy Becker 1:27 AM 03/20/13
        i gotta go im tired of talking and hearing about 152 lol
        
        BartD  1:27 AM 03/20/13
        its set in stone
        
        Todd Graham 1:27 AM 03/20/13
        you know ma4pa is watching that video right now right bart
        
        ma4pa  1:27 AM 03/20/13
        LMAo
        
        BartD  1:27 AM 03/20/13
        yeah i know 
        
        ma4pa  1:27 AM 03/20/13
        I mean big O
        
        Todd Graham 1:27 AM 03/20/13
        fitting right
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:27 AM 03/20/13
        who gives a C about tax topic 152  had that for WELL over a month, means nothing
        
        Todd Graham 1:28 AM 03/20/13
        oh boy
        
        Todd Graham 1:28 AM 03/20/13
        tired is angry
        
        A L 1:28 AM 03/20/13
        @BartD: I fille 1/27 had 8863 and EIC had to wait until 2/14 to submit. Tx preparer satted accepted 2/15. Was in errrors department until 2/23 (supposed. ly) No changes but the generic your return is being processed blah blah blah. Was able to check WMR until like 2 or 3 when I was not able to check stated It could not find me. When do you think I would receive any news?
        
        mommy4585  1:28 AM 03/20/13
        its been on mine since day 1
        
        BartD  1:28 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa answer the topic statement pesdr
        
        BartD  1:28 AM 03/20/13
        plz
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:28 AM 03/20/13
        all the agents said it is just generic and means nothing
        
        Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
        LMAO
        
        Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
        do it
        
        Todd Graham 1:29 AM 03/20/13
        i will do it if you want me to do it, im not professional at all
        
        ma4pa  1:29 AM 03/20/13
        I know thats right Todd
        
        Todd Graham 1:30 AM 03/20/13
        i have to be professional at work, this is my time to unwind
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:30 AM 03/20/13
        been on this site for 2 months, lol.  it's all the same junk...and more and more people I have been on here with disappear....  hmmmph
        
        BartD  1:30 AM 03/20/13
        a l u should have already i would call u have another issue
        
        Jenn Morris 1:31 AM 03/20/13
        someone said there is a BIG update tonight is this right or no
        
        ma4pa  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        I will answer that question but I get to take a shot when I do
        
        Todd Graham 1:31 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        there is no rhyme or reason to anything the irs is doing.  ppl say i got my transcript then got a ddd the next few days.  I have 4 friends who got their REFUND but still can not get transcripts or FAFSA transfer
        
        BartD  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        damn that's a good idea
        
        mommy4585  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        when does wmr update?? like between when and when?
        
        Todd Graham 1:31 AM 03/20/13
        you are going to be hammered
        
        BartD  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        12-3
        
        ma4pa  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        Yes sometimes the WMR does a big dump on Wed
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:31 AM 03/20/13
        Yup, hitting the patron and JD now
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:32 AM 03/20/13
        I bet it takes a dump 
        
        Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
        thats horribel
        
        BartD  1:32 AM 03/20/13
        im going to take a shot for every topic 152
        
        ma4pa  1:32 AM 03/20/13
        I bet it takes a bigdump
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:32 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
        poop
        
        A L 1:32 AM 03/20/13
        I have called and been told there is no issue just waiting to be processed to wait at first it was 2 weeks now is 4 weeks.
        
        BartD  1:32 AM 03/20/13
        lol the system is always in a dump mode
        
        Todd Graham 1:32 AM 03/20/13
        he called the s h i t....poop
        
        ma4pa  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        I know bart always about the dump with them
        
        mommy4585  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa you must of had a lot of shots by now lol
        
        mommy4585  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        when does wmr update? like between when and when?
        
        Jenn Morris 1:33 AM 03/20/13
        So Bart would you like us to ask about topic 152 on purpose than
        
        ma4pa  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        I havent even begun
        
        mommy4585  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        ahh ok lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:33 AM 03/20/13
        so whats up the with tax topic 152 again
        
        BartD  1:33 AM 03/20/13
        AL there is an issue with ur return they just don't see it in coding yet
        
        KariSaysIt  1:34 AM 03/20/13
        Bart, I talked to a rep yesterday that said I had been put back into processing yesterday and if wmr had not updated by friday to call, does this sound legit. said i should have refund by a week from friday, checked my return for additional errors she said (actually read to me from it)
        
        BartD  1:34 AM 03/20/13
        oh god ma4pa who gave u permission to drink
        
        ma4pa  1:34 AM 03/20/13
        I dont know when it updates all they ever say is usually overnight
        
        mommy4585  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        ok
        
        BartD  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        I SAID 12 to 3
        
        BartD  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        AM
        
        Todd Graham 1:35 AM 03/20/13
        bart was it you that said it updates for like 3 hours throughout the night
        
        A L 1:35 AM 03/20/13
        thanks :/
        
        mommy4585  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        est???
        
        Todd Graham 1:35 AM 03/20/13
        well answers my question
        
        ma4pa  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        oh crap forgot to ask for permisson,,,,BART can I dring
        
        ma4pa  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        opps drink
        
        BartD  1:35 AM 03/20/13
        no 
        
        KariSaysIt  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        and is ordering transcripts real time or is it updated nightly like wmr?
        
        mommy4585  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        BartD  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        no with out me
        
        Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
        i asked ma4pa to change the name to green the other day, wont do it for me
        
        BartD  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        yes estern
        
        mommy4585  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        ok
        
        ma4pa  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        my powers are limited
        
        ma4pa  1:36 AM 03/20/13
        I'm limited
        
        Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
        that sucks
        
        Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
        bart override that system and make it green
        
        Todd Graham 1:36 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Lindsay Giedosh 1:37 AM 03/20/13
        i was told to ask u about the hrb acceptance date changing do you know what it means i filed in office on 1/19 accepted 1/30 had form 8863 got a 12c letter send in proper info i did fax it although was told by irs and hrb i didnt have to but i didnt trust if i didnt i wouldnt see my refund yesterday i happened to check hrb refund status and saw my acceptance date is now 3/18 do u have any info i called hrb they said irs sends them a message of updates but what is updated sounds like its prolonging things more im stressed
        
        ma4pa  1:37 AM 03/20/13
        LOL
        
        BartD  1:37 AM 03/20/13
        i tell everyone to wait till 4 am est time to checl
        
        ma4pa  1:37 AM 03/20/13
        oh sh it a novel
        
        Todd Graham 1:37 AM 03/20/13
        hahahahaha you are hitting the bottle arent you ma
        
        BartD  1:37 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa answer that 2
        
        Todd Graham 1:38 AM 03/20/13
        means you are back in processing 
        
        BartD  1:38 AM 03/20/13
        giedosh ur back in normal processing somewhere between 3/14 to 3/18 and give it about 10 days
        
        ma4pa  1:38 AM 03/20/13
        Does you status on the wmr have the 152 tax topic
        
        BartD  1:39 AM 03/20/13
        omg
        
        BartD  1:39 AM 03/20/13
        stfu
        
        Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
        go fuk yourself
        
        Todd Graham 1:39 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        BartD  1:39 AM 03/20/13
        llol
        
        ma4pa  1:40 AM 03/20/13
        okay i am no help
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        too many shots
        
        KariSaysIt  1:40 AM 03/20/13
        good luck to everyone, hope you get your refunds soon.
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        night kari
        
        BartD  1:40 AM 03/20/13
        no ur a pro at topic 152 i need u here 
        
        BartD  1:40 AM 03/20/13
        and hrb updates
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        messed up the hrb update though
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        asked about tax topic 152
        
        Todd Graham 1:40 AM 03/20/13
        shot
        
        8863erinhell  1:41 AM 03/20/13
        oh how I long to see tax topic 152.. and no amount...lol
        
        BartD  1:41 AM 03/20/13
        that's ok sktill learning
        
        Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa
        
        Lindsay Giedosh 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        thank you i was referred to u figured u would b helpful and ys u were
        
        Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        shot
        
        BartD  1:41 AM 03/20/13
        no problem
        
        Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        8863er said 152
        
        Lindsay Giedosh 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        thank u too ma4pa
        
        Todd Graham 1:41 AM 03/20/13
        i think that number should be put on the cuss word list
        
        BartD  1:41 AM 03/20/13
        yes ma4pa thank u
        
        flwrkr  1:42 AM 03/20/13
        hello BartD, question,4883c verified 2/18 been told processing since actually waiting for a real person to approve it,how long do you think,i was told 4/22
        
        Lindsay Giedosh 1:42 AM 03/20/13
        oh yea thanks too todd
        
        8863erinhell  1:42 AM 03/20/13
        lol y is that Todd?
        
        Todd Graham 1:42 AM 03/20/13
        i got tax topic *** back
        
        BartD  1:42 AM 03/20/13
        yeah topic 6969
        
        BartD  1:42 AM 03/20/13
        or topic666
        
        Todd Graham 1:43 AM 03/20/13
        i think ma4pa fell out of the computer chari
        
        Todd Graham 1:43 AM 03/20/13
        chair
        
        BartD  1:43 AM 03/20/13
        flwrkr 5 weeks after verified
        
        BartD  1:43 AM 03/20/13
        yeah me 2
        
        Melja3  1:44 AM 03/20/13
        I had topic 152 through all of this.. That and my refund amount. I did lose 152 a few days ago for less than a day
        
        flwrkr  1:44 AM 03/20/13
        ty
        
        ma4pa  1:44 AM 03/20/13
        hells to the yeaaaa
        
        Todd Graham 1:44 AM 03/20/13
        shot
        
        Todd Graham 1:44 AM 03/20/13
        bart ma4pa is going to be hammered
        
        Todd Graham 1:45 AM 03/20/13
        that one said it 2 times
        
        BartD  1:45 AM 03/20/13
        i am formally taking topic 152 off wmr next year
        
        ma4pa  1:45 AM 03/20/13
        too legit to quit hammer time
        
        Todd Graham 1:45 AM 03/20/13
        lmao
        
        mommy4585  1:45 AM 03/20/13
        my tax topic 152 has been there since day one!
        
        mommy4585  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        sorry ma4pa i had to take this one for me!
        
        BartD  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        i am changing the processing bars
        
        ma4pa  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        it has for many mommy4585
        
        8863erinhell  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        I take it topic 1fuckety2 is a no so nice subject???
        
        ma4pa  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        the bars suck
        
        Tasha Brown Ferguson 1:46 AM 03/20/13
        how much interest does irs pay if you get your refund after 4/15
        
        mommy4585  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        its about your refund options thats what mine said when i clicked it
        
        ma4pa  1:46 AM 03/20/13
        very little
        
        BartD  1:47 AM 03/20/13
        first 3 bars the same if in errors its going to say shit son ur screwed with out the lube
        
        mommy4585  1:47 AM 03/20/13
        it talks about dd check the card blah blah blah
        
        ma4pa  1:47 AM 03/20/13
        someone on the feed was saying if you cant check the wmr you are in review
        
        Todd Graham 1:48 AM 03/20/13
        lmao....my wife is cracking up right now 
        
        BartD  1:48 AM 03/20/13
        almost no interst
        
        ma4pa  1:48 AM 03/20/13
        Hello Mrs Graham
        
        8863erinhell  1:48 AM 03/20/13
        lol I was just gonna say... Bart you should just say on the bars GET LUBE NOW!!!
        
        ma4pa  1:48 AM 03/20/13
        I think I meet you the other night
        
        Todd Graham 1:49 AM 03/20/13
        lol....she just smiled
        
        BartD  1:49 AM 03/20/13
        lol yup
        
        8863erinhell  1:49 AM 03/20/13
        1 =bet lube 2=get kneee pads ETC.
        
        Tasha Brown Ferguson 1:49 AM 03/20/13
        i'll be glad when this is over.....i did lose 10lbs
        
        Todd Graham 1:49 AM 03/20/13
        she thinks im crazy, i just start randomly start laughing and she goes what is going on there now
        
        Candice Witherspoon 1:49 AM 03/20/13
        hey bart....I am Candice and this is my situation. I filed on the 14th of feb and was accepted on the 15th. I checked my wmr every day for a week and a half and finally i decided to call the irs and was told they mailed me a letter on the 20th of feb which i have yet to receive. they even said it was a 4464c letter and wait 60 days and call back and hung up on me...........i order transcript on the 6th of march with cycle date of 20131003 and processing date of 3/25. I called again the next day and was told the same thing about a letter so i asked if they could resend it but they said no. I don't understand....I never got the letter but i received the transcripts both of them.
        
        BartD  1:49 AM 03/20/13
        graham nine is like wtf are u doing
        
        mommy4585  1:49 AM 03/20/13
        lol i woke my husband up last night laughing
        
        ma4pa  1:49 AM 03/20/13
        she thinks you are crazy??!
        
        Todd Graham 1:50 AM 03/20/13
        i think in place of tt 152 you should put a big middle finer
        
        Todd Graham 1:50 AM 03/20/13
        finger
        
        ma4pa  1:50 AM 03/20/13
        oh novel
        
        ma4pa  1:50 AM 03/20/13
        looking 152
        
        BartD  1:50 AM 03/20/13
        answer eitherspoons question
        
        BartD  1:51 AM 03/20/13
        witherspoons
        
        mommy4585  1:51 AM 03/20/13
        my husband was liek wtf i have to be up in 3 hrs why are you still up????
        
        BartD  1:51 AM 03/20/13
        ok guess i will
        
        mommy4585  1:51 AM 03/20/13
        i told him that is the only time that i get to myself is when him and the girls are sleeping lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:51 AM 03/20/13
        your screwed....does that answer work
        
        ma4pa  1:52 AM 03/20/13
        You need to call and ask where you are in the system
        
        mommy4585  1:53 AM 03/20/13
        its telling us were all screwed lol
        
        Candice Witherspoon 1:53 AM 03/20/13
        im stll here bart
        
        ma4pa  1:53 AM 03/20/13
        this  letter is actually a low priorty right now because of the problems with the 8863
        
        BartD  1:53 AM 03/20/13
        answer is task 3/25 and thow it out the window and ur waiting until someone actually looks and reviews ur return they have 60 days and seem to taking every day of the 60 days from that letter
        
        BartD  1:54 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa is correct as well
        
        Candice Witherspoon 1:54 AM 03/20/13
        I am so pissed because i never even received the dang letter
        
        BartD  1:54 AM 03/20/13
        u did lost in mail computer generated and cant be esent
        
        BartD  1:55 AM 03/20/13
        they can read it to u
        
        BartD  1:55 AM 03/20/13
        i use to tell people wanna piss off an irs agent ask them to read the letter 2 u
        
        BartD  1:56 AM 03/20/13
        call back say i didn't understand can u re read it
        
        Candice Witherspoon 1:56 AM 03/20/13
        that is so messed up. I asked the next rep i got to read it and the only thing he said was no action is required from me but couldnt tell me what it said
        
        BartD  1:56 AM 03/20/13
        do that 4-5 times
        
        Candice Witherspoon 1:56 AM 03/20/13
        lol..............ok
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:57 AM 03/20/13
        so Bart, who are you that you seem to know more than the rest of us?
        
        Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
        let me
        
        Todd Graham 1:57 AM 03/20/13
        let me
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:57 AM 03/20/13
        please
        
        mommy4585  1:57 AM 03/20/13
        go for it lol
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:57 AM 03/20/13
        just a good researcher?
        
        BartD  1:58 AM 03/20/13
        omg
        
        mommy4585  1:58 AM 03/20/13
        :-)
        
        Todd Graham 1:58 AM 03/20/13
        program designer....we will start there
        
        BartD  1:58 AM 03/20/13
        after i have to go for the nite
        
        mommy4585  1:58 AM 03/20/13
        we gotta keep our spirit alive somehow 
        
        8863erinhell  1:59 AM 03/20/13
        the answer to our prayers, tax guru!!!! 
        
        Todd Graham 1:59 AM 03/20/13
        and just for being a smart ass you are going to the back of the line
        
        Todd Graham 1:59 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  1:59 AM 03/20/13
        i saw that earlier, but as far as IRS info...
        
        Amorette Shaw 1:59 AM 03/20/13
        Bart!
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:00 AM 03/20/13
        Heeelp!
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        Well, he cant give me a ddd, do he;s not answering MY prayers, lol
        
        8863erinhell  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        he built the software system the irs is using.    
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        raeinks  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GjVy2pMZiY here are some random rants to cheer everyione up tonight.
        
        8863erinhell  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        check out his bio under the purple tab its all there
        
        L M 2:00 AM 03/20/13
        Hi Bart, what about IDENTIFY...I was 8863...just call IRS today...I am back in processing as of today. My amt is gone topic 152 which is in sync with what they are telling me. I was married and my daughter is now living with me...do I NOW run the risk of having to verify even though I have called in several times with all my info from previous year....just afraid that I will have another hang up 
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:00 AM 03/20/13
        I filed on 2/8 HRB... yada yada.. no ddd. 8863. it keeps saying no date yet yada yada. I keep calling the IRS they keep sayig 4-6 weeks from March 15th is this true!
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:00 AM 03/20/13
        so he is the guy who F-cked up  everything for us?
        
        BartD  2:01 AM 03/20/13
        identy theft is 5 weeks after verified
        
        mommy4585  2:01 AM 03/20/13
        but he is also trying to help all of us
        
        Tom-and Estes 2:01 AM 03/20/13
        @BartD, I have a question: Filed 2/11 with ed credits, accepted 2/15. bars disappeared 3/4.  Still have refund amount, no tax topic. Just waiting. broke down and called IRS yesterday 3/18, and guy said there was note stating IRS was asking for an additional week to process mine. He said which would be up on friday 3/22.  Either DDD or $ by 3/22.  checked on hr block yesterday 3/18 and acceptance date changed to 3/18. as of today still no change on WMR. what are your thoughts
        
        BartD  2:01 AM 03/20/13
        i am done for the nite guys i have to get up early long day
        
        8863erinhell  2:01 AM 03/20/13
        nope not at all... hrb didnt update software
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        Awww!
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        you are praising someone who are putting us through this terror.
        
        L M 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        ok...get sleep
        
        BartD  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        estes someone can aswer that
        
        Todd Graham 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        tom you are back in normal processing
        
        Candice Witherspoon 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        thanks bart and have a good night.
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        like muslims kneeling down to oSama
        
        ma4pa  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        bart is leaving
        
        ma4pa  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        night
        
        8863erinhell  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        Gnight Bart, and ty again!!!
        
        mommy4585  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        have a good night bart
        
        BartD  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        ill be back fridat
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:02 AM 03/20/13
        Come back Bart!
        
        BartD  2:02 AM 03/20/13
        Friday 
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:03 AM 03/20/13
        Come Back Bart!
        
        Tom-and Estes 2:03 AM 03/20/13
        ok night
        
        Todd Graham 2:03 AM 03/20/13
        night
        
        mommy4585  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        ill let you know what they say when i call
        
        ma4pa  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        WHAT friday
        
        BartD  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        post on timeline ill try to answer some 2mor
        
        BartD  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        yes Friday will be gone all day
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:03 AM 03/20/13
        Bart... tell us you will come back in 4-6 weeks lol
        
        8863erinhell  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        lol remeber u gave out your phone number Bart I got it....lol
        
        ma4pa  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        Okay I will let ppl know cause I am here all the time
        
        BartD  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        ma4pa  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        I have no life
        
        ma4pa  2:03 AM 03/20/13
        have sugar daddy
        
        ma4pa  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        dont work
        
        BartD  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        ma4pa if u remember lol
        
        ma4pa  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        oh I well remember
        
        BartD  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        good nite gotta go crash another system tomorrow
        
        ma4pa  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        CRASH
        
        BartD  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        see ya  friday
        
        BartD  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        lol
        
        BartD  2:04 AM 03/20/13
        i mean fix
        
        BartD  2:05 AM 03/20/13
        BYE EVERYONE
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:05 AM 03/20/13
        Bye!
        
        mommy4585  2:05 AM 03/20/13
        Bye!
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:05 AM 03/20/13
        wow
        
        mommy4585  2:05 AM 03/20/13
        ?
        
        ma4pa  2:07 AM 03/20/13
        anyone know what the 152 tax topic is???
        
        mommy4585  2:07 AM 03/20/13
        its got to do with the refund options
        
        mommy4585  2:07 AM 03/20/13
        dd check or the card lol
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:07 AM 03/20/13
        lolllolololol]
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
        Why does the IRS Say 4-6 weeks from March 15?
        
        Tom-and Estes 2:08 AM 03/20/13
        is there a chance i will get a DDD or $ even if my refund amount never disappears or tax topic 152 doesnt come back or if i cant order transcripts
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
        WHats march 15?
        
        cece stat 2:08 AM 03/20/13
        u still in errors like me 
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:08 AM 03/20/13
        Tom I have 4 friends that were 8863.  got their refunds already but still can not get transcripts for fafsa
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:08 AM 03/20/13
        whos you?
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:08 AM 03/20/13
        there is no rhyme or reason to ANY of it!
        
        mommy4585  2:09 AM 03/20/13
        i have a friend that is the same way she got her state and federal last month but cant get her transcripts
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
        is it really going to take 4-6 weeks or is that stalling? Im just scared that it will never come
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:10 AM 03/20/13
        well first i was told 4-6, then 4-8 and tis morning 4-9
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
        I just want to say... OK March 15th start from there? OK Now today is 4 days past
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
        FOUR TO 9???????
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:10 AM 03/20/13
        9 WEEKS!!!
        
        mommy4585  2:10 AM 03/20/13
        they are going off of a script
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:10 AM 03/20/13
        i was out of errors for the second time on 3/4 and now "just processing"
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
        im in just processing too
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:11 AM 03/20/13
        yes...that is why I am drunk...9 weeks@
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
        thats almost 3 months
        
        cece stat 2:11 AM 03/20/13
        a rep told me thats what they are told to say
        
        cece stat 2:11 AM 03/20/13
        it could be anyday
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:11 AM 03/20/13
        they told me 3 times this week, will get refund around the last week of April
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:11 AM 03/20/13
        any day or 9 weeks
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:11 AM 03/20/13
        everyday
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
        Whenever I call they say the same thing 4-6 weeks from March 15. 
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:12 AM 03/20/13
        since 2/14
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
        me since 2/8
        
        cece stat 2:12 AM 03/20/13
        me too
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
        many are still waiting from january
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:12 AM 03/20/13
        because ou were probably out of errors and started processing again on 3/15
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:12 AM 03/20/13
        :(
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:12 AM 03/20/13
        I filed in January
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:13 AM 03/20/13
        before 8863 BullChit
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
        Ugh... January... 
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
        Did you get a ddd... January?
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:13 AM 03/20/13
        NO
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:13 AM 03/20/13
        omg
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:14 AM 03/20/13
        I feel like suing HRB for my pain and suffering
        
        mommy4585  2:14 AM 03/20/13
        its not just them i used turbo tax and im a 4464er
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:14 AM 03/20/13
        oh
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:15 AM 03/20/13
        But if 3 companies go and lie to their customers... their customers should atleast get their fee back
        
        mommy4585  2:16 AM 03/20/13
        turbo tax is only doing it if you filed before 2/14 because it was them that caused the problem for  me i filed 2/15 so i cant
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
        HRB hasnt yet
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
        Im scared to get a refund especially without my REFUND
        
        cece stat 2:16 AM 03/20/13
        hrb has
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
        YEA? How do you get it
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:16 AM 03/20/13
        I tried last week and they said they werent
        
        cece stat 2:17 AM 03/20/13
        they say u call and ask for ur fees back if u been waiting over 21 days
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:17 AM 03/20/13
        Oh... But will you still get your refund? LOL
        
        cece stat 2:17 AM 03/20/13
        yes
        
        Amorette Shaw 2:17 AM 03/20/13
        I dont want to mess with it
        
        TiredOfWaiting8863  2:29 AM 03/20/13
        i files 1/26 with TT

         

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          UncleSamStepSon Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 1:50 pm
          I wasted my time trying to talk with BartD
          (stillwaitinpa8863r Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 1:35 pm
          @8863: I believe the 4 weeks still.started from the 15th of feb which is the only thing that makes dates.correct…on 3/11 the 12c ltr was null andvoid…on the 15th this month is when most started getting dd…so if it extends to 6 weeks that would,be next week..this is now my theory not bartd.
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 1:22 pm
          @sittinwaitinwishin: I don’t think it is bad, but check with Bartd later when he is answering questions. He has insight the rest of us could never have. Also, a technical issue when trying to order could mean it is trying to post to Transcript system, so try again in a few hours to see if you can order one. If so, please post the result. Thanks!
          (still waitin in pa 8863r Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 1:22 pm
          )))attention all((((…the guy bartd was on here yesterday and told,me that I would have my dd by fri after 5 pm this week and,my moneybynext friday the,latest…ispoke withhrband the lady said to check my account,next weds friday the,latest …i know,he is on point cause he is not t cromhrb…this she said is for all 8863rs…so wewill.see…
          jennyleesmiles Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 1:02 pm
          @bartd…. any word on if it means anything when h&r site update the acceptance date from feb to march 18th?…. they say that they do not know why it happened
          mickey m Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 12:56 pm
          @MZUNDRSTD-4883C’ER: hey there your still here what lie did you get told today I took BartD advice called told them I was in errors she looked at the whole record and the only new info was that it should be 4-6 weeks from time I started processing again so that is march 4.
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 12:20 pm
          @This is ridiculous: Um…I have read this before and thought it was a fluke…or more to the point a mistake by the irs rep, but now I am wondering if the person in Errors who corrected your return possibly posted that in order to keep the letter from going out? Just a theory…but why else would this correspondence be noted if nothing was done by you (or the other person who was talking about this yesterday)? Bartd will be on this site later to answer questions. Run this by him and see if he can help you.
          MZUNDRSTD-4883C’ER Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:57 am
          GUYS BARTD IS IN CHAT IF U HAVE QUESTIONS
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:48 am
          @FormerCSRRep: I will, I think Bartd is gone again so I will check with him later I guess. :)
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:47 am
          @Hooray: @ready4mymny: Hooray….I hope that means good news for you! I have included you with ready4mymny because as you can see with that case anything can happen. ready4mymny it looks like you were sent back to Errors, but I would double check that with Bartd later when he is answering questions
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:42 am
          @SueL: For your case definitely default to whatever Bartd tells you, but if your TA is saying you do not need to send it that should mean that they have sent it to be corrected in the same manner as mine and they are waiting to hear back. Keep me posted.
          Sus31 Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:32 am
          @Bartd. It is possible to get a refund without tax topic 152 ever showing or amount dissapearing on wmr right?
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:32 am
          @FormerCSRRep: good morning…that sounds like a plan to me :)
          @Bartd: don’t burst my bubble please. :)
          Can you go back and look at what I posted earlier about the 12C letters and see what you think? Lots of conflicting stories and answers!
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:30 am
          @Bartd: Thanks for being with us again!
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:30 am
          I’ll be answering questions at 115
          givemetheloot Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:26 am
          @bartd—– once your processing you said you should get something within 10 days, do weekends count also????????????
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 10:24 am
          [Approve]
          @SueL: that’s a good statement but flawed. The computers can still process returns and all returns that are processed are on a seperate system in errors on first in first out basis
          collegegirl Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 9:19 am
          Word Doc of responses I saved from convo with BartD last night…just gonna copy and paste it here for people to read his info. Sorry, it’s kinda long, but I really think this info will help people!! Finally, some REAL ANSWERS!!!
          3/18 BartD on igotmyrefund.com:
          Ok, first let me explain who I am. My name is Bart and I have a masters in computer engineering and computer science and I have help make this computer system you all hate.
          The reason you all don’t get answers from the IRS is bc you don’t ask the right questions. The questions isn’t “Why don’t I have my money? What is taking so long?” It should be, “What happen that caused this?” Was it me that added the tax laws? Was it HRB? Was it the government – no and yes, bc it was a combined issue.
          The questions when you call should state this for every IRS agent: “Am I or was I in errors? I am checking the status to see if I am out? Oh, I am out? When did I start processing again, what day?” That’s the day and count to 10.
          10 days from the date back in processing you should have a return.
          If you don’t, you are completely under review, flagged, or audited.
          If you all want detail on how a return is processed tell me and I will explain each step.
          IGNORE HRB, DEMAND YOUR FILING FEES BACK AND ALWAYS LIE TO THE IRS AGENT
          Just a rule of thumb lie, lie, lie to IRS agents, “No not part of EDU, no special credit” You’re always in errors when you talk to them
          You never filed EDU or agents shut down and will not look
          Lie and say you are in errors even if you don’t know
          Transcripts:
          Transcripts can be a good sign but aren’t definitely “transcripts can only be ordered if a return is fully processed” but fully processed doesn’t mean the return isn’t flagged those who can’t order a transcript have never made it through the IRS system completely yet.
          Where’s My Refund:
          The master file post triggers wmr to update the following morning. “Ghosting” means can’t find any info on Where’s My Refund (WMR) – return goes ghost means not in normal processing. A form is either out dated, not competed, or detection of fraud makes unpostable. Info with bars just means you’re in errors. Typically updates at 4-6am EST update on wmr – the system generates and compiles a list of updates and just like you download a song on dial up, it slowly inputs the updates all the way up to 4 am.
          Identity Verification:
          The security I can’t state, but I check a lot of things, and small things can trigger it, even a different checking account number can trigger it in some cases. And a lot of identity verification for EIC this year bc of fraud.
          Letters:
          Nothing happens before the letter mail date. The letters for 8863 and other tax credits were turned off due to IRS self-correcting the errors. The system is designed to accept request date of letter not before, and that needs to change. Generating a letter is set specific to an error. And mail out date is just like a refund date it’s generated and processed and than mailed.
          How Returns Are Processed:
          Return is accepted and the system runs a series of mathematical checks and looks for competed forms – if there is an error it is automatically sent to a different system. This system, as you all know as the Errors Department where it sits in queue first come, first serve. An agent corrects the error and the processing starts all over. If it finds another error it gets sent back. You should realize at this point the IRS only corrects one error at a time and what the computer shows as the error, now it goes back to processing again from the beginning. Say this time no errors are found…the processing at the point transcripts can be ordered, is finished. Part 2 now occurs that is audit checks and risk management. That I can’t go into, but it checks the return and runs a risk number – if you are under a certain number, you post, if you are over you don’t post and you go into review.
          This system is set up to complete 1789000 returns in 3 days. 700 people were hired 11/10 and 12/1 and trained for 1/31, plus adding new tax laws equals delay automatically.
          Offsets:
          Typically, having an offset will delay your refund by an additional 5 days.
          Errors:
          The system is a point-coded database (not like Windows) so they sometimes don’t look at the right tabs or even look at reference codes. Everyone in errors has a specific reference code. Self-employed is the most audited return. It is done buy first come, first serve basis even buy the millisecond on when the return makes it to errors. People aren’t manually correcting all the 600,000 returns a computer is correcting some.
          Number to call:
          8008290582 ext 462
          Agents don’t have the power to touch, change, or mess with the return. IRS agents are told to lie and give generic, limited info by the director. Everyone should call 3 times every day… I am telling you, be just like the agents – lie and be pushy and demand your answers and when they give you attitude say, “Ok, let me keep your refund for 2 months and see how you feel, now answer my **** questions.”
          collegegirl Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 9:06 am
          FINALLY, AN UPDATE!!!
          College Girl:
          2/5 – Filed w HRB (EIC, HOH, 8863, 1 dependent)
          2/15 – Email from HRB accepted
          2/18 – One bar on wmr
          3/4 – Bars disappeared on wmr and got generic message “refund will be provided when available”
          3/6 – IRS rep said i “might” get a letter
          3/16 – HRB account Acceptance date changed from 2/26 to 3/16
          3/18 – HRB account Acceptance date changed from 3/16 to 3/18
          3/18 – BartD (tax guru on this site) chatted and told me my DDD is coming soon
          3/19 – Tax topic 152 and refund amount gone – is this good news??
          Also, I saved a doc of BartD’s responses in our chat last night. He provided REAL info and insight into what IRS is telling us and what the actual system is doing (he helped design the system the IRS uses). @Mod – Where should I post the doc of info? I also emailed the entire chat convo to myself so I have that as well….he REALLY helped a lot of ppl last night!
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 8:18 am
          EVERYONE!!!! Just a heads up when bartd (our tax god) comes on later today to answer question please try to ask one at a time…I know it’s hard to know who is next in line, but try to be patient with him…he has a lot of great answers to give and I would hate to see anyone’s questions get lost in the overflow.
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 8:06 am
          @Bartd: good morning to you too, you are awesome, you will diff be a busy man when you get on…may need a drink in hand lol
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 8:00 am
          @catmom: well good morning and thank you for all the nice compliments I am glad you got u DD and yes I will be on chat at 1:15 est time. But will be reading post this morning as much as I can. I will not reply until chat is open. :( little busy this morning with work related stuff. Testing a cool new apple product coming out in the near future. :)
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 7:06 am
          @lindsl2: if you don’t get answers come back on here today around 1:15pm eastern time, guy by the name of BartD is the Tax God
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 6:53 am
          @Army Wife: be here later today and talk to BartD he can answer questions for you…I strongly recommend him over any irs rep
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 6:39 am
          Just want everyone to know, if you were not here yesterday…there was a “TAX GOD” here and he answered alot of questions for people…he knows his stuff…he will be back on today at 1:15pm eastern time. If you are not getting answers from the reps or need info as to your situation I strongly advice you to ask him, his name is BartD
          momdukes Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 12:55 am
          BartD says to completely ignore HNR and call the IRS no less than 3 times a day, everyday. Until you get your $$. He also said alot of good info about the ‘ghosting’ and errors, and other stuff. Goodnite.
          yetanotheronewaiting Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 11:09 pm
          @Under rev 40 days:
          Not usually, the error thing is usually something like the ed credit problem. Under review, from what I understand is more like a verification process for income, tuition etc. There’s a guy BartD that just set up a new chat area that can probably give you a better answer to that one.
          LeeshT Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 10:44 pm
          I found this helpful when needing to call the IRS number… 1-800-829-1040 or 1-800-829-0922
          Via BartD
          “Ask the right questions”
          “the questions isn’t y don’t I have my money, what is taking so long… it should be
          what happen that caused this. was it me that added the tax laws was it HRB was it the government no and yes it was a combined issue.”
          “the questions when u call should state this (for every one) for
          IRS agent- am I or was I in errors, I am checking the staus and to see if I am out,
          oh I am out when did I start processing again what day
          that’s the day and count to 10
          10 days from the date back in processing you should have a return
          if you don’t u are completely under review flagged or audited”
          wheresitat Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 10:36 pm
          Filed 1/22 8863 received 12c faxed it back bartd said since i faxed in y info it wold be four weeks …….four wees fro when ….when i called last Wednesday thhey said i was back in normal processing and to wait four weeks ……….aain for weeks from when ……..anybody any insight…………and does anybody kknow how long it wold take if i just had it amended
          momdukes Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:50 pm
          Aw man. Bartd! You make me second guess getting an iphone now. Where’d you go??
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:46 pm
          @shawnda parker: call again tomorrow to make sure if you are in review and not in errors than it can take 45 days for a full review to be completed and they will request information
          shawnda parker Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:43 pm
          @BartD how long does a refund stay in review?
          My refund was accepted 2/18, I was able to order my transcripts Friday 3/15, I called IRS today and was told my refund is being held for review. Im only getting the generic “your refund is still being processed” a due date will be given when available. I never got any letters or anything. How long does a refund stay in the review dept.? Will I ever get a due date or a refund?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:30 pm
          Chat room Tom 115 to 6 or later and other days will be wed from 9am est till 3 est time and 6 est to 9 est and we will go from there !! :)
          Cali Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:22 pm
          @Bartd: is there a delay when u have an offset?
          Shell Day 49 WTH Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:17 pm
          @Bartd: also one more thing might be good is to give the times on here tonight you plan to open & close the chat room!!!!! :-)
          Stressing out :) Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:17 pm
          @bartd- I’ve been reading through all of the posts- thank you so much for all of the great info. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone ask this yet (or I may have missed it trying to flip through all of these posts on my phone)- If we filed late Jan/ accepted 2/14 and have received no letters, etc, should I be concerned yet? Called once last week and rep said no issues, just still processing. Not sure how true that is, though :(
          carrie Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:13 pm
          @Bartd: i need ur help plz
          Shell Day 49 WTH Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:12 pm
          @Bartdk : you probably should name it your name on here so people know it is you :-)!!!!!!!!!
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:11 pm | In reply to Bartd.
          BARTD You know the chat rooms are only lightly moderated you can give all kinds of info on them (wink wink)
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:09 pm
          @Shell Day 49 WTHI have a chat room tomorrow we can figure this all out than I’ll have the chat open for a good 5 hours
          Shell Day 49 WTH Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:02 pm
          @Bartd: If they allow you to post your facebook name if you are willing people could get your email from that if you made it open!!!!!
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:00 pm
          I will be opening at chat room tomorrow at 1:15 eastern time for those people that have question for me
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:59 pm
          I don’t understand why Bartd is not allowed to post the number he set up for text. He has gone out of his way to be so kind and helpful. I have posted my email on here before when people needed help. Can he post in the chat room.
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:43 pm | In reply to Bartd.
          @BARTD I totally understand about the Iphone but we just dont feel its a good idea for anyone to post their number on this feed we dont even allow ppl to post emails
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:41 pm | In reply to RachelSRoach.
          @BARTD Did you see my post, I dont want to you to think for a minute that you are being moderated just we dont think its a good idea for you to post your number on this feed, you can private chat ppl or open a chat room or a forum
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:40 pm
          Apparently I am not aloud to give out my number sorry guys
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:39 pm
          That’s not good I’m on the move and don’t have a laptop to start a chat I’m on a damn iPhone and this site isn’t iphone friendly
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:37 pm
          [Approve]
          Lol this texting question and answer thing isn’t so bad only 25 people text me within 15 mins lol but I am glad I can help any questions the number again is 2159951673
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:36 pm
          My comment is waiting moderation?? WTH
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:35 pm | In reply to Cali.
          @BARTD The admins dont want you to post your phone on this feed you are more then welcomed to start a chat room or a forum please know that we do appreciate all the help you are giving.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:33 pm
          [Approve]
          Lol this texting question and answer thing isn’t so bad only 25 people text me within 15 mins lol but I am glad I can help any questions the number again is 215-995-1673
          momof3 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:24 pm
          @bartd – I’ve been on the site for a while but never commented. I rec’d an acct transcript on 3/1 that was blank and then another transcript on 3/8 that has cycle date of 20131005 and 3/25/2013 next to it. I also have a code 570 – additional account action pending for 3/25/ 2013. Does that mean I will done processing on 3/25/2013 or am I going to receive another letter on 3/25? I rec’d a 4464c letter dated 2/26
          Tired of waiting Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:10 pm
          And if you are out of errors does that generally mean you won’t go back in? Also Bartd said 3-5 days of processing so after it processes how long do you wait until you see your money?
          irritable refund sydrome (irs) Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:01 pm
          @Bartd: hello, I’ve seen that you’ve been helpful to alot of people today, I’ve been on this site forever. Here’s my story, filed and accepted 1/31 never had orange bars, no ed.credits, just a regular return…one dependent, hoh. Never recieved letter, just reached an helpful irs agent who told me i had a 4883c letter being mailed and she gave me the number to call to verify. Verified 2/25, wmr refund still showing “your tax return is still being processed, a refund date will be given when avail” have called several times and today they told me i was still processing, to keep checking wmr for updates. I am so over this. Do u have ideas or timeframe when i should see a ddd. Hell, I’ll be happy just to see one bar, that would be some kind of change at least. Thanks
          BeBe Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 8:00 pm
          @ Bartd I filed 2/21 HnR Block home software. I had a status bar only the first bar colored. That was for about 2 weeks.I have not gotten any letters from them at all. Now I have no status bar AND my amount is still there. I was in error but it had been fixed. Now on wrm say’s this:
          Your tax return is still being processed.
          A refund date will be provided when available.
          Please read the following information related to your tax situation:
          Tax Topic 152, Refund Information
          Please Note:
          For refund information, please continue to check here, or use our free mobile app, IRS2Go. Updates to refund status are made no more than once a day.
          What does this mean? I have 8863 and 2dependents. Last week irs said everything was looking good. my 21 days was last Thursday. I have no ddd yet?
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:59 pm | In reply to Bartd.
          @BARTD I think I may need to ask to Admin if they mind you posting your number
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:57 pm
          Ok sorry for those I didn’t respond on here just text it to the number I’ll try to help in anyway good luck I’ll be back on periodically repost the number all u want
          wheresitat Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:56 pm
          Bartd four weeks from when i faxed it in two weeks ago
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:56 pm
          Wow, Bartd. You are so kind. Perhaps maybe put some time frames on when you can answer questions. LOL
          wheresitat Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:55 pm
          Bartd man that sux i knew the ones who didnt get the letter was getting their money first
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:55 pm | In reply to Bartd.
          @BARTD Thanks for all your help not so sure about the texting but you asked for it,,lol
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:55 pm
          @Ourmoneyiscoming: your in review not errors if you ordered a return transcript not account transcript
          raeinks Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:54 pm
          @bartd they won’t tell me a date just that I am out of errors and that it could be mid or end of april before I see my refund
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:53 pm
          [Approve]
          Ok everyone I set up a text free number for everyone to just text and I’ll respond as quick as I can when I can I have to get off for now the number is 215-995-1673 I will only respond to tax questions I won’t call anyone so don’t call me but text all you want and I’ll get to them as soon as I can I promise you guys can post on here as we go and you can give out that number to who ever you need to except to an irs agent lol
          Ourmoneyiscoming Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:50 pm
          @bartd. Are they processing them I. Order of when they were received … we filed a joint return 1/27 ac epted 2/14 still no dd but they said if they are in errors they’re. Still processing
          david Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:50 pm
          @Shell Day 49 WTH:
          Not According To Bartd System He wrote
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:48 pm
          @bartd: I was told I will not receive a letter from errors for form 8863. Can I do anything to get out of errors or just wait it out? How long do you think I will be waiting if I am still in the errors department? I was accepted 2/14.
          Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:47 pm
          @Bartd: oh computer guru!! That makes a lot of sense lol thanks for all your information!! The IRS lady said today that I am almost done processing what do you have to say about that any truth to it??
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:46 pm
          @Rhonda: soon as long as it doesn’t go bk to errors
          catmom Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:45 pm
          @Bartd: you have a lot of great information, you should start a chat room (chat office) for everyone to ask you questions :) I know everyone is thankful for all your help :) it helps ease their wonders since the reps won’t help them
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:45 pm
          @Lookslikeimbroke: I have a masters in computer engineering and computer programming I helped build they software and processing system you all are complaining about :)
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:44 pm
          @kris: yes and u can only order a transcript when a file has been fully completed through the computers during normal processing . Yes I am sure u read people say I don’t have a DDD and I can order a transcript that is because those people are under review not in errors so the system finished processing it and sent it to the review department not master file
          Lookslikeimbroke Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:43 pm
          @Bartd: I’m pretty sure you already answered this but do you work for IRS?? How do you know all this info??
          Rhonda Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:41 pm
          @Bartd
          My TA’s supervisor said she ask for a release 3/13, but I still have no DDD..When they told me I came out of ERS between 3/13-3/15, when should I exprect something?
          kris Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:40 pm
          @bartd…when I last called (3/15) the woman said I was in errors because of educational credit form but it had been manually fixed by them and was out if errors. Yet I can’t order a transcript and my status has yet to change. So call again?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:39 pm
          @wheresitat: yeah 4 weeks lol unfortunately those who fax info take the longest
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:38 pm
          @Rhonda: sure they can but they will take forever and won’t be worth it
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:37 pm
          @kris: u were def placed in errors for something causing the delay I would call and ask them if you are out of the errors department yet
          Rhonda Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:37 pm
          @Bartd
          Can my congressman get my refund released any sooner? I got them involved today…Also the IRS rep told me this morning that I came out of the ERS dept between 3/11-3/15..When can I expect something?
          wheresitat Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:36 pm
          Well bartd maybe u can hhelp me i filed 1/22 8862 received 12c12c 2/28 faxed it back 3/1 called irs a few days ago and they said wait 4 weeks any insight
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:34 pm
          @bartd: I never received a letter and I was told I would not receive one. Is there anything I can do to help me get out of errors or do I have to just wait it out? Either way how long do you think I am looking at? I had a vacation planned to take my family to Disnyey May 5, and I getting worried I am not going to have it my refund in time.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:34 pm
          @givemetheloot: there is nothing more u can do but wait unfortunately the verification takes forever I would say call on Friday after 5 pm to check the status
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:31 pm
          @sooo stressed out….: most likely by Saturday wmr should show a ddd if there are no new errors found in return
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:29 pm
          @carolj1972: code 221 Taxpayer Correspondence has been sent meaning they sent u a letter so most likely u are still in errors
          kris Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:29 pm
          @bartd…I filed 1/29 accepted 2/14. 8863 form. H&R Block at home software. Never a letter and the woman at IRS I spoke to said my return wad out of errors as of this past Friday. I have no bars on Where’s My Refund (WMR) since 2/21 and continually says refund date when available. No codes, no change in acceptance date, no topic number. Any suggestions? I call IRS once a week .
          givemetheloot Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:28 pm
          @bartd- can u help me???
          efiled and accepted 2-7-13, got 4883c on 3-4-13 dated for 3-1-13.
          verified 3-7-13, called 3-14-13 told still processing.
          called again today told still processing, no problems, told they have until 4-11-13 to get it to me
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:27 pm
          @mamaof4: normal processing
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:23 pm
          @raeinks: the exact date u were out of error
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:22 pm
          @Stephanie Collins: 1574? That’s interesting have u called the irs.
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:19 pm
          @bartd: I have tried reading through previous post. I don’t want to ask the same questions and make you repeat yourself. I am in the same situation as most delayed for form 8863. I was told on 3/8 that my return was corrected and it had just been returned to processing that day. He spent about 20 mins researching. I never received an update so I called back a week later 3/15 and was told I was still in error department, because the IRS agent said code 221 was still showing. Do you know if I am still in errors with this information or is it possible the IRS agent I spoke to on 3/8 was correct and I am back in processing?
          raeinks Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:18 pm
          @Bartd what info do you need for the predictions you’re making? I never received a letter and was told today I am out of errors. I filed 2/1 accepted 2/14
          sooo stressed out…. Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:18 pm
          @bartd I filed in feb 3 but accepted on the 14 due to the error. nor my hrb account says march 18 as my accepted date. I called last monday they said my coound was on hold for the 8863 error. do you think i might get the ddd this week
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:13 pm
          @ashanti87: that’s easy either wmr just hasn’t updated because u are in que to be processed and process hasn’t started on ur return yet or your typing it in wrong
          Stephanie Collins Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:13 pm
          Bartd why would they hold onto my refund for so long? I did NOT have the 8863 or any delayed forms. Only an erroneous refund they sent me the end of 2012. I filed Feb 4th but due to my incompetent tax preparer putting my name in wrong it was fixed and accepted the 6th. I still have not seen my refund. Take action notice (code 1574) on Where’s My Refund (WMR) since 2/14.
          Tired of waiting Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:11 pm
          @Bartd I think you have helped so many people today! Thank you! So you are saying that if I call back Thursday or Friday then a rep should be able to tell me a ddd? The rep did tell me that Where’s My Refund (WMR) may not show a change for 7 days
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:08 pm
          @carolj1972: your welcome and lol I am not special I just feel bad for you guys that really just have no clue what’s going on and how this works and I know that everyone gets bullshit responses from The irs
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:06 pm
          @karen: call Friday after 5pm and check the status just ask if your out of error and what the status is you should have a DDD for 3/26 or 3/27
          ashanti87 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:03 pm
          @bart hello bartd i have a question that i need some help with i e-filed march 14 with tt and accepted 30min later. i check wmr everyday to be told no recorded of my return but i can pull up my state and my sbbt account and all my info is right.whats going on,what should i do?
          carolj1972 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 7:02 pm
          @bartd: I caught some of your responses on my way home from work. I was rushing home to log onto my laptop, its like your a special guest on IGMR. LOL. Thank you for all your helpful information. I appreciate your help and I am sure everyone else does on this site also.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:54 pm
          @(Still waitin in pa: ur still early atleast another week for u
          (Still waitin in pa Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:45 pm
          @bartd..no asked for lines 23_26…just listed my profile so u would know my sitch…it was a 12c…faxed them the 8863 form on sat but on3/11 was told infonot needed…dunno wats goin on now..still procwssing on wmr
          Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:42 pm
          @Bartd: Thank you, you have just reassured my faith in all!
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:39 pm
          @8863erinhell: it’s really no problem the 3/18 is a good sign the 8863 issue is now over some got there DDD date before hrb posted that date but it’s really hrb acting like they are doing something. What it does mean u are back in normal processing or have been processed I would expect people with the hrb 3/18 date to be getting there DDD by sat if not earlier.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:34 pm
          @(Still waitin in pa: 8863 may have had and issue with ur return but that isn’t the issue there requesting information to be faxed unrelated to 8863 so they find something suspicious even if it’s lagit till that’s verified u have to wait sorry
          (Still waitin in pa Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:30 pm
          @bartd..ty..never had a issue til this yr..thought maybe before friday but ok..thanks..that 8863…wat a doozy
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:25 pm
          @(Still waitin in pa: you faxed the info which was good but now u actually have to wait for someone to accept it input it have a supervisor agree to it and resubmit it u still have about 2 weeks to go. I suggest u call Friday and ask if ur out of errors expect a DDD 5 days after the date your out of errors unless the system finds and error again
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:22 pm
          @BethA: keep calling
          Anonymous Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:22 pm
          @Bartd thank you. He didnt make 45k this year but he was doing a paid internship for 6 months and making almost 3k a month. Just worried since its such a big jump from nothing the year before
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:21 pm
          @crose 617: there are legal grounds for failure to provide proper service and submitting incomplete returns and causing direct hardship
          BethA Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:21 pm
          @Bartd: I was was wondering do you know if you verify over the internet. Which was a week ago Saturday. I called today and the IRS rep said that was the hold and I need to call them. In your opinion do you think I should or wait since that has not been enough time to process yet. I did try this morning and was on hold for 3 hours . I then hung up called latter this afternoon and it said to call back tomorrow it was busy. So should I wait another week and see what happens or keep trying to call. Thanks for any and all advice.
          (Still waitin in pa Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:20 pm
          @bartd…so ur saying 8863rs gettingdue dates n deposits soon…mysitch…1/16filed htb at home…1/23 accpt…then 1/30 …then2/15 …then got ltr on 3/9 12c..immediatedly faxed info..hoh..eic3….8863r..please advise ty
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:17 pm
          @Anonymous: no not really irs won’t audit younger adults with gapped tax returns because if they had no income or any income under 5000 per year you are not required by law to file a return. The gap would show under a quick review that he had no or little reported income in the previous years and Audit is not required. The computer shouldn’t pick up a flag based on age and no file on returns for the previous years and small reported income. They only way it will find a risk if he claims about 45k this year and never had real income.
          Anonymous Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:09 pm
          @Bartd Ive been reading you posts and you seem to know a few things. : ) My son filed for the second time in his life this year. First time is when he was 17. He filed 1w2 and 8863. Do you think he can get flagged because of the gap? Just wondering cause hes still in college and could really use the money
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:07 pm
          @Bartd very true
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:04 pm
          @Tired of waiting: under real computer processing and system checks as long as no errors are found the true processing time is 3-5 days to post master file. And I said Thursday or Friday if you call and check after 5pm your time and not check wmr because if a file post Friday u won’t see it till say or Sunday on wmr depending on time frame master file actually posted
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:01 pm
          @fedup: well they can’t say they screwed up because people pay them no one pays the irs directly through taxes you do but you can’t demand the money back where hrb can be sued underground of filing incomplete tax returns causing hardship. Also they would lose customers for next year and HRB adverage yearly income is 117,000,000
          Tired of waiting Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 6:00 pm
          @Bartd I really hope you are right about seeing a ddd Thursday or Friday…anyone know how long the process is after you came out of errors, wasn’t told what day she just said this last weekend
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:56 pm
          @Bartd aye aye aye and hrb is going to keep denying its a problem on their end forever I’m sure either they are just dumb or they think we all are
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:49 pm
          @fedup: it’s actually not a computer glitch it’s really and hrb software glitch making incomplete forms. What pisses me off is the system has a ui interface to input new tax laws. And scan forms in. Then u basically tell it what to look for and to accept of reject if. Now system checks for fraud and other stuff I can’t talk about it’s all coded and extremely complicated just the mathematical fourmals for risk assesment is a pain in the ass. Slight miss calculation puts no one returns in audit or everyone’s in audit
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:40 pm
          @essie: they both update over nite so neither
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:39 pm
          @Bartd lol its ok I’m actually majoring in Computer Science and my professors assured me that their students naturally arent very good at spelling/grammar lol. but no I know how easy an error can occur when writing code especially if its being forced out quickly makes my head spin just thinking about it :P I was just thinking to myself a few days ago if IRS and HRB are pointing fingers at each other I wonder how much hell they are giving the software developers
          Chad Madison 4883cer Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:38 pm
          @Bartd: Ok, thanks again
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:36 pm
          @Chad Madison 4883cer: what I been saying to everyone no u don’t have edu credit . If asked and you were told you were in errors a few days ago even if you weren’t told that. And you want to know if you are out of errors and what day u were out and placed back into normal processing
          Chad Madison 4883cer Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:33 pm
          @Bartd: Ok so when I call back on friday if i havent gotten anything what should I ask.. Thanks for your help btw
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:33 pm
          @miss_pretty: no notes only log files showing who opened it and when if u got a rep you had gotten before they can see they already looked at it. Lol just call back who cares what they say it’s your money
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:31 pm
          @Chad Madison 4883cer: impossible and they lied to you they say the see no errors because it isn’t in error currently. If you verified on that date u should have been in normal processing and your return had to hit errors department at some point to cause another delay u might now be in normal processing. They are just looking at screen one and two of the system they are not looking at processing status details
          jenn Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:31 pm
          @bartd i was out of errors on 3/12 well that is what i was told by IRS but still no update on wmr do you think i will get a dd date sometime soon i have 8863 an eic
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:28 pm
          @fedup: yeah actually I have a MA in computer programming And engineering even though I can’t seem to type well on this damn iPhone lol
          Chad Madison 4883cer Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:27 pm
          @Bartd: what if you got a 4664c letter then a 4883c letter after i verified they said i was released back into processing on 2.21 and when i called on Friday they said they see no holds or errors and still processing
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:26 pm
          @Bartd I seen your older post that you were one of the people that build the system…software developer?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:25 pm
          @fedup: oh and that is 5 pm your time so I’ll be on at 8 pm est Friday to check on your stays do not talk to someone 1 min before system files post exactly at 5 pm and at some points during the day the important one is 5pm return are closed insisted file
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:23 pm
          @Tired of waiting: gear if you were out of errors say Sunday you should have a DDD by Friday if not thursday
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:22 pm
          @fedup: and I really hope I am right :)
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:20 pm
          @fedup: yes ask them if you have a DDD date and tell them you were in errors out of errors and u were put into normal processing no edu credit and filed when ever you actually filed and you are check the status
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:18 pm
          @Bartd no problem I’ll update you for sure I actually just wrote your predicted dates on my work calender so I dont forget either way right or wrong I’ll let you know :) You’ll be on 5pm Eastern I’m a few hours behind as I’m in CA but once I see you on here I’ll post what happened. So just to be clear on the 22nd I should call the IRS after 5 and ask them if I have a refund date?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:18 pm
          @mscheavious: that’s not really true either they don’t document every time u call there is only a log file that shows when ur file is opened and who opened it
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:13 pm
          @miss_pretty: just a generic excuse again. Everyone needs to think like them and not like a normal person. One when u call in always say your are or were in errors department by rules they have to look further into your account if asked how u filed say paper but you Were told a few days ago u were in error and ur checking n the status. If they ask about edu credit lie about it and say no
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:10 pm
          @SueL: that tells u something TA pretend to think like the IRS so if it’s edu credits or and fiscal Clift credit or anything related to it they don’t care cause it will be worked out by the irs
          miss_pretty Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:10 pm
          @Bartd Sat I lost bars and tax topic I called this morning and was told since I paper filed wait 6-8 week’s I don’t understand I went from 21 days to processing refund date when available
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:08 pm
          4464c ltr takes the longest to verify and is the worst letter to get. Some returns have taken over 4 months in the past to verify everything UNTILL they get w2 from employer or proof. 4464c people are the ones that should have a TA and fax the information over to them cause they can speed that processes up a lot
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:08 pm
          @Bartd: when I talked to my TA this morning I know for a fact she didn’t look me up at all so yeah she’s not very helpful.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:02 pm
          @nursemom: good sign
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 5:00 pm
          @arlene can u tell me if: it depends the amount will disappear when in errors or back in processing if in errors it has to be out and processed if it’s out of errors 80 percent chance u will get a refund date soon
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:57 pm
          This is everyone’s problem you want info from irs do not call and tell them you have edu credit issues LIE!! Say NO they will look further into the account then prob tell you ur have the edu credit and than say oh I didn’t know what that was!!
          BrokeW5 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:56 pm
          !Bartd, I don’t have an edu credit, only eic.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:55 pm
          @BrokeW5: than I suggest you call don’t mention edu credit say you were in errors and u wanna know if your out yet. If they ask about edu credit say no
          arlene can u tell me if Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:55 pm
          @Bartd: plz brad help my amount dissappared for 2days is it my turn mayb next cycle
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:53 pm
          @SueL: most arnt they are what we called irs wanna bees they think they can solve something but most cases they can’t. This is basic convo hi this is Mary i am the ta for suel . I want to see the progress on the tax return and if there is any information requested form my client. There is no information requested ok what is the status. Let me check . Oh it’s in error what is the code reason. Oh it’s code 100 that means should be processing in 5 days thanks. Suel ur return is in errors you should have ur return in 2 weeks
          BrokeW5 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:50 pm
          @Bartd, it was definitly beause they thought it was an i.d. theft since I moved, but I was wondering how long it would be before I recieved my return after I verified.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:47 pm
          @BrokeW5: you verified via phone call. ? If you did than are u also filing edu credit? If not than there is no reason for the delay unless ur hit errors for some reason. Unpostible is a major error but it also becomes unpostible if it’s I’d theft. Once identity is verified tax return has to be reprocessed and check for errors again.
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:47 pm
          35 approved
          [email protected] @Bartd, I’ll give you my permission to find out where mine is then :)
          74.221.45.129 Seriously though, you are being very helpful.
          Back to my TA question. I’ve never told them I have one and so they still talk to me but was told by her this morning not to call because I can make it worse by calling anyone but her. (But if you missed my comments earlier she’s going on vacation Wed-Fri this week…what a bunch of bs and won’t call me back until Monday. I am hoping I get a DDD before she calls me back and then I am going to ignore her, she’s not very nice!)
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:43 pm
          They funny thing is I was in the same boat filed 2/14 and got my money last Thursday. I once called in and was like where is my money and they gave me the se story UNTILL I told them who I was and not to give me some generic speech and look to see where I was and what the reference code was in error FYI if anyone ever gets reference code 100 for error department it means simple error that must be corrected in 5 working days if it cannot a letter must be sent explaining needing addition time. Hence the letters you all get
          BrokeW5 Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:40 pm
          @Bartd, I verified my 4883c letter on Feb. 26th and I’m still waiting on my refund. Any idea how long it will be before it is recieved? And thank you for all the advice, it’s all very informative. Also, they said that my return is unpostable… What does that mean?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:38 pm
          @SueL: in this case they are hurting preventing people to annoy the reps which you all should annoy it’s your money and it should have been handled way different. TA are great if you have and audit but is no good because of glitches it’s just prevents u to finding out information unless a TA does it for you
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:36 pm
          @Tired of waiting: lie always lie say no I didn’t file edu credit play stupid.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:34 pm
          The fiscal cliff did cause delays than hrb just cause havoc on the system. Irs has some blame because the system is set up to program (input) new tax laws in less than 10 days but the series or test that must be preformed after is long and out dated. Now HRB is to blame cause they can’t make there own software to properly fill out a form. Now IRS mistake was they should have program the computer to accept either checked or blank boxes and resulted all returns ignoring that error and completing the returns instead they are wasting a lot of time correcting returns that require check marks it’s dumb on there part
          FormerCSRRep Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:34 pm
          @Bartd: Thank you Bartd for taking the time to try to help us….we can’t possibly hate anyone who has been devoting so much time to making things better if not right. : )
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:31 pm
          @Bartd…darn you! Be careful, now that I asked and you revealed, you may get attacked.
          Let me ask you this, do Advocates help or hurt in your opinion?
          And if I give you our info can you push ours through? :0)
          Tired of waiting Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:30 pm
          @bartd thanks for responding, any idea what to say to get them to look more into my account because I have called and I get the oh you filed education credits well wait 4-6 weeks response
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:28 pm
          @Tired of waiting: call the irs ur most likely still in errors
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:26 pm
          @SueL: I knew someone was going to ask. Lets just say I am one of those people you all hate right now. I helped build the new system that is causing all the problems
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:24 pm
          @fedup: I am going to predict u will have a refund date 3/22 if you call the irs after 5pm. that is and Where’s My Refund (WMR) will update 3/23 and say u have a DDD of 3/27. And u must let me know if I am right. I’ll be on here 5pm est Friday to look for ur post
          SueL Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:22 pm
          @Bartd, you seem very knowledgeable, what’s your background or how do you know all this stuff?
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:22 pm
          @bartd oh no it was not worth it at all but you live and you learn thanks for all of the help
          Tired of IRS B.S. in Alabama Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:20 pm
          ty bartd
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:20 pm
          @fedup: yeah 230 dollars isn’t worth 2 month wait but it’s to late now just relax u will most likely get a DDD this week I can almost guarantee it
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:18 pm
          @Tired of IRS B.S. in Alabama: this happens they don’t believe u made and paid the taxes on what you say you did. Irs has a percentage calculation for the amount of tax at it’s highest point should come out off the certain amount ur reported to make. If that amount is higher u will get a wage verification letter. If you report a much higher income than previous years the same will happen. So expect them to contact your employer to verify your w2 and expect there to be a 4-6 week wait and that is the best case. Depends on how long it takes to verify the w2 and how long it takes ur employer and how long it takes them to accept it and input it and reprocess. You have been flagged
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:15 pm
          @Bartd I feel a little more at ease just knowing the process that it probably took. its the not having any knowledge of the process that drives so many of us crazy I think. Next time I will listen to my gut instinct since every fiber in my body was telling me “do not file those damn EDU credits its not worth the extra $230!” but I did it anyways :P should have listened to that inner voice
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:13 pm
          @Tryntsangel: no problem you should be fine I hope everyone gets there DDD soon.
          Tryntsangel Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:11 pm
          @Bartd: okay, that makes sense, one of my kids has a different last name and another has hers spelled wrong on her birth certificate, which hasn’t been fixed yet. They have both been filed on the previous 2 returns… So hopefully that clears us, thanks again, your info has been so much help!!
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:08 pm
          @fedup: yes that would trigger a return to go into review. But anyone with brains would see u went to school previous years just by a simple verification because it’s reported even if you didn’t
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:05 pm
          @Tryntsangel: no but it can trigger a random Audit but the computer system is designed only to compare the last 2 years returns to the current so if you had them on the return the last 2 years than it clears that as a risk but can consider it for a random check. 80 percent of child tax credit audits are due to multi children with different last names and or foster children
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:05 pm
          @Bartd that makes sense that my return would be thrown back in to errors if the system looks for those type of differences. As this was the first year I ever claimed EDU credits-even though I have been going to school for a number of years- and thus my refund was a little higher than it typically is but still not where near 10k although that would sure be nice :P
          Tryntsangel Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 4:01 pm
          @Bartd: do you think mine would be considered a risk if the multi last names have been claimed before this year?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:59 pm
          The irs system is really tricky Other than a random audit it can consider a return at risk for many of reasons and slow the process down. Example eic never claimed before . Multi kids with each different last names. High amount of refund and the most important one is rounded numbers instead of med expense being 4763 people tend to round it to 4800 even numbers or even high deductions. If your return is the same as previous years than it’s just random checks minus any errors during processing
          JustPissedOff Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:57 pm
          @Bartd: Thanks for the information I will be calling again in the morning!
          Shell Day 49 WTH Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:56 pm
          @Bartd: H&R Block also had sent messages to their customers (I didn’t get one, but i saw it posted on here that someone posted it) that they are taking blame “kind of,” but they said that the IRS is getting mad at them for blaming them & basically threatened them if they don’t stop blaming them then they arn’t going to hurry up and process their messed up returns.
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:55 pm
          @Bartd yea I figured as much I dont know how they thing they will ever save their own hides with more excuses.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:52 pm
          @Bedlackdoll: anything under 10,000 dollars is not considered a risk unless previous returns were not as high
          Tryntsangel Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:51 pm
          @Bartd: awesome, thanks!!! I was trying to find out if I will get another acceptance date. When I called the IRS they said my only error was from edu credits. Just got my new accepted date for 3/17, hoping for the best! Thanks again for your post, really helped me understand a lot better!!
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:50 pm
          @fedup: this is really the way for hrb to cover there asses for the mistake and act like they are doing something about there mistake when the irs is handling the mess
          Bedlackdoll Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:49 pm
          @Bartd: What is the national average? We have extra held and have for the last few years our refund has always been over nine thousand with no problems at all. Is there a way to tell what the numbers are they are going by?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:48 pm
          @It’s better to be pissed off than pissed on: mistake on hrb part. That’s the date the return was corrected for edu credit and is back into processing
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:44 pm
          @fedup: yes it’s back in processing again
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:43 pm
          @Tryntsangel: this is how it works return is accepted goes into the irs computers. The computers process the return and stop at an error aka edu credit. The return auto gets sent to another system aka errors department. These are handled in order. Once someone manually corrects it the case is closed and goes back into processing. The computer can process a return in 3-5 days. If it stops again for an error it gets back to the errors department sits till someone corrects it or info requested is recieved. I than gets resubmitted for processing. Now say no more errors the computer will rate the return with national adverage after another 3-5 days or processing. If it is anywhere from below- to mid high of the national adverage it will post to the master file and a DDD will be given. It’s it high risk it will be flagged for a different type of review or audit and won’t post to master file UNTILL case is closed. The dates hnr are giving are the dates from the corrected edu credit form from errors that doesn’t mean the system won’t find another error but if it doesn’t than it’s about 3-5 days from the day after it’s out of errors to processes the return and up to 7 days to show on wmr
          fedup Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:35 pm
          @Bartd oh ok so basically its out of errors and finally being actually processed
          Tryntsangel Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:33 pm
          @Bartd: so I’m guessing if you get more than one accepted date, it’s because they found another error?
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:32 pm
          @fedup: meaning it’s the date it was resubmitted for processing after the errors department corrected the return
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:30 pm
          @fedup: I am ready called the new accepted dates are the date the return is being processed after the corrected edu credit form
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:27 pm
          @cant say: that’s not true. Once the irs system accepts a return it can no longer be rejected it can only be one unpostible. So hnr is not resubmitting returns . They don’t pull out returns and throw them out and say resubmit them. Cause then the fraud detection software would kick in
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:17 pm
          @JustPissedOff: call again it seems ur refund hit errors 2 times causing more if a delay . The problem with the irs is they fix on error at a time so the edu credit was first error they resubmitt it to processes computer finds another simple error and bam ur back in error wait 7 days to be corrected for that error And goes back to reprocessing. This can go on and on it’s stupid but they only fix what ever causes the return to stop processing and than it starts all over again. So call irs and say I called yesterday and was told I am in error and should be out soon so I was wondering if I am out of errors and what day did I come out of errors. Ask nothing more
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 3:04 pm
          @Tired of waiting: no they can’t answer because transcripts can’t be ordered UNTILL the return is finished processing through the computer system. That doesn’t mean if u can order a transcript your close to a refund.. Y u ask because a return can finish processing and be flagged for something if it is flagged than the return won’t post to the master file but is completed via system and goes to a human. If that’s the case the return transcripts can be ordered. But the system has to finish the return if you can’t order them the computers have not approved or denied the return but don’t get that mixed up with a return in errors. Errors is a returned needed to be fix in order for the computer to full process the return and either post to master file or flag return for further review
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 11:48 am
          @alas_stillprocessing: when they request what ever those faxes sit in a inbox till someone gets to the information. There are 2 checks done with the information. First it’s imputted in the return or reviewed to match the return if the info verifies corrected or even if it’s corrected a supervisor has to approve it as well consider it 2 signatures to be approved then the return is resubmitted for processing. Information that the irs request can take up to 45 days but is usually handled with in 2 weeks
          alas_stillprocessing Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:49 am
          @Bartd: Do you work for the IRS? How do you know preocessing time frames? My letter said it could take 4 weeks before the info they requested is updated in the system, not 5 days. When I called this morning, they STILL hadn’t input my faxed info and that was nearly two weeks ago.
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:45 am
          Ok you submitted a return irs puts it in error cause of the form glitch system is fixed they reprocess it. Irs system finds another error goes into errors resolution again now waiting to be corrected. A corrected return only takes 5 days to be corrected. Irs resubmitts for processing system can either accept it or find again another error and it goes back to be corrected this process could take forever depending on how many errors are on the return. If there is no errors the IRS system only takes 3-6 days to post to master file and get a ddd
          alas_stillprocessing Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:43 am
          @Bartd: A rep just told me that those block of filers all had issuing with the transmitting of lines 25 & 26 on the 8863 form. She checked into my return and told me nothing else was wrong, just those lines… so I’m not sure how true what your saying is. How did you get that info?
          ma4pa Mod Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:42 am | In reply to Bartd.
          @BARTD there have been problem with the EIC also
          Bartd Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:41 am
          What I am saying is people with education credits that files jan early feb should have gotten a DDD by now if they have not gotten on than there is something else wrong the irs isn’t telling you yet
          patty’s cakes are all gone Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:23 am
          @BartD:
          Try to enjoy your ddd….new people come on here all the time….this site has been a big help to me..gives me an idea of what is going on….I wish I had money going in on Wed….it never ends for me.
          Ashley Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:21 am
          @bartd how are yuh certain your getting yours on wed if yuh don’t I’m sure yuh will be back asking questions
          BartD Submitted on 2013/03/18 at 9:19 am
          Bored … Getting my money Wednesday so I have no clue y I am even on here but everyone keeps asking the same questions when they have been answered 10000 times since I even joined
          collegegirl Submitted on 2013/03/19 at 9:30 am
          Trying to reach a moderator for this site! I have a Word doc of BartD’s responses that would answer a lot of questions for ppl. I also saved the entire chat convo from last night. Where can I email the docs so an admin can post for everyone? He really helped a lot of ppl last night and gave REAL answers! He helped design the system the IRS uses and knows it from the inside out!
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            BartD  7:25 PM 03/19/13
            ok chatting on here for now
            
            BartD  7:26 PM 03/19/13
            let everyone know to  come to this page
            
            BartD  7:28 PM 03/19/13
            same I cant send pictures to show what I am drinking lol
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:28 PM 03/19/13
            Bartd if you call the irs to much will this cause them to audit your account
            
            BartD  7:28 PM 03/19/13
            digs lol no
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:28 PM 03/19/13
            LOL
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:28 PM 03/19/13
            Cause I have did my share of calling
            
            Natasha S 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            LOL Tamoya
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            LOl
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            I am just so over this you guys
            
            Natasha S 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            Tamoya join thew club 
            
            Natasha S 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            :(
            
            Christine Whitsett 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            So if the rep said she was noting my account that I called yesterday does that affect what they will tell me today?
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            :( I think its so unfair how they are treating us :(
            
            Chuck Wolbert 7:29 PM 03/19/13
            I am beyond over this BS...no one will give a straight answre
            
            mamaof4  7:30 PM 03/19/13
            Bart the agent said that unpostable was closed 3/11
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:30 PM 03/19/13
            Christine the rep told me the same thing yesterday
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:30 PM 03/19/13
            Exactly Chuck
            
            Chuck Wolbert 7:30 PM 03/19/13
            I can't even get a good answer out of my TA
            
            BartD  7:31 PM 03/19/13
            moma that's good if it closed
            
            BartD  7:31 PM 03/19/13
            u should dget a dd soon
            
            BartD  7:31 PM 03/19/13
            no it wont affect cause they cant note it a lie to get u to stop calling
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:32 PM 03/19/13
            I'm sorry Chuck :( I was trying to wait to end of the week to fax my congressman my info that he asked for trying to give the irs the benefit of the doubt but it seems like that is not a good thing
            
            Christine Whitsett 7:32 PM 03/19/13
            Okay 
            
            Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:32 PM 03/19/13
            
            Hello Bart I have been reading your post for days so I decided to post my problem. I filed on Jan 28 I was rejected, I called in Feb they said I would get a letter cause I was in errors. Not letter. I called back in march and they said that I was still in the first stage of processing and I sould be out by monday. Well monday came and gone and still same message. I had the your return has been recived and being processed you should recieve your return within 21 days. Then on March 4 it changed to still processing and a date will be provide when available. What is this referal thing i am hearing and how long can I stay in the first phase of processing. 
            
            Tawanna Stallworth Johnson Lambert
            
            2:27 PM
            
            Bart also I am self-employed have been for the last eight years and are claiming the same dependents. 
            
            I also got audited last year and had to go to tax court and I won and they paid me my money with interest.,
            
            Bart! Bart!Bart!
            
            BartD  7:32 PM 03/19/13
            wolbert TA are useless
            
            BEBE FORD 7:32 PM 03/19/13
            Bart You mention 10 days, does that mean I could get a ddd in day days 
            
            Chuck Wolbert 7:33 PM 03/19/13
            I am learning that bart
            
            BartD  7:33 PM 03/19/13
            lamert cause u hit errors again
            
            ma4pa  7:33 PM 03/19/13
            bart at times these chat rooms get filled up so I will be asking ppl who have question post them on your page can be found in the Hot Tab (purple) will you have a chance to check in from time to time
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:33 PM 03/19/13
            Chuck have you thought about emailing your Congressman
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:33 PM 03/19/13
            or woman
            
            BartD  7:34 PM 03/19/13
            ok people u heard 
            
            BartD  7:34 PM 03/19/13
            u havbr tpo post on my timeline
            
            jemar2013  7:34 PM 03/19/13
            We are loading all BartD transcript to another area for reference.  Please use https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/ for all future comments that follow our new super start, BartD.
            
            Chuck Wolbert 7:34 PM 03/19/13
            no I have not yet...but my congressman does community calls almost every week so the next time they call I think i am going go get involved...the last time they called I was on the phone with the IRS
            
            Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:34 PM 03/19/13
            bart please answer my questions before you go
            
            BartD  7:35 PM 03/19/13
            tell everyone to post on my timeline thanks guys we don't want to cost them a lot ill be on chat later after the updates
            
            BartD  7:35 PM 03/19/13
            lambert
            
            BartD  7:35 PM 03/19/13
            shoot what was it real quick'
            
            Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:35 PM 03/19/13
            
            Hello Bart I have been reading your post for days so I decided to post my problem. I filed on Jan 28 I was rejected, I called in Feb they said I would get a letter cause I was in errors. Not letter. I called back in march and they said that I was still in the first stage of processing and I sould be out by monday. Well monday came and gone and still same message. I had the your return has been recived and being processed you should recieve your return within 21 days. Then on March 4 it changed to still processing and a date will be provide when available. What is this referal thing i am hearing and how long can I stay in the first phase of processing. 
            
            Tawanna Stallworth Johnson Lambert
            
            2:27 PM
            
            Bart also I am self-employed have been for the last eight years and are claiming the same dependents. 
            
            I also got audited last year and had to go to tax court and I won and they paid me my money with interest.,
            
            Bart! Bart!Bart!
            
            TaxDramaMama  7:35 PM 03/19/13
            who the heck is Bart?
            
            jemar2013  7:35 PM 03/19/13
            lol... https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/  see this page for BartD background and future comments.
            
            BartD  7:36 PM 03/19/13
            I am getting offf
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:36 PM 03/19/13
            Chuck maybe you will get better result. I hoping my congressman will. Wishing you the best Chuck. 
            
            BartD  7:36 PM 03/19/13
            answer lambert
            
            Chuck Wolbert 7:36 PM 03/19/13
            same to you Tamoya
            
            BartD  7:36 PM 03/19/13
            is ur bring looked at 
            
            BartD  7:36 PM 03/19/13
            POST ON MY PAGE GUY BYE TALK SOON
            
            Tamoya Diggs 7:37 PM 03/19/13
            Thanks Chuck and Thanks BartD

             

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              Quintell Moore 2:53 PM 03/19/13
              hey BartD have a question
              
              College  Girl 2:53 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD - tax topic showed up this morning and refund amount disappeared - how long til DDD?
              
              Rhonda Reagan 2:53 PM 03/19/13
              thats what I want to know
              
              Quintell Moore 2:54 PM 03/19/13
              how long does it general take to get your refund back after your amount has disappeared
              
              Natasha S 2:54 PM 03/19/13
              ?
              
              BartD  2:54 PM 03/19/13
              hi guys I got on early but this is going to be off and on cause I am working on something for apple
              
              BartD  2:55 PM 03/19/13
              amount diapearing means yor in errors and or errors has completed
              
              Quintell Moore 2:55 PM 03/19/13
              I'm Happy
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  2:55 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD STATUS BAR GONE AND IT SAID STILL BEING PROCESS DD DATE WHEN AVAILABLE WITH TAX TOPIC 152
              
              BartD  2:55 PM 03/19/13
              in errors meaning someone is actually currently fixing it and its not sitting there
              
              College  Girl 2:56 PM 03/19/13
              Whew, so it's a good thing! Means progress!
              
              BartD  2:56 PM 03/19/13
              team us same answer
              
              BartD  2:56 PM 03/19/13
              means great progress ur not in que your being looked out
              
              BartD  2:56 PM 03/19/13
              errors general takes 5 days or less unless its a big error
              
              Natasha S 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              Bart woke up this morning amount was gone topic 152 was back still cant order transcripts 
              
              Natasha S 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              what does this mean
              
              College  Girl 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD - I emailed Mod your responses from last night's chat so hopefully they will post on this site today so ppl can view that info
              
              BartD  2:57 PM 03/19/13
              as soon as ur out off errors and back in normal processing count to 10
              
              BartD  2:57 PM 03/19/13
              girl thank you
              
              Missy Smith 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              gm Bart 
              
              Natasha S 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              Missy
              
              BartD  2:57 PM 03/19/13
              gm everyone
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  2:57 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD THANKS SO ARE U SAYIN I SHOULD SEE A DD DATE SOON IF ITS NOT A BIG ERROR
              
              firstjustme  2:57 PM 03/19/13
              how many ID verification sites are there??
              
              Quintell Moore 2:57 PM 03/19/13
              i did thanks CollegeGirl
              
              BartD  2:58 PM 03/19/13
              yes 
              
              Keisha Walker 2:58 PM 03/19/13
              Hey Bart ;) so i called this am and talked to 2 different agents adn they both could only say "your in errors allow 4-6 weeks" and when i asked why i ws in errors they couldnt give me an answer any suggestions?
              
              Charlene Harrison Scott Gamboa 2:58 PM 03/19/13
              what happens if your amt is still there and it just says processing? they said i was out of errors
              
              BartD  2:58 PM 03/19/13
              topic there no amount = errors department lookin at it and fixing it
              
              BartD  2:59 PM 03/19/13
              walker errors department had a line reference code call and ask what that is
              
              Rhonda Reagan 2:59 PM 03/19/13
              I was talk to very bad yesterday, how can I make a complaint
              
              Natasha S 2:59 PM 03/19/13
              they told me i was out of errors since 2/28
              
              Natasha S 2:59 PM 03/19/13
              thats stupid smh
              
              Quintell Moore 2:59 PM 03/19/13
              how long does the still processing generally take
              
              Missy Smith 2:59 PM 03/19/13
              I called irs again this morning and now they are saying another 6-8 weeks for 4883c letter and unpostable I verified on 2/25
              
              SueL  2:59 PM 03/19/13
              Hey Bart, SueL here...what's your take on the sending in or not sending in 12c letter...too many different answers out there
              
              BartD  2:59 PM 03/19/13
              gambo means ur back in normal processing again
              
              BartD  3:00 PM 03/19/13
              12c related o fiscal cliff = not to send
              
              lovely1  3:00 PM 03/19/13
              bart has any 4464 received their money?
              
              BartD  3:00 PM 03/19/13
              all ltrs related to fiscal clift have been suspended
              
              Natasha S 3:01 PM 03/19/13
              Bart i still cant order my transcripts does this mean anything
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:01 PM 03/19/13
              @Bart I was talk to very bad yesterday, how can I make a complaint
              
              Natasha S 3:01 PM 03/19/13
              my amount is gone and topic 152 is back
              
              BartD  3:01 PM 03/19/13
              4464c ltrs are bad ltrs one  of the worst to get ad most annoying irs can take 0 days to review account
              
              BartD  3:01 PM 03/19/13
              so 4464c ltrs expect delays and right now aren't a priority 
              
              Charlene Harrison Scott Gamboa 3:01 PM 03/19/13
              what if your amt is still there, no tax topic, and just says processing? in errors?  or not even touched yet?
              
              BartD  3:01 PM 03/19/13
              due to the other issues
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:01 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD MY AMOUNT IS STILL THERE THOUGH BUT DA BAR STATUS IS GONE THAT STIL MEAN IM IN ERROR 
              
              lovely1  3:02 PM 03/19/13
              wow my 60 days are coming up so i might have to wait pass the 60 days?
              
              BartD  3:02 PM 03/19/13
              I topic 152 there or gone
              
              firstjustme  3:02 PM 03/19/13
              do you know how many ID verification sites there are?? Hate to think that there is only one doing all the work
              
              Patty Soos 3:02 PM 03/19/13
              Hi Bart...you are famous now..ha ha ..we are so glad to have someone who knows what is happening....not just guessing
              
              Quintell Moore 3:03 PM 03/19/13
              my 152 is there just checked
              
              BartD  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              yes any 4464c ltrs have a review of 45 days than irs can iniate another ltr delaying it another 45days
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD TOPIC 152 IS THERE BEEN SEEING THAT SINCE I START CHECKING ON WR
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              WMR
              
              SueL  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              no topic 152 just says still processing and amount on the left
              
              BartD  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              than ur either in errors or out and in normal processing and u wont have a big issue unless u get flagged
              
              SueL  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              no bars either
              
              ma4pa  3:03 PM 03/19/13
              now the 4464 is the letter for what wages?
              
              BartD  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              suel yeah ur under review different than being in errors
              
              SueL  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              wait, what?  
              
              lovely1  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              wooww they told me not to take any action and that they have up to 60 days and if they donot send any letter out then they will have to just give me money april 1st is dat true?
              
              BartD  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              ur under review 
              
              Natasha S 3:04 PM 03/19/13
              Sue i was on that boat until yesterday
              
              SueL  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              tons of people have that same issue...
              
              SueL  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              it's been that way since 3/4
              
              Natasha S 3:04 PM 03/19/13
              today everything changed amount disappeared and now topic 152 is there 
              
              BartD  3:04 PM 03/19/13
              suel under review doesn't mean auditguys!
              
              Natasha S 3:04 PM 03/19/13
              finally changed this morning
              
              Natasha S 3:05 PM 03/19/13
              dont klnow if it reallt meants anything though
              
              Missy Smith 3:05 PM 03/19/13
              congrats Natasha
              
              BartD  3:05 PM 03/19/13
              means that ur return has to be reviewed by an agent 
              
              BartD  3:05 PM 03/19/13
              that's it
              
              Calvin Mesh 3:05 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD File 2/5 accepted 2/14 verified 3/15 status remain the same as per WMR... Do I need to call again? was told 4-6 wks to process.
              
              SueL  3:05 PM 03/19/13
              we owe from 2011 and now have arrangements, could that be why?
              
              Stephanie Collins 3:05 PM 03/19/13
              Hey BartD what about my 1571 code...NO EDUCATION stuff..lol.  Filed 2/4 and take action with that code wince 2/14
              
              ma4pa  3:05 PM 03/19/13
              @natasha it sounds good for a ddd within 1-5 days
              
              BartD  3:05 PM 03/19/13
              suel yed 
              
              Missy Smith 3:05 PM 03/19/13
              I called irs again this morning and now they are saying another 6-8 weeks for 4883c letter and unpostable I verified on 2/25
              
              Natasha S 3:06 PM 03/19/13
              omg thank you ma4pa i really do hope so 
              
              SueL  3:06 PM 03/19/13
              I have an TA that is supposed to be helping...
              
              lovely1  3:06 PM 03/19/13
              wooww they told me not to take any action and that they have up to 60 days and if they donot send any letter out then they will have to just give me money april 1st is dat true?
              
              Charlene Harrison Scott Gamboa 3:06 PM 03/19/13
              so if I am in review, how long does review usually take, 
              
              ma4pa  3:06 PM 03/19/13
              @SUEL are they really helping?
              
              Natasha S 3:06 PM 03/19/13
              i swear if it wasnt for this website i would have gone insane 
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:06 PM 03/19/13
              Yeah my TA is awful...told me to borrow money from friends,family, or banks...why would she tell me this
              
              College  Girl 3:06 PM 03/19/13
              @natasha - you and 600,000 other ppl lol
              
              SueL  3:07 PM 03/19/13
              maybe??  
              
              firstjustme  3:07 PM 03/19/13
              bart...do you know how many ID verification sites there are
              
              Natasha S 3:07 PM 03/19/13
              lol College Girl 
              
              Natasha S 3:07 PM 03/19/13
              seriously this has been a nightmare
              
              BartD  3:08 PM 03/19/13
              Natasha means ur being looked out and getting ready for normal processing
              
              Charlene Harrison Scott Gamboa 3:08 PM 03/19/13
              how long does review last?
              
              Justin Carroll 3:08 PM 03/19/13
              my amt went away this AM and tax topic 152 is up. :-/
              
              BartD  3:08 PM 03/19/13
              suel the TA really don't help
              
              Missy Smith 3:09 PM 03/19/13
              I called irs again this morning and now they are saying another 6-8 weeks for 4883c letter and unpostable I verified on 2/25
              
              Natasha S 3:09 PM 03/19/13
              Justin same as me 
              
              BartD  3:09 PM 03/19/13
              tax topic is a secrete line for us to know
              
              Natasha S 3:09 PM 03/19/13
              i am hearing this is good news
              
              SueL  3:09 PM 03/19/13
              Bartd, i don't think you're my friend today :(...you're not making me very happy....
              
              Quintell Moore 3:09 PM 03/19/13
              Me too Justin
              
              BartD  3:09 PM 03/19/13
              tax top means nothing to WMR but means everything to where ur return is
              
              SueL  3:09 PM 03/19/13
              how long do you think it can take?  we filed 2/14 and have 8863
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:09 PM 03/19/13
              I was just glad to just see a change
              
              BartD  3:09 PM 03/19/13
              suel I am sorry
              
              Quintell Moore 3:10 PM 03/19/13
              Me too Rhonda
              
              lovely1  3:10 PM 03/19/13
              bart do u think i should call them again?
              
              Stephanie Collins 3:10 PM 03/19/13
              Hey BartD what about my 1571 code...NO EDUCATION stuff..lol. Filed 2/4 and take action with that code wince 2/14????
              
              BartD  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              suel i would say as long as the offset is not to bad and someone actually looks at ur return soon it wont be 2 much longer
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:11 PM 03/19/13
              im calling because I want to know where mine is
              
              BartD  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              Suel weithin 2 weeks my guess
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:11 PM 03/19/13
              I was told that I came out of errors 3/11-3/15
              
              Tracy Becker 3:11 PM 03/19/13
              same here bart just lost amt and 152 back 
              
              BartD  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              1571 old code freeze 
              
              SueL  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              it's only under $600...and our refund is much larger
              
              BartD  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              rarely used anymore 
              
              BartD  3:11 PM 03/19/13
              out dated form
              
              BartD  3:12 PM 03/19/13
              must call irs
              
              lovely1  3:12 PM 03/19/13
              so bart i should just wait until my 60 days are up to call  them?
              
              Stephanie Collins 3:12 PM 03/19/13
              the freeze code is 570....the 1571 is due to my erroneous refund....
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:12 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD DO YOU THINK I SHOULD CALL THEM AND SEE WHATS GOING ON YESTERDAY MADE THE 21DAY AND ALL IM SEEING IS STILL BEING PROCESS REFUND WHEN AVAILABLE TAX TOPIC 152 AND MY AMOUNT IS STILL THERE
              
              SueL  3:12 PM 03/19/13
              and TA told me she submitted to operations and is supposed to hear back tomorrow
              
              BartD  3:12 PM 03/19/13
              Collins expect no refund anytime soon
              
              BartD  3:13 PM 03/19/13
              SUEL IRS wont move any faster
              
              BartD  3:13 PM 03/19/13
              HE IRS SEE THE STAUS
              
              firstjustme  3:13 PM 03/19/13
              do you know anything about the 4883c--ID verification process
              
              BartD  3:13 PM 03/19/13
              call the irs
              
              SueL  3:14 PM 03/19/13
              we've been in errors forever, probably since at least 2/28
              
              BartD  3:14 PM 03/19/13
              and lie thoses who have edu state they don't '
              
              lovely1  3:14 PM 03/19/13
              bart do u think i will receive my refund soon??
              
              BartD  3:14 PM 03/19/13
              being in errors and having erros fix it are 2 different things
              
              BartD  3:14 PM 03/19/13
              all errors must have 2 approval levels
              
              BartD  3:15 PM 03/19/13
              kirs rep must fix supervisor must finalize
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:15 PM 03/19/13
              @BARTD ARE U TELLING ME T CALL IRS?
              
              BartD  3:15 PM 03/19/13
              RIDER yes
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:15 PM 03/19/13
              OKAY 
              
              Missy Smith 3:15 PM 03/19/13
              I called irs again this morning and now they are saying another 6-8 weeks for 4883c letter and unpostable I verified on 2/25
              
              lovely1  3:15 PM 03/19/13
              hey bart
              
              ma4pa  3:16 PM 03/19/13
              @EVERYONE if you call be sure and ask the right questions
              
              BartD  3:16 PM 03/19/13
              SMITH it wont take that long cut that in half
              
              BartD  3:16 PM 03/19/13
              yes ask the right Qustions
              
              BartD  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              lovely1 hi
              
              ma4pa  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              dont be vague be specific
              
              BartD  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              extremel specific 
              
              lovely1  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              i am a 4464c and my 60 days are up on april 1st and i havent got anything sent out to me do yu think i will receive my refund on or before april first??
              
              BartD  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              ask them what error code ur have there always is
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:17 PM 03/19/13
              what do I ask if I want to know exactly where mine is
              
              SueL  3:17 PM 03/19/13
              are you still wiling to give our a number or email so people can send you questions?
              
              BartD  3:18 PM 03/19/13
              lovel;y1 its possible but unlikely
              
              BartD  3:18 PM 03/19/13
              u don't ask u tell them
              
              Charlene Harrison Scott Gamboa 3:18 PM 03/19/13
              Bart...is there a deadline that they have to get all those affected by 8863 out?
              
              lovely1  3:18 PM 03/19/13
              wow people dat have dat letter always have to wait longer?
              
              BartD  3:18 PM 03/19/13
              lie stated this
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:18 PM 03/19/13
              so just tell them I want to know
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:19 PM 03/19/13
              im on hold now waiting for them to answer
              
              BartD  3:19 PM 03/19/13
              i called 3 days ago was told i was getting ready to come out of errors no edu credit and i want to know if i am still there and if so what is the refrence line code aka error code from the errors departement
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:20 PM 03/19/13
              yeah, but dont they keep track of when you call
              
              BartD  3:20 PM 03/19/13
              no myth
              
              firstjustme  3:20 PM 03/19/13
              yes they do rhonda...they write everything done or are supposed to
              
              BartD  3:20 PM 03/19/13
              there is only a log files that shows when and who opened a return
              
              BartD  3:20 PM 03/19/13
              they don't 
              
              lovely1  3:21 PM 03/19/13
              wish me luch hopefully i receive a dd soon.......hopefully
              
              firstjustme  3:21 PM 03/19/13
              several years in a row, i have had reps read back all their notes of my phone calls
              
              Tracy Becker 3:21 PM 03/19/13
              so since my amt gone and 152 back if i call will they give me a ddd on the phone?
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:21 PM 03/19/13
              the rep tried to tell me this morning "I have no clue where you are and when it will be completed"
              
              BartD  3:21 PM 03/19/13
              they lie the people that say they do are the pople u talked to more than omce cause they can see they previously opened that return
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:22 PM 03/19/13
              here we go
              
              lovely1  3:22 PM 03/19/13
              do they really know?
              
              BartD  3:22 PM 03/19/13
              beckerno but they will tell u if ur out off errors and ask when u started processing again
              
              BartD  3:22 PM 03/19/13
              count to ten from there
              
              firstjustme  3:22 PM 03/19/13
              obviously different reps have told me convos with other reps....so maybe its changes.
              
              Quintell Moore 3:22 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD how long does it take to get a DDD after your amount and 152 tax topic shows on the WMR?
              
              Tracy Becker 3:22 PM 03/19/13
              thank you bart
              
              firstjustme  3:23 PM 03/19/13
              do you know any info about the 4883c process??
              
              BartD  3:24 PM 03/19/13
              firsttimeme  i know for a fact they cant there is no log input in the system
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:24 PM 03/19/13
              thats the first ive ever had a rep ask me about my 2011
              
              BartD  3:24 PM 03/19/13
              god if they did everytime u all cslled they system would crash
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:24 PM 03/19/13
              she just ask if i filed the same amount of people this year as last
              
              BartD  3:24 PM 03/19/13
              security questions are random
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:25 PM 03/19/13
              o ok
              
              BartD  3:25 PM 03/19/13
              what ever someone want to ask
              
              BartD  3:25 PM 03/19/13
              just have to verify 4-5 points on any3 tax returnd
              
              lovely1  3:25 PM 03/19/13
              yea dey asked me dat too they asked me about my son
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:25 PM 03/19/13
              ok she is checking...im on hold
              
              BartD  3:25 PM 03/19/13
              Reagan ok
              
              Quintell Moore 3:26 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD no answer for me
              
              BartD  3:26 PM 03/19/13
              i am writing up a bill for HRB \
              
              Arlene Lindsey 3:26 PM 03/19/13
              bart im in processing they said n my amount dissappered on the 13 n 14 n they contact sbtpg for my account it wasnt there a two weeks ago she said iv been processing seance the 16 th of march how much longer
              
              BartD  3:26 PM 03/19/13
              moore what did u sat
              
              Quintell Moore 3:27 PM 03/19/13
              How long does it take to get a DDD after your amount has disappeared but, the tax topic is there.
              
              BartD  3:27 PM 03/19/13
              lidnesy real processing is 5 days for the computer to complete if u been processing since the 16th than u hit errors 2 times
              
              Brown_Bear  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              @Quintell, mine was the ver next morning
              
              BartD  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              moore usally 10-15 days
              
              Quintell Moore 3:28 PM 03/19/13
              @Brown thank you :)
              
              Missy Smith 3:28 PM 03/19/13
              bart I was told today that no one is assigned to look at your unpostable that it is all first come first serve
              
              Quintell Moore 3:28 PM 03/19/13
              Thanks BartD
              
              BartD  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              bear urs just updated slow
              
              BartD  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              on WMR
              
              Brown_Bear  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              slow?  thats pretty fast to me
              
              BartD  3:28 PM 03/19/13
              lol i mean for it to diapear and reapear
              
              BartD  3:29 PM 03/19/13
              if the error is fixed same day as it hits errors i will be a lot quicker
              
              Tracy Becker 3:29 PM 03/19/13
              i should have mine mon then
              
              BartD  3:29 PM 03/19/13
              becker in theory as long as no flags or more errorsd
              
              Tracy Becker 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              that would be nice lol
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              still on hold...she must be doing some heavy checking
              
              BartD  3:30 PM 03/19/13
              Reagan that's what u want
              
              Quintell Moore 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              yes it would be nice @ Tracy
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              ty
              
              Tracy Becker 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              i still say that hrb should refund our fees
              
              Magdalena Sativa 3:30 PM 03/19/13
              is refund amount disappearing and tax topic appearing generally considered a good sign of progress?  
              
              Quintell Moore 3:31 PM 03/19/13
              @Tracy I agree
              
              BartD  3:31 PM 03/19/13
              good sign
              
              mamaof4  3:31 PM 03/19/13
              Am I the only one that still has bars ??
              
              Magdalena Sativa 3:31 PM 03/19/13
              thanks bart
              
              Tracy Becker 3:31 PM 03/19/13
              the rep told me that even though it shows that my boxes were checked on my return that it showed not checked on computer. other than that no errors
              
              SueL  3:32 PM 03/19/13
              I wish I had bars...
              
              Magdalena Sativa 3:32 PM 03/19/13
              ... of xanax
              
              Magdalena Sativa 3:32 PM 03/19/13
              jk :D
              
              Tracy Becker 3:32 PM 03/19/13
              i just know i want this over with so i can go on with my life 
              
              BartD  3:32 PM 03/19/13
              becker they can only say no errors because as of now no code has posted
              
              BartD  3:33 PM 03/19/13
              everything has refrence codes good or bad
              
              Revillie Trenary 3:33 PM 03/19/13
              LOL Magdalena, if you find any, SHARE!
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:34 PM 03/19/13
              Hi Bart. I still have all my information on the left side. and the generic status of you are being processed and a date will be provide as soon as possible. I have several friends who are still in the same boat as me. When I spoke to someone last they said I was out of error and that the irs had corrected it on Feb 20th but I don't know if I could believe them because they have told me so many different things. 
              
              BartD  3:35 PM 03/19/13
              diggsif u were out 2/20 u went back into erros for a different reason and most likely out of errors again u should have a ddd soon if u didn't get flagged
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:36 PM 03/19/13
              she is telling me nothing
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              reagan
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              nothing
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              nothing as what
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              are u in errors
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:36 PM 03/19/13
              hold on
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              when did u start reprocessing
              
              BartD  3:36 PM 03/19/13
              ask demand to know
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:37 PM 03/19/13
              saws she cant see
              
              BartD  3:37 PM 03/19/13
              cant see what
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:37 PM 03/19/13
              When you say flagged what does that mean? and when I spoke to the lady yesterday she said as of yesterday I can start counting down until when I can get my refund.
              
              SueL  3:37 PM 03/19/13
              bartd, i said the same basic thing as diggs and you told me i was still in errors?  sorry i am confused
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:37 PM 03/19/13
              says no dates on anything
              
              BartD  3:37 PM 03/19/13
              digs means u will be fine
              
              BartD  3:38 PM 03/19/13
              ragan u don't want a date u want to know where it is
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:38 PM 03/19/13
              ok
              
              BartD  3:38 PM 03/19/13
              in errors or out of
              
              BartD  3:38 PM 03/19/13
              when it started processing again
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:38 PM 03/19/13
              out of ers
              
              BartD  3:39 PM 03/19/13
              when did it start reporcessing
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:39 PM 03/19/13
              still be processed
              
              BartD  3:40 PM 03/19/13
              what day
              
              BartD  3:40 PM 03/19/13
              that's important
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:40 PM 03/19/13
              she is just refusing..saying no date is showing whatsoever
              
              BartD  3:41 PM 03/19/13
              she is a bitch
              
              Natasha S 3:41 PM 03/19/13
              Bart i was told i was reprocessing as of 2/28 same generic message up till this morning no amount tax topic 152 up now 
              
              Natasha S 3:41 PM 03/19/13
              what does that mean affirmitively
              
              BartD  3:41 PM 03/19/13
              Natasha ur close
              
              BartD  3:42 PM 03/19/13
              natasha call Friday after five my guess u will have a ddd
              
              Natasha S 3:42 PM 03/19/13
              thanks Bart
              
              Natasha S 3:42 PM 03/19/13
              okay thank you
              
              Natasha S 3:42 PM 03/19/13
              hopefully *fingers crossed*
              
              TEAM US_?DILLA_RIDER  3:42 PM 03/19/13
              @REAGAN DO U REMEMBERHER NAME CAUSE IM BOUT TO CALL AND IF I GET HER I WILL HANG UP AND CALL AGAIN LOL I NEED COMPLETE ANSWER LOL
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:42 PM 03/19/13
              I was told I went back into processing on March 9th. How long should I expect it to be from there before I get worried?
              
              Calvin Mesh 3:42 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD File 2/5 accepted 2/14 verified 3/15 status remain the same as per WMR... Do I need to call again? was told 4-6 wks to process. My status has not change since accepted 2/14... what's the hold up I already verified my 4883c ltr...
              
              BartD  3:42 PM 03/19/13
              i want badge number of all that are rude
              
              Revillie Trenary 3:43 PM 03/19/13
              If we've had TT 152 since Friday... should we expect some sort of change in the next few days? I've seen some people say they sat for a MONTH or more with TT 152
              
              Natasha S 3:43 PM 03/19/13
              Bart oh i cant order transcripts does that even mean anything
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:43 PM 03/19/13
              I can't order transcripts either
              
              BartD  3:43 PM 03/19/13
              4883c seems to be a big issue its a new system and a lot of people are being hit hard orry about that but it will take time
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:44 PM 03/19/13
              she says I have no error code and no dates
              
              BartD  3:44 PM 03/19/13
              sauer ur not completed stage 1 pof processing
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:44 PM 03/19/13
              thats all she would tell me and I demanded
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:44 PM 03/19/13
              I emailed my congressman a week ago. He emailed me back to give him my information. Since the IRS said they were trying to fix everything I was going to wait until the end of the week to fax him over my information. Do you think this would do any good?
              
              BartD  3:44 PM 03/19/13
              regan hang up and call again
              
              Rhonda Reagan 3:44 PM 03/19/13
              ok what ext
              
              BartD  3:45 PM 03/19/13
              say i was in error i want the date i started reporcessing
              
              BartD  3:45 PM 03/19/13
              that's it
              
              BartD  3:45 PM 03/19/13
              462
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:45 PM 03/19/13
              I went back into processing on March 9th according to the rep I spoke to. Is it normal to still not be done with the first stage of processing?
              
              BartD  3:45 PM 03/19/13
              suer no its not normal processing is on 5 days even though they say 21
              
              lisa randall 3:45 PM 03/19/13
              Hi BartD...you seem to know this business well. I hope all is true, bc I have same story as most accepted 2/14 (8863), today amt missing & tax topic 152..hope this is good sign
              
              Hannah Lee 3:46 PM 03/19/13
              I have no bars, haven't since 3/4, amount is still there. no tax top 152, can't order transcripts. Is there ANY hope in sight?
              
              BartD  3:46 PM 03/19/13
              ur missing opic 152 is not a good sign
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:46 PM 03/19/13
              So should I call them again?
              
              Hannah Lee 3:46 PM 03/19/13
              it was there before, but once the bars disappeared so did 152
              
              Natasha S 3:47 PM 03/19/13
              Bart does not being able to order transcripts mean anything?
              
              BartD  3:47 PM 03/19/13
              152 gone means its still in limpo aka que
              
              Hannah Lee 3:47 PM 03/19/13
              still processing you mean?
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:47 PM 03/19/13
              I don't have topic 152 either
              
              BartD  3:47 PM 03/19/13
              natasha yeah mens stage 1 processing is in complete cannot post
              
              Hannah Lee 3:47 PM 03/19/13
              so probably because of 8863?
              
              Natasha S 3:47 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok
              
              Tracy Becker 3:48 PM 03/19/13
              im off thanks bart for the info, will be back tomorrow to update
              
              mamaof4  3:48 PM 03/19/13
              Bart since i have the orange bar will i lose the bar before i get a ddd?? amount? tax topic? 
              
              BartD  3:48 PM 03/19/13
              becker bye
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:48 PM 03/19/13
              II emailed my congressman a week ago. He emailed me back to give him my information. Since the IRS said they were trying to fix everything I was going to wait until the end of the week to fax him over my information. Do you think this would do any good?
              
              Hannah Lee 3:48 PM 03/19/13
              should I be calling anyone to get out of phase 1? or am i just in the unlucky batch that is still trying to get back into processing?
              
              BartD  3:49 PM 03/19/13
              Diggs congressmen are better than TA higher authority and don't hinder ur ability to talk to the irs
              
              BartD  3:49 PM 03/19/13
              lee stage 1 is all computer 
              
              Sonya Whirl 3:49 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, I have a code 570 with a date of 3/25.  I rec'd a 4464c letter dated 2/26 but have not rec'd anything else.  I ordered both transcripts and rec'd them both.  Does that mean on 3/25, I will receive another letter extending my wait out even further?
              
              Hannah Lee 3:49 PM 03/19/13
              i'm sorry, i don't understand, computer?
              
              BartD  3:50 PM 03/19/13
              nothing anyone can do that's where it passes or sends to errors
              
              Hannah Lee 3:50 PM 03/19/13
              ahh
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:50 PM 03/19/13
              Sauer did you file through HR Block?
              
              Calvin Mesh 3:50 PM 03/19/13
              Bart-What's the hold up with the 4883c if you already verified and passed the verification stage and was told you will be place back in processing. My taxes was accepted 2/14 been waiting ever since WMR staus has not chg since 2/14.
              
              BartD  3:50 PM 03/19/13
              lee meaning its where the computer processes and checks for errors an mssing or incomplete forms
              
              Tamoya Diggs 3:51 PM 03/19/13
              That's great to know. So I will fax over my information on Friday. If I do not hear anything from them by then. Thank you so much
              
              Hannah Lee 3:52 PM 03/19/13
              so hopefully i'll see change soon then? since the irs and hrblock were supposed to fix the mistake
              
              BartD  3:52 PM 03/19/13
              mesh 4483 are in limbo and actually in about 2 hours i am going to call someone and find out why the processing stopped on those who verified
              
              BartD  3:52 PM 03/19/13
              4883c might be a software issue on our end this is why
              
              BartD  3:55 PM 03/19/13
              ur stopped cause the computer suspects fraud and it is very picky this year even a different back account number can trigger it now that return becomes unpostiable. that account is verified and resubmitted. it seems to me that the system is still rejecting it after its verified fore the same reason it di before and they have to be manually by passed y i cant tell you until i find out my self
              
              BartD  3:56 PM 03/19/13
              think about it this way ur the computer 
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:57 PM 03/19/13
              Yes Tamoya I filed HR Block 1/26
              
              Gabriel Reilly 3:57 PM 03/19/13
              So if refund has been processing since March 9th, and WMR says, "still processing" then there is a good chance that my refund has been flagged?  Or just not looked at yet?
              
              jennifer taylor 3:57 PM 03/19/13
              Bartd remember i told you last night im a 4883c verified 2/22 still NOTHING!
              
              Gabriel Reilly 3:57 PM 03/19/13
              No tax topic no change for several weeks...
              
              Gabriel Reilly 3:58 PM 03/19/13
              oh and Bart, thanks for your info...
              
              BartD  3:58 PM 03/19/13
              u suspect id theft fraud what ever u reject it and send it to be verified no the return is verified an u send the same return back to  u what has no changes to it what would u think oh wait to just rejected thi i am sending it back. they get it back and say oh they already verified we have to send it to manual writing to be put through
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 3:59 PM 03/19/13
              I filed HR Block 1/26 Child tax credit, EIC, 8863, accepted FEb. 14th, sent to errors Feb. 18th. Back to normal processing (supposedly) 3/9. I have no tax topic or anythin on WMR. Just generic still processing message. I don't know what to do.
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:00 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, I have a code 570 with a date of 3/25. I rec'd a 4464c letter dated 2/26 but have not rec'd anything else. I ordered both transcripts and rec'd them both. Does that mean on 3/25, I will receive another letter extending my wait out even further?
              
              BartD  4:00 PM 03/19/13
              sauer ur just not in normally processing
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:00 PM 03/19/13
              Tamara me too. Did HR Block give you the processing date of March 9th. January 30. EIC, 1 dependent and 8863
              
              Missy Smith 4:00 PM 03/19/13
              bart I was told today that no one is assigned to look at your unpostable that it is all first come first serve
              
              BartD  4:01 PM 03/19/13
              smith there u go
              
              BartD  4:01 PM 03/19/13
              ur in limbo
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:01 PM 03/19/13
              How do I find out where it is at then? They won't give me any real info. Just generic messages.
              
              Missy Smith 4:01 PM 03/19/13
              I'm in a mess is what I'm in...lol
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:01 PM 03/19/13
              Same here Missy lol
              
              BartD  4:02 PM 03/19/13
              Sauer 4464c there is no info cause they haven't even looked at it
              
              Calvin Mesh 4:02 PM 03/19/13
              once this is done how long a wait?. Was told 4-6 wks.
              
              Gabriel Reilly 4:02 PM 03/19/13
              I wonder if an advocate would help [email protected]'m in the same boat as you.  Generic processing message, no change, no info whenI call.
              
              Missy Smith 4:02 PM 03/19/13
              and what is limbo...
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:02 PM 03/19/13
              What is 4464c?
              
              BartD  4:02 PM 03/19/13
              sorry that wasn't for u
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:02 PM 03/19/13
              oh okay
              
              BartD  4:02 PM 03/19/13
              hard to respond to all these
              
              mamaof4  4:02 PM 03/19/13
              Bart since i have the orange bar will i lose the bar before i get a ddd?? amount? tax topic? 
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:03 PM 03/19/13
              I spoke to an HR Block rep last night and I told him straight up don't start throwing out dates to me. He was honest and told me March 9th was the date that everyone should have started processing but not meaning it happen. That date is also around the time the HR Block President made his apology, which aint holding up to nothing. :(
              
              BartD  4:03 PM 03/19/13
              no u wont lose a bar if u never hit errors or review
              
              BartD  4:03 PM 03/19/13
              HRB are retarted
              
              mamaof4  4:03 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              Bartd thank you so much you are truly helping a lot of people. 
              
              BartD  4:04 PM 03/19/13
              and not everyone is processed that date
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              and yes they are!
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              Exactly
              
              Hannah Lee 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              I just emailed my congress representative as well. At this point, anything helps!
              
              Missy Smith 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              I just got the privacy papers from my congressman
              
              BartD  4:04 PM 03/19/13
              lee congressmen are great source
              
              BartD  4:04 PM 03/19/13
              irs responds better to gov officalls
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, so you're saying that they haven't even looked at my return and the 3/25 date on my transcript means nothing.  I filed and accepted on 2/18.  Just to be clear, I will probably be receiving another letter (probably at cp05 letter extending my wait further, right?
              
              Missy Smith 4:04 PM 03/19/13
              I will be mailing them today
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:05 PM 03/19/13
              I am on hold with irs now to get an actual processing date. If they are not helpful I am not going to wait until Friday to fax the stuff to my congressman. I will do it today before I leave work.
              
              25er  4:05 PM 03/19/13
              2/25er..no letters..no codes..ordered transcripts last friday..then saturday morning lost orange bar and still processing date availible appeared...????????????
              
              BartD  4:05 PM 03/19/13
              whirl 3/25 is the date they have to respond or correct it
              
              Amanda H 4:05 PM 03/19/13
              @Bartd, same story as everyone else, called yesterday and was told I got correct on 3/13 and was in normal process yesterday.  called today and told normal processing but the lady said that my return stated I should receive it within 4 weeks, she said this is good because all the other ones she has looked at has said 4-6 weeks, is there an end is site for me?
              
              Calvin Mesh 4:05 PM 03/19/13
              Bart- What should I do in my case.
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:05 PM 03/19/13
              Ok, so I filed 1/31, accepted 2/14 due to 8863, no bars as of 3/5, called IRS, they said I was in errors, should receive letter in two weeks and the lady hung up on me.  No changes since then until this morning, Refund amount disappeared on WMR and tax topic 152 showed up.  Thoughts?
              
              BartD  4:06 PM 03/19/13
              25er ur in stage 2 which means ur were flagged forsomething small or big
              
              25er  4:06 PM 03/19/13
              smh...thanx
              
              Missy Smith 4:07 PM 03/19/13
              bart is it normal to be unpostable for 7 weeks
              
              BartD  4:07 PM 03/19/13
              smith yes
              
              Arlene Lindsey 4:07 PM 03/19/13
              what if u processing date is the 18th
              
              Missy Smith 4:08 PM 03/19/13
              is there a statue of limitations on unpostables
              
              BartD  4:08 PM 03/19/13
              allessi see if your out of errors and what date ustarted processing
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:08 PM 03/19/13
              What does cycle 20131005 mean?  They have an amount with that cycle date on my account transcript
              
              Gabriel Reilly 4:08 PM 03/19/13
              so if I filed 1/27 with 8863 and I have been processing since early march, (irs Rep said since the 9th) I'm being flagged or just stuck in computer hell?
              
              25er  4:08 PM 03/19/13
              bart who r u?? 
              :)
              
              Arlene Lindsey 4:09 PM 03/19/13
              she said i started processing march 18th
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:09 PM 03/19/13
              What do we do if we have been processing "normally" for more than the 5 days?
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:09 PM 03/19/13
              Good question Tamara I was thinking the same thing
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:09 PM 03/19/13
              I am in the same boat at you Gabriel
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:09 PM 03/19/13
              what does 20130805 mean on a return transcript Bart? any luck for me soon?
              
              Natasha S 4:10 PM 03/19/13
              25er Bart is the tax god who came to save us all
              
              Natasha S 4:10 PM 03/19/13
              his knowledge is helping us all get some sort of peace of mind
              
              BartD  4:10 PM 03/19/13
              sauer after 5 days ur are not normally processing
              
              BartD  4:11 PM 03/19/13
              2013 year 08 week 05 day
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:11 PM 03/19/13
              is that a DD?
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:11 PM 03/19/13
              is it a good sign
              
              Arlene Lindsey 4:11 PM 03/19/13
              plz bart she told me reprocessing started the 18th
              
              BartD  4:12 PM 03/19/13
              no that's the date of cycle through stage 1
              
              BartD  4:12 PM 03/19/13
              means nothing
              
              BartD  4:12 PM 03/19/13
              to you guys
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:13 PM 03/19/13
              wha tif in review and recieved my return transcript ?  is that at all a good sign, I was told by a rep I was done processing at least.
              
              BartD  4:13 PM 03/19/13
              reilly it seems to be ur stuck if u still have no codes meaning ur bouncing in and out of the computer
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:13 PM 03/19/13
              calling now.. 15min+ waiting time..super..lol probably means an hour
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:13 PM 03/19/13
              what other codes should I look for? my account trans?
              
              BartD  4:13 PM 03/19/13
              processing is processing review is hell
              
              25er  4:14 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Arlene Lindsey 4:14 PM 03/19/13
              is that my answer bart 
              
              BartD  4:14 PM 03/19/13
              transcripts can be ordered after stage 1 processing 
              
              25er  4:14 PM 03/19/13
              code 806 code 570?
              
              BartD  4:15 PM 03/19/13
              review is annoying 
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:15 PM 03/19/13
              so if we can't order transcripts, we are not out of stage 1?
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:15 PM 03/19/13
              what exactly is stage 1? what does stage 2 cover
              
              25er  4:15 PM 03/19/13
              bestfriend filed 3/13 she can order transcripts yet
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:16 PM 03/19/13
              called the congressmans office and they said Ta hasnt responded.
              
              Gabriel Reilly 4:16 PM 03/19/13
              Thanks Bart!  I wonder why I haven't cleared?  Something I did and am being flagged for or just haven't been gotten too yet
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:16 PM 03/19/13
              I am wondering the same Gabriel. Since I have the same thing going on as you.
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:16 PM 03/19/13
              what exactly is stage 1? what does stage 2 cover
              
              BartD  4:17 PM 03/19/13
              error 806 is bad irs thinks ur taxes held arehigher than they should be
              
              BartD  4:17 PM 03/19/13
              ur going to be verifying ur w2
              
              SueL  4:18 PM 03/19/13
              if we can't order transcripts at all what does that mean?
              
              BartD  4:18 PM 03/19/13
              you  cant tell the system is flagged until the file is opened by a rep
              
              BartD  4:18 PM 03/19/13
              suel stage 1 normal processing isn't completed
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:19 PM 03/19/13
              Why would rep have told me I was receiving letter, 2 weeks ago, and still have not received letter
              
              Amber Love 4:19 PM 03/19/13
              when do they look at the 4464c peolpes
              
              Gabriel Reilly 4:19 PM 03/19/13
              Reps just tell me to call back April 1st  which is 21 Days after March 9th when my refund allegedly was being processed again.
              
              25er  4:19 PM 03/19/13
              then how come people get ddd less then 5 days????
              
              BartD  4:19 PM 03/19/13
              computer can flag it but its not flagged until and agent imputs code if its sits inque for 20 days ur still in normal processing according to irs reps
              
              SueL  4:19 PM 03/19/13
              so some of us are still there when we filed 2/14?
              
              SueL  4:19 PM 03/19/13
              even w the 8863 form that seems ridiculous
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:19 PM 03/19/13
              Agreed SueL
              
              Arlene Lindsey 4:20 PM 03/19/13
              bart do i wait five days if if im in processing on thje 18th
              
              Gabriel Reilly 4:20 PM 03/19/13
              Ahhh...I see...So the computer is keeping me in que and not allowing my return to go to a rep..
              
              Hannah Lee 4:20 PM 03/19/13
              SueL, i'm in the same spot
              
              mamaof4  4:20 PM 03/19/13
              would i have started processing sunday since my husband (primary) bars stayed the same and mine (secondary) changed with no bars? I know you only told me to go by primary last night.
              
              Amber Love 4:20 PM 03/19/13
              mr.BartD can you tell me more about the 4464c please
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:21 PM 03/19/13
              I thought the 4464 can mean any one of the different reasons stated? can review really be "hell" if it may be a simple EIC
              
              BartD  4:21 PM 03/19/13
              Suel 700 irs agents to correct 5 million errors returns and 600000 of them are due to 8863 and 359740 are to to id verify
              
              BartD  4:22 PM 03/19/13
              4464c is them wanting information to verify something
              
              25er  4:22 PM 03/19/13
              i feel they should have kept everything the same..they got all deez fraud filters in place screwing and delaying everyone causing more hell...smh 
              
              BartD  4:23 PM 03/19/13
              25er if u were a vict u wouldn't be saying thst
              
              SueL  4:23 PM 03/19/13
              even if there are errors why is it so slow?  without errors it's 10 days or under
              
              SueL  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              so very f'in sick of it...we need our $$ and we've all waited long enough
              
              BartD  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              suel yeah its about 10 days but fyi 3 out of 10 returns has an error
              
              BartD  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              2 out of ten seem to be id verity
              
              thisizridiculous  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              what if u have a 4464 but wmr still says processing (topic 152) and gives no error code. Been over 45 days since i got 4464
              
              BartD  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              1.5 out of ten are under review .02 out of ten are under full audit
              
              25er  4:24 PM 03/19/13
              i am....a victim of a hard working parent put through hell cause the irs is trying to make a difference...and im not the only one
              
              SueL  4:25 PM 03/19/13
              10 days from when they decide to admit they screwed up is still 3/19 which is today
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:25 PM 03/19/13
              Bart- why would they say I was getting a letter but still haven't? the USPS isn't as slow as the IRS these days!
              
              BartD  4:25 PM 03/19/13
              u have to give them the time 4464 are 102 workers and priorty is 8863
              
              Natasha S 4:25 PM 03/19/13
              Bart i never received a letter not sure if this is a good or bad thing 
              
              Natasha S 4:26 PM 03/19/13
              i only filed w2 and 8863
              
              BartD  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              suel than u are not in normal processing
              
              BartD  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              u were kick out
              
              SueL  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              What does that mean?
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:26 PM 03/19/13
              same here, I have not needed anything else from me they told me after 45days if they do not need nothing else my funds will be released?
              
              SueL  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              why would I get kicked out and who can help me?
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:26 PM 03/19/13
              Natasha, I am in the same boat.. did not receive a letter either, even tho they said I would
              
              BartD  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              natasha no lrt is the best thing
              
              SueL  4:26 PM 03/19/13
              I got a 12c letter last saturday
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:27 PM 03/19/13
              dont know why they would say I was getting a letter but never did
              
              Natasha S 4:27 PM 03/19/13
              Bart ok *breathes sigh of relief*
              
              BartD  4:27 PM 03/19/13
              getting kicked out means and error could be a simple check mark or a stupid 0 not added to a part that says add zero if
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:27 PM 03/19/13
              same here, I have not needed anything else from me they told me after 45days if they do not need nothing else my funds will be released?
              
              College  Girl 4:27 PM 03/19/13
              No letter here, just that they MIGHT send me one...seems like a giant stall tactic bc they effed up
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:27 PM 03/19/13
              So I just got off the phone with a lady from IRS she said I should see my refund 4 weeks from March 14th. So Bart is this my new processing date? She seemed very hesitant to tell me that date
              
              Natasha S 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              College girl did your topic appear again? and amount disappear?
              
              College  Girl 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              Yep, amount gone this morning and Topic 152 appeared
              
              BartD  4:28 PM 03/19/13
              henandez those who are waiting the 45 days if u don't get another letter and on the 46th day demand ur money 
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              college girl.. maybe thats what happened with me too, couldn't get all the info bc even tho rep thanked me for being so patient she hung up on me!
              
              Natasha S 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              same as me 
              
              College  Girl 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              Filed 2/5 w 8863
              
              Hannah Lee 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              yeah, i never received any letters or was warned about any. is that good?
              
              BartD  4:28 PM 03/19/13
              tey have to release return if there isn't another let
              
              Quintell Moore 4:28 PM 03/19/13
              filed 1/26
              
              BartD  4:28 PM 03/19/13
              lee no letters are the best
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              Collegegirl/natasha, we all have the same situation, my topic appeared and amount disappeared this morning too
              
              Natasha S 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              well Kelly according to Bart we should be seeing a DDD soon 
              
              Natasha S 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              within the next 5 days
              
              Amanda H 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              Same here was told 4 weeks from 3/13. The 8863error was corrected on 3/13, went back to process on 3/19, How long does it take in normal processing. 
              
              Dara Jackson  4:29 PM 03/19/13
              @ Kelly there are a bunch of us
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              fingers crossed.. on hold with IRS now
              
              Revillie Trenary 4:29 PM 03/19/13
              Our topic appeared and amount disappeared on Friday.... does that mean we should have a DDD tomorrow?
              
              Natasha S 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              Kelly PLEASE let us know what they say
              
              BartD  4:30 PM 03/19/13
              3/19 processing add 10 days or less
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              of course
              
              Quintell Moore 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              @Reville hope so same here
              
              Revillie Trenary 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              Quintell, let's keep our fingers crossed for each other~
              
              Natasha S 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              Bart you have been very helpful i am sure we are all driving you crazy with the questions
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              haha, yep. thanks Bart!
              
              Quintell Moore 4:30 PM 03/19/13
              sure will :) @Revillie
              
              BartD  4:30 PM 03/19/13
              no u guys want answers and i understand
              
              Hannah Lee 4:31 PM 03/19/13
              i'm just lost. I know i posted in here already, but with no letters, not a single change on any of the sites (hrb, irs, etc.) i don't know if i should call again, or wait. 
              
              Hannah Lee 4:31 PM 03/19/13
              you're a ton of help BartD, it is VERY appreciated
              
              BartD  4:31 PM 03/19/13
              and i am not doing anything but testing this supid new applke product that keeps freezing anyway
              
              Natasha S 4:31 PM 03/19/13
              lol Bart i love apple :) btw
              
              BartD  4:31 PM 03/19/13
              u wouldn't if you tested proypes
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 4:32 PM 03/19/13
              I am on hold waiting to talk to someone at the IRS right now. Hopefully it will be someone nice that will actually give me some answers
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:32 PM 03/19/13
              <3 apple.. but they better come up with something new soon! lol
              
              BartD  4:32 PM 03/19/13
              prototypes
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:32 PM 03/19/13
              So I just got off the phone with a lady from IRS she said I should see my refund 4 weeks from March 14th. So Bart is this my new processing date? She seemed very hesitant to tell me that date
              
              Natasha S 4:32 PM 03/19/13
              lol Bart im sure its frustrating 
              
              BartD  4:32 PM 03/19/13
              yes that is the new date good add 10 days
              
              BartD  4:33 PM 03/19/13
              iphone 5S is junk well right now
              
              Natasha S 4:33 PM 03/19/13
              i have the iphone 5 pretty pleased right now 
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:33 PM 03/19/13
              haha, well since my 4s still works, I guess I'll wait for the next one
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:33 PM 03/19/13
              So that should be sometime next week. I hope so cause I am tired of this mess. Bart thanks
              
              Quintell Moore 4:33 PM 03/19/13
              BartD thank you for everything!!!
              
              BartD  4:34 PM 03/19/13
              iphone 5 is better than the S in prototype form
              
              BartD  4:34 PM 03/19/13
              lol off topic
              
              BartD  4:34 PM 03/19/13
              you guys are welcome
              
              Natasha S 4:34 PM 03/19/13
              lol 
              
              Missy Smith 4:35 PM 03/19/13
              what if your check stub says they took out 5300 and your w2 say 3700
              
              Missy Smith 4:35 PM 03/19/13
              do you need a w2c
              
              BartD  4:35 PM 03/19/13
              smith now we found ur problem
              
              BartD  4:36 PM 03/19/13
              yes u MUST have a corrected w2c\
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:36 PM 03/19/13
              Yep, thanks a bunch Bart.  You're help is very much appreciated!!  I'm just hoping that I don't receive another letter and that whatever freeze they have on my account will be released on 3/25.  They haven't contacted my employer or anything so if that's the case, it's going to be another 45 days or something so that they can verify whatever they need to.  Do they always verify or sometimes just push things through because they are backed up?
              
              Missy Smith 4:36 PM 03/19/13
              thats not my problem it is my sister in laws problem
              
              Missy Smith 4:37 PM 03/19/13
              mine is they are laughing at my return
              
              Missy Smith 4:37 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              BartD  4:37 PM 03/19/13
              shirl ur close to that date if Friday u call either u will have a ddd after 5 or anbother letter
              
              mamaof4  4:37 PM 03/19/13
              would i have started processing sunday since my husband (primary) bars stayed the same and mine (secondary) changed with no bars? I know you only told me to go by primary last night.
              
              BartD  4:37 PM 03/19/13
              smith LOL
              
              Missy Smith 4:37 PM 03/19/13
              will you get audited with a w2c
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:38 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, I called the congressmans office back...now im back on hold with IRS
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:38 PM 03/19/13
              so I will demand answers this time
              
              BartD  4:39 PM 03/19/13
              no but if u report domething and w2 isn't corrected ur over reporting and work is getting away paying less takes and u get the blame
              
              BartD  4:39 PM 03/19/13
              taxes
              
              BartD  4:39 PM 03/19/13
              see i cant even type on this damn phone'
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:39 PM 03/19/13
              0174235 mr spanos- very rude to me yesterday
              
              BartD  4:40 PM 03/19/13
              ok i writing down
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:41 PM 03/19/13
              finally got through!! ok, waiting for him to bring up my info..asking when out of errors and new processing date.
              
              BartD  4:41 PM 03/19/13
              allessi good
              
              thisizridiculous  4:41 PM 03/19/13
              on account transcripts when it says <-refund amount> then 'as of' 3/18, does that mean anything? Does an account transcript have anything on it that could signal a DDD?
              
              2013taxpayer  4:42 PM 03/19/13
              what does it mean when acct transcript is blank?
              
              BartD  4:42 PM 03/19/13
              no account transcript as of 3/18 means reprocessing as of then
              
              2013taxpayer  4:42 PM 03/19/13
              filed 1/28 and acct transcript is blank both times ordered
              
              thisizridiculous  4:43 PM 03/19/13
              so how long to reprocess?
              
              BartD  4:43 PM 03/19/13
              2013 u need to not worry about account and worry about return
              
              BartD  4:43 PM 03/19/13
              return transcript is the one u want to order
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:43 PM 03/19/13
              so Bart, just tell them I want to know when I started reprocessing?
              
              2013taxpayer  4:43 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok....i can't order my return online or automated :(
              
              BartD  4:43 PM 03/19/13
              should be 10 days
              
              BartD  4:44 PM 03/19/13
              2013 not done stage 1 processing
              
              thisizridiculous  4:44 PM 03/19/13
              ok, so why do you say the return transcript is the one to order?
              
              Missy Smith 4:44 PM 03/19/13
              My account transcript say no return filed
              
              BartD  4:44 PM 03/19/13
              it will cause its not completed
              
              BartD  4:45 PM 03/19/13
              because if u can order a return transcript is a signed it passed first stage and on the second stage which is risk management checks if it passes that than u get a ddd
              
              thisizridiculous  4:45 PM 03/19/13
              and 2nd stage should take how long?
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:45 PM 03/19/13
              how long does stage 2 usually take?
              
              thisizridiculous  4:46 PM 03/19/13
              jinx@ jessica
              
              BartD  4:46 PM 03/19/13
              3 days for error check 2 days for risk check 1 day to generate ddd and post master file
              
              thisizridiculous  4:46 PM 03/19/13
              perfect, thank u
              
              BartD  4:46 PM 03/19/13
              than wmr can take 2-3 days to update
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:46 PM 03/19/13
              I've been out of stage one longer than that.. =/
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:47 PM 03/19/13
              BartD if they do not correct or process or send notice by the 25th what happens then
              
              BartD  4:47 PM 03/19/13
              herandez cause ur wereflagged
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:47 PM 03/19/13
              Ok, so here is the information I was given, out of errors, as of 3/11 - should receive refund by 4/8 at latest.  Received no letter because they stopped sending letters because they realized what the problem was.  So really.. he said just keep waiting..
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:47 PM 03/19/13
              no help. :(
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:47 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, do you think that I should call the IRS since I have that date of 3/25 and see if they are going to tell me that I'm receiving a letter or not.  I would think that by now they would already have figured out if they need more time or not.  Like I said, they have not sent anything vertification forms to my employer yet
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:48 PM 03/19/13
              But he was nice..and didn't hang up on me..so that was a nice change
              
              UncleSamStepSon  4:48 PM 03/19/13
              Hello BartD, Thanks for all your support. Being in review with a lettr dated 4/1. IRS rep stated that I have to s/Income Verification from my ScheduleC. What can I submit for verification of  MIsc Income? 
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:48 PM 03/19/13
              oh and the no letters thing was for the 8863 situation
              
              BartD  4:48 PM 03/19/13
              whirl yes i would call every day till 3/254
              
              College  Girl 4:48 PM 03/19/13
              @Kelly - did your amount disappear this morning and show tax topic?
              
              2013taxpayer  4:48 PM 03/19/13
              damn...so i've been in 1st stage since 1/28th? ugh just my luck...i f/a 1/28 and got 4464c 2/6 dated 2/4..bleh....this is great...just great
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:48 PM 03/19/13
              yes College Girl
              
              College  Girl 4:48 PM 03/19/13
              Okay, so I am prob in same boat as you!
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:49 PM 03/19/13
              think so
              
              BartD  4:49 PM 03/19/13
              2013 actually ur past stage 1 if you got 4464c u hit stage 2 flagged and no account freeze
              
              2013taxpayer  4:50 PM 03/19/13
              flagged?
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:50 PM 03/19/13
              How do you know when there is a freeze on your refund?  Is there a special code for that?
              
              Rhonda Reagan 4:50 PM 03/19/13
              25 minutes and still holding
              
              2013taxpayer  4:50 PM 03/19/13
              sorry, elaborate more on that pls?
              
              BartD  4:50 PM 03/19/13
              4464 is income verification and eic
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:51 PM 03/19/13
              so for sure if after 45 days April 8th for me) I can demand my refund?
              
              BartD  4:51 PM 03/19/13
              that's a risk check
              
              2013taxpayer  4:51 PM 03/19/13
              will they ask of me for verification of something? i hope so
              
              BartD  4:51 PM 03/19/13
              45 from date of letter
              
              Jessica Hernandez 4:51 PM 03/19/13
              I know for me I filed for my daughter first time
              
              Tamoya Diggs 4:51 PM 03/19/13
              BartD if they do not correct or process or send notice by the 25th what happens then
              
              BartD  4:52 PM 03/19/13
              diggs they have to if not the have to release return to processing
              
              Missy Smith 4:52 PM 03/19/13
              so all returns have to be released by the 25th
              
              Allen Klayman  4:53 PM 03/19/13
              if you get a 4883 and then get flagged will they still send you a notice or does the 4883 cover that too
              
              BartD  4:53 PM 03/19/13
              i am going to tell u a situation not to get people worried
              
              2013taxpayer  4:53 PM 03/19/13
              k
              
              BartD  4:54 PM 03/19/13
              4464c a lady received last year 2/16/2012 they kept delaying here return all they way up to 11/15/2012 when finally she got a real lawyer that had it released
              
              Revillie Trenary 4:54 PM 03/19/13
              You know what they could do to calm a lot of people's nerves is to give everyone a worst case scenario DDD, and update THAT date to a closer date as things get processed
              
              2013taxpayer  4:54 PM 03/19/13
              ahhhhhhhhh i am a 4464er....oh man
              
              College  Girl 4:54 PM 03/19/13
              omg that is crazy!
              
              2013taxpayer  4:55 PM 03/19/13
              i will never see my money *sigh*
              
              BartD  4:55 PM 03/19/13
              4464c is fist some and this lady spent 2000 on a lawyer to get a 2340 dollars tax return
              
              2013taxpayer  4:56 PM 03/19/13
              what the hell?
              
              Terri Isenberg 4:56 PM 03/19/13
              thats insane
              
              2013taxpayer  4:56 PM 03/19/13
              not even worth it!!
              
              8863erinhell  4:56 PM 03/19/13
              WOW she is nuts
              
              BartD  4:56 PM 03/19/13
              o but at that point if was just to prove a point to he
              
              BartD  4:57 PM 03/19/13
              the point was she wanted to make a point 
              
              Terri Isenberg 4:57 PM 03/19/13
              Im so tired of not seeing any change it just makes for a bad day.
              
              BartD  4:57 PM 03/19/13
              funny thing is she made a big deal and got audited this year because they still didn't believe her
              
              Terri Isenberg 4:58 PM 03/19/13
              oh my
              
              taxmama  4:58 PM 03/19/13
              What does your processing date mean on a transcript I'm just joining
              
              BartD  4:58 PM 03/19/13
              she emailed me for my help i have to go to Philadelphia irs office next week with her'
              
              2013taxpayer  4:58 PM 03/19/13
              i wish my return was in review instead of flagged now lol
              
              Sonya Whirl 4:59 PM 03/19/13
              Wow, that is crazy.  So now if they need to verify my income, shouldn't they be contacting my employer? (which they have not)  Is there another way for them to verify what they need to know other than requesting information from me?
              
              Kelly Allessi 4:59 PM 03/19/13
              wish I could order a transcript..thats the thing that worries me the most about getting my refund anytime soon..why can't I order a transcript..anyone know of anyone getting their DDD or DD without a transcript?
              
              8863erinhell  4:59 PM 03/19/13
              Bart your amazing!!! I think if we saw you without a shirt we would see wings on your back!!!
              
              thisizridiculous  4:59 PM 03/19/13
              @kelly, yes! Tons of people
              
              Kelly Allessi 5:00 PM 03/19/13
              good to know, thanks @thisiz
              
              2013taxpayer  5:00 PM 03/19/13
              i've seen ppl get their refund and can't order their transcript
              
              BartD  5:00 PM 03/19/13
              whirl if they cant verify from employer they will ask from u the w2 1099 and anthing else
              
              ihateitall  5:00 PM 03/19/13
              being able to order transcripts if you have a 4464c LTR means nothing is this right bart?
              
              BartD  5:00 PM 03/19/13
              2013 that's is correct most people that hit review for something will not be able to order transcript right away because its a manual post
              
              BartD  5:01 PM 03/19/13
              ihate yes means nothing for people with 4464
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:01 PM 03/19/13
              Okay, I'm just wondering when they will be notifying my employer - they haven't yet because I asked our payroll person to let me know when she rec'd something so I could time the turnaround.
              
              ihateitall  5:01 PM 03/19/13
              what happens if you can order them does that mean they are done with review
              
              BartD  5:01 PM 03/19/13
              ok hold on guys  got the call i was waiting for for the 4483c guys
              
              taxmama  5:02 PM 03/19/13
              Just join in did he say what the processing date meant on the account transcript
              
              thisizridiculous  5:02 PM 03/19/13
              taxmama....means nothing to us common folks
              
              taxmama  5:03 PM 03/19/13
              huh
              
              thisizridiculous  5:03 PM 03/19/13
              i think
              
              thisizridiculous  5:04 PM 03/19/13
              crap, too much going on in this chat. i dont remember what he said about the processing date but he did say return trans has the better info
              
              taxmama  5:05 PM 03/19/13
              what should u look for on the return transcript
              
              2013taxpayer  5:05 PM 03/19/13
              what i wanna know is how come some ppl got the 4464 letter and their refund?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:05 PM 03/19/13
              i saw many got the letter the same day as their refund
              
              thisizridiculous  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              he said re the return trans:  because if u can order a return transcript is a signed it passed first stage and on the second stage which is risk management checks if it passes that than u get a ddd
              
              BartD  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              ok i am back
              
              UncleSamStepSon  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              Do they do a detailed verification check for 1099 income
              
              BartD  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              the news isn't goog
              
              2013taxpayer  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              and some got it a day after their refund or a day before
              
              thisizridiculous  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              2013 ask him that now
              
              thisizridiculous  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              good question
              
              taxmama  5:06 PM 03/19/13
              How long do u stay in stage 2
              
              Missy Smith 5:06 PM 03/19/13
              not what we wanted to hear bart
              
              2013taxpayer  5:07 PM 03/19/13
              kk lemme copy/paste lol
              
              thisizridiculous  5:07 PM 03/19/13
               3 days for error check 2 days for risk check 1 day to generate ddd and post master file
              
              2013taxpayer  5:07 PM 03/19/13
              what i wanna know is how come some ppl got the 4464 letter and their refund?
              i saw many got the letter the same day as their refund
              
              2013taxpayer  5:07 PM 03/19/13
              and some got it a day after their refund or a day before
              
              thisizridiculous  5:07 PM 03/19/13
               3 days for error check 2 days for risk check 1 day to generate ddd and post master file
              
              @taxmama
              
              taxmama  5:07 PM 03/19/13
              from what day @thisiz
              
              thisizridiculous  5:08 PM 03/19/13
              i would say, give 10-12 days...i *think* from the processing date. This sporatic info is very confusing to me
              
              2013taxpayer  5:08 PM 03/19/13
              bart just said something about not good news
              
              taxmama  5:08 PM 03/19/13
              o ok I'm confused 2 
              
              thisizridiculous  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              @2013, where did u see 4464s getting DDD same time as the letters?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              this was early feb
              
              2013taxpayer  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              you know, michele? the admin here...she was one of them
              
              thisizridiculous  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              really, interesting
              
              BartD  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              4483c i am sorry guys but i was right the system keeps kicking the returns out for the same thing for id check and they have to be all manually bypassed through state 1 inputted to risk check and if low risk will get a ddd due to manually inputting returns will be delayed up to 4 weeks aand the order of returns is when they get to them after last rejection so some might get them sooner and filed later than othere that kept getting rejected till some one actually realized what was going on! worst part is im pissed cause i wasn't aware of this or a fix could have been made!!!
              
              taxmama  5:09 PM 03/19/13
              I seen people get dates 2 on this site
              
              thisizridiculous  5:10 PM 03/19/13
              oh yah ive seen plenty of 4464 ppl get dates recently
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:10 PM 03/19/13
              I just talked to a super d!@#
              
              Rhonda Reagan 5:10 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, this rep keeps telling me everyone started reprocessing 3/9 and thats when mine did
              
              BartD  5:11 PM 03/19/13
              4464 c people will get dates
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:11 PM 03/19/13
              @2013 - REALLY????  You know of some people that rec'd the 4464c letter and still rec'd their refund without a huge delay?  That would be awesome cuz I filed 2/18 and rec'd the letter 2/26 and have been in a holding patter since.  I ordered my transcript and it gave me a code 570 additional pending action for 3/25. I'm wondering if they are going to send me another letter or release this freeze on that date
              
              thisizridiculous  5:11 PM 03/19/13
              @Bart 
              what i wanna know is how come some ppl got the 4464 letter and their refund?
              i saw many got the letter the same day as their refund
              
              and some got it a day after their refund or a day before
              
              2013taxpayer  5:11 PM 03/19/13
              yeah, sonya but that was in early feb
              
              2013taxpayer  5:11 PM 03/19/13
              i've seen get their ddd though recently
              
              2013taxpayer  5:12 PM 03/19/13
              i know 2 of them that got a TA and got DDD
              
              2013taxpayer  5:12 PM 03/19/13
              and about 5 or 6 without a TA
              
              BartD  5:12 PM 03/19/13
              yes some will 4464c is generic so if it a simple w2 and the company already reported there w2 its fixed a lot quicker
              
              thisizridiculous  5:13 PM 03/19/13
              but still if its been past 45 days, demand a refund
              
              thisizridiculous  5:13 PM 03/19/13
              ?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:14 PM 03/19/13
              how do we demand a refund after 45 days?
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:14 PM 03/19/13
              ok so I talked to one person last week that said my 8863 claim was released from errors and today I get that I opened a case with errors resolution a few days before so it is still in errors until they get back to me within 30 days. since the initial errors resolution request I received and responded to CP05 and it verified reception by IRS
              
              Mike  5:14 PM 03/19/13
              accepted 2/14 HRB 8863 no letters, bars dissapeared early March, This morning WMR lost the $ amount and topic 152 came up. Any idea where I stand??
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:14 PM 03/19/13
              not cpo5 12c
              
              Kelly Allessi 5:15 PM 03/19/13
              Mike, a lot of us are in that same exact situation..same dates..lost amount and gains topic this morning too
              
              Calvin Mesh 5:15 PM 03/19/13
              So, when will they correct the problem for the 4883c? and what sort of duration are we looking at.? 
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:15 PM 03/19/13
              I'm on hold with IRS now but my WMR still has my amount and topic 152.  Lost my bars several weeks ago but the 152 topic never went away
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:15 PM 03/19/13
              what if we have topic 152 and amount is still there?
              
              BartD  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              12c is another generic ltr means nothing until u get another
              
              25er  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              hey bart what is a person is ghosting for weeks..what does that mean??? (wmr info disappeared..no info)
              
              25er  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              if*
              
              2013taxpayer  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              this is my 50th day from filing and 43 days from 4464c letter (dated). do i get to demand my refund in 2 days?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              bart said ghosting means pulled out for review
              
              BartD  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              hernadez it means ur being looked at or prob already fixe
              
              2013taxpayer  5:16 PM 03/19/13
              out of the computer system completely
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:16 PM 03/19/13
              IRS told me 45 days from letter but has to be BUSINESS DAYS
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:16 PM 03/19/13
              the 12 c requested that we respond with lines 25 and 26 on 8863 
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:16 PM 03/19/13
              do not count sat/sun and holidays
              
              ihateitall  5:17 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I filed on 2-14-13 with HOH EIC 3 DEP and w-2 from New York times and SS disablity got 4464c LTR dated 2-22-13 It should be easy to verify my income  but cycle date is 20131005 processing 3-25-13
              
              BartD  5:17 PM 03/19/13
              COMPUTERS WORK 24/7
              
              2013taxpayer  5:17 PM 03/19/13
              i've always days not business days
              
              2013taxpayer  5:17 PM 03/19/13
              heard*
              
              Kelly Allessi 5:18 PM 03/19/13
              yea, everything I've seen is calendar days not business days
              
              thisizridiculous  5:18 PM 03/19/13
              @jessica, that rep probably lied to u to stall
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:18 PM 03/19/13
              just letting the ones that may not know that, be aware.. :)
              
              BartD  5:18 PM 03/19/13
              3/25 IS THE DATE IT SHOULD BE PROCESSING
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:18 PM 03/19/13
              no it's trust
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:18 PM 03/19/13
              true*
              
              25er  5:19 PM 03/19/13
              hey bart what if a person is ghosting for weeks..what does that mean??? (wmr info disappeared..no info
              
              Nina Sumayang-Tongco 5:19 PM 03/19/13
              Hi Bart! I am an 8863 filer. and this morning WMR no longer has my refund amount and topic 152 re-appeared. what do you think?
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:19 PM 03/19/13
              what if I have topic 152
              
              2013taxpayer  5:20 PM 03/19/13
              lastnight bart said ghosting=pulled out out of computer system completely and needs to by touched by human lol
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:20 PM 03/19/13
              and amount is still there
              
              UncleSamStepSon  5:20 PM 03/19/13
              When we are in review, is it a good idea to get TA
              
              2013taxpayer  5:20 PM 03/19/13
              he also said lastnight no bar, no topic=freeze
              
              2013taxpayer  5:20 PM 03/19/13
              no bars w/topic=processing or errors
              
              thisizridiculous  5:20 PM 03/19/13
              Uncle Sam, i think the general concensus is the TA DOES NOT HELP
              
              25er  5:21 PM 03/19/13
              ok@2013
              
              BartD  5:21 PM 03/19/13
              2013 correct
              
              2013taxpayer  5:21 PM 03/19/13
              i was lurking lastnight lol
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:22 PM 03/19/13
              @ihateitall - I have the same cycle date and same 3/25 date on my transcript.  I am on hold with IRS now to find out if I'm going to get another letter or will I get a dd then
              
              mamaof4  5:22 PM 03/19/13
              would i have started processing sunday since my husband (primary) bars stayed the same and mine (secondary) changed with no bars? I know you only told me to go by primary last night.
              
              thisizridiculous  5:22 PM 03/19/13
              sonya, let us know. A lot of us have the same dates
              
              2013taxpayer  5:23 PM 03/19/13
              so lucky for you who can get transcripts...i can't even get mine yet...been trying every day :/
              
              BartD  5:23 PM 03/19/13
              u could have started processing sunday yes
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:23 PM 03/19/13
              If you have a referral for errors resolution dept. to call you do you stay in errors even after the error has been corrected if they have not called you?
              
              George Demko 5:23 PM 03/19/13
              HELLO
              
              mamaof4  5:23 PM 03/19/13
              ok thanks
              
              thisizridiculous  5:23 PM 03/19/13
              what if you receive a cp05 after a 4464?
              
              George Demko 5:24 PM 03/19/13
              I was wondering if you heard of any errors with the home buyer repayment credit.I was told this is why i was in and out of erros on2/11
              
              25er  5:24 PM 03/19/13
              so if your processing more then a week somthing is wrong????????????????
              
              BartD  5:24 PM 03/19/13
              means there delaying ur return even more that's all for the same thing
              
              taxmama  5:24 PM 03/19/13
              When you research cp05 an 4464c they are the same EXACT LETTER I'm so confused
              
              8863erinhell  5:24 PM 03/19/13
              so this generic statement Your tax return is still being processed.
              
              A refund date will be provided when availableon w,r with amount .  what exactly does it mean?  
              
              BartD  5:24 PM 03/19/13
              25er yes but can be simple to fix
              
              2013taxpayer  5:25 PM 03/19/13
              [email protected] delayed days are diff
              
              BartD  5:25 PM 03/19/13
              every error found is done 1 ONE at a time
              
              BartD  5:25 PM 03/19/13
              not all at once
              
              2013taxpayer  5:25 PM 03/19/13
              i read somewhere that 4464 is bad news rather than getting a cp05
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:25 PM 03/19/13
              If you have a referral for errors resolution dept. to call you do you stay in errors even after the error has been corrected if they have not called you? Please help....I am on hold with them right now.
              
              thisizridiculous  5:25 PM 03/19/13
              so getting both letters may mean they found more than 1 error?
              
              25er  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              so i said my bestfriend filed last week 3/13 she still has 1 bar..should she start calling??
              
              taxmama  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              @2013 they say the same just different amount of days
              
              2013taxpayer  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              yeah
              
              George Demko 5:26 PM 03/19/13
              so i was told i came out of errors on 2/11, to wait 4-6 weeks, which would make my last day 3/25. When i talked to the IRS rep on 3/15 she said i should have something by 3/25. she told me not to call back
              
              BartD  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              sauer they will never call u
              
              Calvin Mesh 5:26 PM 03/19/13
              Bart-So, when will they correct the problem for the 4883c? and what sort of duration are we looking at.?  Is it an easy fix?
              
              BartD  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              that's a joke they don't even have a phone
              
              2013taxpayer  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              lol@don't even have a ph
              
              2013taxpayer  5:26 PM 03/19/13
              hahahahaha
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:26 PM 03/19/13
              So I would have been released when the error was fixed?
              
              BartD  5:27 PM 03/19/13
              mesh they are correcting it by manual input
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:27 PM 03/19/13
              The rep I talked to last week said I was out of errors and back into processing 3/9 but the jerk today said I was still in errors 
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:27 PM 03/19/13
              I don't get it and now I am even more confused
              
              Calvin Mesh 5:27 PM 03/19/13
              So, that can be sometime next year with the amount of people affected.
              
              2013taxpayer  5:28 PM 03/19/13
              i've seen about 3 4464ers who called in and reps told them that 4464 was reprocessed 3/11....is that true, bart? do you know?
              
              BartD  5:28 PM 03/19/13
              when they get to ur return it will done i had to sound like an irs agent but that's is the best answer this is no ryme or reason it just is and 4883c shouldn't even bother calling anymore cause there going to get no information till ur passed through
              
              25er  5:28 PM 03/19/13
              is the amount missing n topic 152 showing only for the early ed credit filers??? or would my amount be missing soon too?? 2/25 regular w2
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:28 PM 03/19/13
              Hi, bartd. I used to be a te/contact rep so i know what the screens are but I don't know what's wrong. Only change I had from last year is that I added my niece as a dependent with the 8863 and I have a new address. Filed 1/30. Accepted 1/30. no change no letter.
              
              BartD  5:28 PM 03/19/13
              25 if its not missing its a better sign
              
              8863erinhell  5:29 PM 03/19/13
              rep said out of errors on the 14th, no letters received, no change on wmr. gereic still processing date when available,  date on hrb changed to 3/18.    so with no tax topic n amount showing that means im frozen????
              
              2013taxpayer  5:29 PM 03/19/13
              he said last night no bars, no topic=freeze
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:29 PM 03/19/13
              anyone with a 4-6 week processing time AFTER errors getting ddd's faster than that?
              
              BartD  5:29 PM 03/19/13
              8863 no just relax ur closer than a lot of people
              
              2013taxpayer  5:29 PM 03/19/13
              don't know bout the not bar no amount
              
              BartD  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              2013 what do u mean
              
              Tamara Fuller-Sauer 5:30 PM 03/19/13
              I was told I was out of errors and back into processing 3/9. Now I am told I am still in errors because I had a referral for them to call me. So confused. I don't know which is true.
              
              8863erinhell  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              ty Bart, lol im still freaking a bit, butwith your help lastnight, I actually slept better!
              
              2013taxpayer  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              no, i was just telling 8863 i don't know about the no bars and no amount
              
              ihateitall  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              @sonya let me know what they say when you get off
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:30 PM 03/19/13
              also Bart, they said on 3/7 I was out of errors after 26 days
              
              2013taxpayer  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              and you answered 
              
              BartD  5:30 PM 03/19/13
              sauer lol no u hit errors again for something else
              
              2013taxpayer  5:31 PM 03/19/13
              is true you can demand your refund after 45 days? i will hit 50 days since filing and 43 days from dated 4464c letter.
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:31 PM 03/19/13
              i was in errors for 8863, out on 2/22...back in errors for homebuyer credit, then out on 3/4.
              
              2013taxpayer  5:32 PM 03/19/13
              if so, how do u demand your refund? call in? write a letter?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:32 PM 03/19/13
              now 6-8 weeks???
              
              mickey m  5:33 PM 03/19/13
              took your advice called again she told when I verified she said I am in normal processing and it should be 4-6 weeks from march 4 I verified march 11 does that sound right.
              
              BartD  5:33 PM 03/19/13
              2013 u cant demand ur refund but on the 45 day u can send a referral to request processing due tors inability to find error in ur return and must resubmit for processing due to time frame laps
              
              BartD  5:34 PM 03/19/13
              mickey m yeah i explained earlier that verified peo are all manually entered
              
              2013taxpayer  5:34 PM 03/19/13
              referral? like a TA?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:35 PM 03/19/13
              verified people?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:35 PM 03/19/13
              reviewed?
              
              BartD  5:35 PM 03/19/13
              no referral to the review epartment
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:35 PM 03/19/13
              So it's not a bad thing if you were told you were out of errors but no bars no tax topic and amount still there? The rep did say it could take up to 7 days for WMR to update how true is that
              
              2013taxpayer  5:35 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok...thank you!
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:36 PM 03/19/13
              Christine, I am in that same situation and it's almost 2 weeks
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:36 PM 03/19/13
              well i have been our of errors since 3/4  3/6 bars amount and tax topic came back...still nothing!
              
              BartD  5:36 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett wmr usally is only 1-3 days depending on ster file posing
              
              jennyleesmiles  5:36 PM 03/19/13
              @bartd?. any word on if it means anything when h&r site update the acceptance date from feb to march 18th??. they say that they do not know why it happened
              
              2013taxpayer  5:36 PM 03/19/13
              i thought no bars, no topic means your return is on freeze
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:36 PM 03/19/13
              Okay so I shouldn't be too worried then? 
              
              taxmama  5:36 PM 03/19/13
              i thought so 2 @2013
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              seemed that way for me.  when mine all came nack is when i found out i was out of errors 2 days earlier
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:37 PM 03/19/13
              Thats where I'm confused
              
              BartD  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              miles lol that's HRB for you that update is when everyone that got the update strted processing again or has been processed
              
              2013taxpayer  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              from my understanding lastnight that's what no bar and no topic meant lol
              
              BartD  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett no topic is bad
              
              ihateitall  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              @bart what does it mean when no bars but tax topic 152 and amount are still there
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              its all bad
              
              2013taxpayer  5:37 PM 03/19/13
              no topic.....TA time! lol
              
              katrina grover  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              my info disappeared today has been processing since feb 15th has that happened to anyone else ?
              
              BartD  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              ihate means simple error being fixed or in normal processing after error is corrected
              
              mickey m  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              any truth to massive system update tonight
              
              BartD  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              no topic is major error small or large freeze
              
              katrina grover  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              wmr is not recognizing my info
              
              jennyleesmiles  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              okay cause i have seen nothing other than still processing... amount still there, no trans available...
              
              2013taxpayer  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              ghosting=you have been pulled out of computer system and human needs to review it
              
              BartD  5:38 PM 03/19/13
              mickey massive updates there are no such thing
              
              BartD  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              updates every nite regardless
              
              8863erinhell  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              me too jenny
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:39 PM 03/19/13
              mine has been stuck on still processing since 2/16 but no letter and when I called, they said I was out of errors. Have not been able to order my transcript
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:39 PM 03/19/13
              That's where I'm at too shevon
              
              taxmama  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              I have a bad vibe bout this chat
              
              2013taxpayer  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              i can't order my return transcript either..i can order my acct but that is completely blank :/
              
              8863erinhell  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              ditto Shevon
              
              lware10  5:39 PM 03/19/13
              @Shevon....same here.
              
              BartD  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              Thomas out of errors cant order ur in stage one processing
              
              2013taxpayer  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              lol@taxmama
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              stage one?
              
              lware10  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              @taxmama.....what's ur vibe?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              that means we are just in a pile somewhere?
              
              ihateitall  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              @sonya when you get off with IRS let me know what they say
              
              UncleSamStepSon  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              BartD, is there anyway for the tax payers to cross reference the policy and procedures of the IRS and the tax refund procedures?
              
              mamaof4  5:40 PM 03/19/13
              i havent tried to order transcripts since yesterday morning...scared
              
              mickey m  5:41 PM 03/19/13
              what does it mean if your case is open
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:41 PM 03/19/13
              Okay, just got off the phone with Ms. Gary at IRS who told me that they were still working on my return but that she didn't see that they were going to send out another letter by 3/25.  Not great news but I'm just glad that they are not sending another letter requesting another 45 day extension.
              
              taxmama  5:41 PM 03/19/13
              something AINT right 
              
              ihateitall  5:41 PM 03/19/13
              @soaya congrats
              
              BartD  5:41 PM 03/19/13
              whirl that sounds like file will be closed soon
              
              Sonya Whirl 5:42 PM 03/19/13
              Also, she said that the 3/25 date really didn't mean anything (although I doubt that) but what I plan on doing is ordering my transcript again on like 3/26 or 3/27 so I can see if on 3/25 they actually did anything on my account\
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:42 PM 03/19/13
              i never got ANY LETTERS...no explanation why I have been waiting 2 months..'
              
              2013taxpayer  5:42 PM 03/19/13
              so as long as you don't get another letter is that good?
              
              BartD  5:42 PM 03/19/13
              8863 is why ur waiting u don't need ltr to know that
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:43 PM 03/19/13
              no 8862 cleared errors on 2/22
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:43 PM 03/19/13
              8863*
              
              katrina grover  5:43 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD My info just disappeared on wmr meaning it is not recognizing my info it has said processing since feb 15th what does mean if anything?
              
              taxmama  5:43 PM 03/19/13
              He say after 45 days a 4464 can demand there money but how when the letter states 60 days
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:43 PM 03/19/13
              So should I call again today to confirm I was out of error even though the rep said she was noting my account that I called yesterday? I was really excited to find out I was out of errors but it doesn't seem like I'm anywhere near getting my money because I don't have the tax topic or bars
              
              BartD  5:44 PM 03/19/13
              grover u checked to many time
              
              katrina grover  5:44 PM 03/19/13
              i only check 1 time a day
              
              katrina grover  5:44 PM 03/19/13
              if that 
              
              BartD  5:44 PM 03/19/13
              mama some say 45 sme say 60 sorry i didn't clairfy
              
              2013taxpayer  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              from what i've learned here i'm never seeing my refund lol. i hate it because i haven't been sent a another letter...hopefully that's a good thing.
              
              BartD  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              i assumed everyone got the 45 day notice
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              no
              
              BartD  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              if u have the 60 day than they have 60
              
              taxmama  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              I never received no notice
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              me neither
              
              ihateitall  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              this year all 4464c LTR are 60 days
              
              lware10  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD....what 45 day notice?  I have not received anything.
              
              BartD  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              8863 u hit errors
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:45 PM 03/19/13
              Neither did i
              
              BartD  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              that's new 
              
              UncleSamStepSon  5:45 PM 03/19/13
              Wow,, God bless your Bart, you have ignored all my questionss,I have did anything to you 
              
              BartD  5:46 PM 03/19/13
              something i didn't know
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:46 PM 03/19/13
              I believe the rep was correct in telling me that I was out of errors aqnd that I was in it for 26 days after I told her I knew she had access to see where my return was located and that she was reading the script. I just don't know when it got out.
              
              BartD  5:46 PM 03/19/13
              they use to be 45 
              
              ihateitall  5:46 PM 03/19/13
              yea last year they were 45 just this year they changed to 60
              
              2013taxpayer  5:46 PM 03/19/13
              i got 4464c 9 days after i filed...it's weird because the letter was 2/4 and i received it 2/6. could it really get to me that fast?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:46 PM 03/19/13
              so if you were in errors, your return is being done manually?  that is why the 6-8 week timeframe?  Or is it because the government sucks and just wants to keep our money just to make us squirm?
              
              BartD  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              2013 hell yes they can get u after 3 days of processing
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:47 PM 03/19/13
              Shevon I believe my rep because unlike other reps I talked to it wasn't a 2 min phone conversation 
              
              taxmama  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              2013taxpayer same dates as me do u have a transcript
              
              2013taxpayer  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok
              
              2013taxpayer  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              @taxmama nope
              
              2013taxpayer  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              i can't order return
              
              2013taxpayer  5:47 PM 03/19/13
              i can order acct but blank
              
              2013taxpayer  5:48 PM 03/19/13
              have ordered twice diff times apart and still blank
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:48 PM 03/19/13
              And my rep told me I should see my refund in 2 to 3 weeks
              
              BartD  5:48 PM 03/19/13
              no 6-8 weeks is to look at it crrect it requesting formation resubmit it and than go bk to processing and get a ddd
              
              2013taxpayer  5:48 PM 03/19/13
              however my wmr has no bars or topic....so looks like i'm on a freeze on who knows what because i have no forms...just a plain 1040ez
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:49 PM 03/19/13
              @christine, I asked her should I check back in 2 weeks and she said yes but still nothing.
              
              taxmama  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              I ordered mind twice both have my information what does that mean Bart ordered since feb.28
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              they told me i should had mine within 2 weeks of my 6-8 week processing time.  It's been 2 weeks and still no transcripts or ddd
              
              BartD  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              2013 w2?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              yes, w2
              
              BartD  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              that's ur freeze
              
              kyle  wurtz 5:49 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, I just spoke with a rep names Brian, his number is 1831238, He told me it's 4-6 weeks from the 6th of march, when I verified. Apparently i dont have any errors. Whatever the hell that means..How do we know if it might of been kicked from the system? 
              
              2013taxpayer  5:49 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:49 PM 03/19/13
              Shevon have you tried calling again?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:50 PM 03/19/13
              can i just fax my w2 in? like out of nowhere? lol
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:50 PM 03/19/13
              so, even though we have been in and out of errors for various reasons, there is no guarantee that they will not find more errors, or that we are actually getting our refund?
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:50 PM 03/19/13
              I was gonna call on Thursday morning, exactly 2 weeks from my first call
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:50 PM 03/19/13
              Oh okay...I am debating about calling again toda 
              
              wnosma  5:50 PM 03/19/13
              ok, someone help me out! 
              
              BartD  5:50 PM 03/19/13
              2013 lolol
              
              thisizridiculous  5:50 PM 03/19/13
              @2013, I dont understand. Your w-2 is your error?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              that's what he said...w2 is my freeze
              
              thisizridiculous  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              wtf does that mean??
              
              2013taxpayer  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              i did the import thingy on tt
              
              2013taxpayer  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              i don't know lol
              
              thisizridiculous  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              lol great. thanks for clearing that up.
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:51 PM 03/19/13
              @Christine, I may call in the morning around 7
              
              2013taxpayer  5:51 PM 03/19/13
              hahahaha
              
              taxmama  5:52 PM 03/19/13
              Brat I received both transcript twice with all my information on them one in feb. an I went got another Tuesday what does that mean
              
              Christine Whitsett 5:52 PM 03/19/13
              Can you call and ask if you are frozen?
              
              BartD  5:52 PM 03/19/13
              yeah was picked up for something w2 are checked mathematically for risk example u have a percentage of tax taken out for the amount u made if this percentage is 2% lower or higher than its stops the return for check
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:52 PM 03/19/13
              I thought about calling and using IRS lingo to see if I could get a better  response.
              
              wnosma  5:52 PM 03/19/13
              I filed MFJ, 2 dep, with EIC and 8863. I was told over and over if I hadn't gotten a letter I wasn't getting one. I was assigned a TA on Thursday, then received the letter Friday. I called Friday, and my TA never picked up or called back,. I have left 3 voicemails for her to return my call and she has not. WTF DO I DO WITH THIS?! 
              
              wnosma  5:53 PM 03/19/13
              IT'S the letter about boxes 25 and 26
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:53 PM 03/19/13
              One of my friends is TA and she has been working OT some days until 9pm
              
              BartD  5:53 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett no they wont tell u unless u have gotten a letter
              
              Terri Isenberg 5:53 PM 03/19/13
              Bart, I just spoke with a rep names Brian, his number is 1831238, He told me it's 4-6 weeks from the 6th of march, when I verified. Apparently i dont have any errors. Whatever the hell that means..How do we know if it might of been kicked from the system?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:53 PM 03/19/13
              there ya go thisizridiculous...did u see what he wrote?
              
              Terri Isenberg 5:53 PM 03/19/13
              that is what k wurtz said
              
              thisizridiculous  5:54 PM 03/19/13
              yes i get it. maybe...=P
              
              BartD  5:54 PM 03/19/13
              wmnsoma there is nothing u can do fire ur TA andt autheration to access ur account back
              
              wnosma  5:54 PM 03/19/13
              I finally switched over to Topic 152...
              
              BartD  5:54 PM 03/19/13
              and get autheration
              
              BartD  5:55 PM 03/19/13
              that's goof sign wnsoma
              
              Charelle Tiffany 5:55 PM 03/19/13
              Is there some reason why I haven't been able to access my refund status on WMR??????Yesterday it wouldn't let me & last night into this morning it showed still processing when I checked it one time only woke up & couldn't get the status again!!!!!!
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:55 PM 03/19/13
              i have had topic 152 for  5 weeks
              
              wnosma  5:55 PM 03/19/13
              UGH.
              
              2013taxpayer  5:55 PM 03/19/13
              sorry to bother you bart...just one last question....when you told me to do a referral after 45 days to the review dept how do i do that? when i call in tell the rep to transfer me to that dept or tell the rep to refer my acct to review dept? sorry, if it's a dumb question.
              
              Katharine Bird 5:55 PM 03/19/13
              i got a DDD and now it has disappeared..I callled the IRS and they said it will be another 4-6 weeks..talked to TA and she said not to call her back
              
              wnosma  5:55 PM 03/19/13
              my 21 days was 3/7.
              
              wnosma  5:56 PM 03/19/13
              but i don't know if since i have the TA if i'm supposed to send this letter back
              
              Missy Smith 5:56 PM 03/19/13
              Bart could my w2 be my problem too. i have and extra 50 taken out every week for federal so i dont ave to pay in
              
              Shevon Thomas 5:56 PM 03/19/13
              @Katharine, they can stop a refund. I used to do it all the time when I worked there.
              
              taxmama  5:56 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I ordered both transcripts in feb. an went got an copy from the local irs office with all my information is that a good thing
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:56 PM 03/19/13
              how is everyone getting TA's.  I thought you have to have an eviction letter or forclosure to get one?
              
              BartD  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              2013 i made a mistake and i am sorry its 60 days not 45 they changed it this year i don't know why
              
              wnosma  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              i have an electric shutoff notice.
              
              2013taxpayer  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              oh ok
              
              BartD  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              prolly from all the fuck upd
              
              kyle  wurtz 5:57 PM 03/19/13
              i'm down if anyone wans to protest
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              well geesh I have more than that and never got a call back, lol'
              
              taxmama  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              bart can you answer my ?
              
              2013taxpayer  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              do i call in to rep and have them refer my return to review dept? or do i contact review dept for referral?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:57 PM 03/19/13
              i am 1/2 hr from D.C.
              
              Tamoya Diggs 5:58 PM 03/19/13
              Bart thank you for answering my questions today. After reading everyone comments and statement I wish everyone well. This year has been the worse tax season I ever expeirence. Some days I feel like we will never get our money. It sad that the IRS can lie and tell us want they want to tell us regarding our money. To make even more sad this is a part of our government.I believe everyone work hard for what for what th
              
              Gabriel Reilly 5:58 PM 03/19/13
              So let me see if I have this right based on what everyone is saying...No tax topic, return is still processing w/amount on side=errors department if IRS rep said processing from a particular date (i.e. 3/9) and you haven't heard anything in 10 days and they tell you to wait the full 21 days then you could be okay, just that   no one has looked at it; Tax topic 152=someone has looked at refund and should receive dd in 5 days;  No letters =good; letters=bad. 
              
              Quintell Moore 5:58 PM 03/19/13
              @BartD should I try to order a transcript if my amount has disappeared
              
              Tamoya Diggs 5:58 PM 03/19/13
              they have and the refund is our money we worked for. I wish you well everyone. God Bless. Bartd thanks again
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:58 PM 03/19/13
              Um, no Gabriel...lol
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:59 PM 03/19/13
              wish that was all tru, but no in my case
              
              Gabriel Reilly 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              Thanks Bart...just trying to summarize the copious information out there.
              
              kyle  wurtz 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              whatever happened to the damn "21" day thing....just something to satisfy ppl for a bit to buy them time..
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  5:59 PM 03/19/13
              if that was tru I would have had my refund by now
              
              Jessica Hernandez 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              I have had topic 152 for almost 2 months now, have not had a dd date
              
              Natasha S 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              Quintell i tried this morning it wouldnt let me 
              
              Terri Isenberg 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              I think Bart is over it
              
              Quintell Moore 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              ok Thank you Natasha S.
              
              BartD  5:59 PM 03/19/13
              that's because u bounce in and out of errors
              
              BartD  5:59 PM 03/19/13
              not flagged
              
              Katharine Bird 5:59 PM 03/19/13
              but why would they do that...the only thing holding me back was the ED credit...my TA is no help at all...I have a severely handicapped son with many medical needs..I wrote a check out that is going to bounce to pay for fuel oil that I couldnt afford to buy and my TA told me that wasnt emergent enough of a problem...I have no money for food..I had to take a leave from my job because my son started having seizures and needed medical care..I dont know how much more emergent life has to be..
              
              BartD  6:00 PM 03/19/13
              no i am not over it remember i am working AS WELL
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:00 PM 03/19/13
              I'm really sorry to keep reasking this but I'm just really confused...you say no tax topic=bad, but if you were told you were out of errors just a couple days ago and WMR hasn't updated to show no bars and no tax topic, is that a sign that you aren't out of errors? Even though the rep said it could take WMR up to 7 days to update? Again sorry for the repeat I just don't get it
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:00 PM 03/19/13
              @Isenberg...I don't blame him...but I appreciate his help...
              
              BartD  6:00 PM 03/19/13
              i have a contract with irs and apple and live in PA not California its not easy lol
              
              wnosma  6:00 PM 03/19/13
              first time i've checked it in over a week, but it's changed in the last few days. but wtf do i do about my TA?
              
              wnosma  6:01 PM 03/19/13
              I couldn't even get the freakin supervisor on the phone
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:01 PM 03/19/13
              I know bart i would be if I were you with all these questions
              
              lware10  6:01 PM 03/19/13
              @kyle wurtz...I'm with u
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:01 PM 03/19/13
              Bart did waht u said called twice so far and hung upoup on both times..this is crazy this onee actually told me that i had no right tio get my owm info..  first was miss grace didnt get number my bad.. second was a supervisor ms matiu 1072631  first was told out of errors 3/18 and then super said in errors/reveiw  wtf??  calling again now.. im not letting these assholes do this bs
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:02 PM 03/19/13
              Call your congressman kwurtz
              
              BartD  6:02 PM 03/19/13
              i am writingall id that are rude
              
              BartD  6:02 PM 03/19/13
              or hang up
              
              BartD  6:03 PM 03/19/13
              TA = bad for anyone with a delay
              
              BartD  6:03 PM 03/19/13
              just hinders u from pissing the irs off calling them
              
              wnosma  6:03 PM 03/19/13
              i don't need to piss anyone off, i just need to keep my lights on.
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:03 PM 03/19/13
              unfortunalty my congressman got me a ta b4 i knew it was a bad thing to do..
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:04 PM 03/19/13
              @Katherine not sure the reason but the IRS has the fraud program and their own limits for certain things that if you go over, your refund could get temporarily frozen.
              
              wnosma  6:04 PM 03/19/13
              she said she was supposed to hear back from IRS within 10 days. that they have 10 days to pull my file and get her the info.
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:04 PM 03/19/13
              and i did not sign ovr my rights to her so how can they tell me i cant get my own info more lies!!
              
              how..much..longer  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              I?ve been receiving the generic message still processing and a refund date will be provided once available for well over a month now on Where's My Refund (WMR). All of my information is there including my amount but no tax topic.
              
              2013taxpayer  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              freeze
              
              BartD  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              ur a in freeze as well
              
              BartD  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              yup
              
              ihateitall  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              I have had that and mine does have topic 152
              
              BartD  6:05 PM 03/19/13
              you guys are starting to understand the system well
              
              Katharine Bird 6:06 PM 03/19/13
              what is a freeze Bart
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:06 PM 03/19/13
              @longer...Yeah, me too...except that IRS says check back in 21 days from 3/9...so what does a freeze mean exactly?
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:06 PM 03/19/13
              is it limbo?  no good news but not bad because it hasn't been looked at yet?
              
              bigtimeny1  6:06 PM 03/19/13
              bart rymes with fart
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:06 PM 03/19/13
              ill call all day if i have to
              
              BartD  6:07 PM 03/19/13
              freeze is when the account actually isn't processing its is in que for 1 or many departments for a flag review audit or major error
              
              BartD  6:07 PM 03/19/13
              irs can self correct a freeze and some may never get a letter where some wand many of you have gotten a letter
              
              Natasha S 6:07 PM 03/19/13
              my generic message was up until yesterday now today amount disappeared 
              
              bigtimeny1  6:07 PM 03/19/13
              bart bart rymes with fart
              
              Natasha S 6:08 PM 03/19/13
              never got a letter one of the cases that bart is stating 
              
              Katharine Bird 6:08 PM 03/19/13
              I was told the only thing that is holding mine up is the Ed credit..could that be what is causing it to freeze
              
              Natasha S 6:08 PM 03/19/13
              my only error stated to me was 8863 form
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:08 PM 03/19/13
              I'm sorry to keep asking but I think my comment got lost in the mix, I'm confused no tax topic generic message with amount there=freeze, but what happens if you just came out of errors a couple days ago? And WMR hasn't updated to anything new? No tax topic=bad but the rep said it could take uofo 7 days for WMR to update? Sorry I'm confused and that's why I keep asking so is this a good indicator I'm not out of errors? Or was the rep possibly right that I am and I just need to let the system update?
              
              ihateitall  6:10 PM 03/19/13
              @bart i got a check from my employer this year I have cancer so I went on disablity and company sold so they gave me a severence for the years I was there of 17k and it was taxed they took 5k out of itis that what probably sent out my 4464c LTR
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:11 PM 03/19/13
              Oh, so when an account is frozen what is required for the self-correct? is that a programing  issue or something more serious and time consuming?  
              
              BartD  6:11 PM 03/19/13
              hate yes i am sorry about yor cancer and that will def trigger the 4464
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:11 PM 03/19/13
              i was told 3 times out of errors on 3/18, now supervisor says im still in who do i believe?? if i wernt about to be evicted next week unless i have a dd date i wouldnt be so upset
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:12 PM 03/19/13
              @Gabriel, it can self-correct and release the refund if no one has looked at the return physically in the allotted time.
              
              ihateitall  6:12 PM 03/19/13
              OK so thery should just be able to verify with employer and all be good
              
              BartD  6:12 PM 03/19/13
              self correct frozen is what ever they nee to fix the rrn they can get it them selves and don't need you to provide anything
              
              BartD  6:13 PM 03/19/13
              hateall yes that is what u are waiting for
              
              wnosma  6:13 PM 03/19/13
              so why did i get a letter so late?
              
              wnosma  6:13 PM 03/19/13
              even after I was assigned a TA?
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:13 PM 03/19/13
              I used to verify W-2s by calling employers for them
              
              ihateitall  6:14 PM 03/19/13
              @bart is it true that most large companies they can verify in real time with a computer program that the IRS has?
              
              BartD  6:14 PM 03/19/13
              Thomas lol that sucks as a job than u will know a lot of employers wont give the information even if it s the irs hence the delays
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:15 PM 03/19/13
              @Bart, yep. I worked in AMTAP for a hot min.
              
              BartD  6:15 PM 03/19/13
              ihate only if the company already submitted the w2
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:16 PM 03/19/13
              is the reprocessing date of 3/9 significant?
              
              BartD  6:16 PM 03/19/13
              brb getting chager u guys killed my battery
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:16 PM 03/19/13
              Large companies send IRS a disk like Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart has major fraud.
              
              ihateitall  6:17 PM 03/19/13
              the company I work for was a division of the New York Times
              
              Naomi Marie 6:17 PM 03/19/13
              curious why is BartD so popular? what his expertise? 
              
              wnosma  6:17 PM 03/19/13
              was wondering too... :-/
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:18 PM 03/19/13
              21 days from 3/9?  The IRS has 21 days from then before they officially look at if?  @ Marie...evidently he worked as a contractor with the IRS for a minute.
              
              ihateitall  6:18 PM 03/19/13
              he is a computer programer who has a contraact with the IRS
              
              Naomi Marie 6:18 PM 03/19/13
              oh okay
              
              Naomi Marie 6:18 PM 03/19/13
              well that answers taht
              
              Naomi Marie 6:18 PM 03/19/13
              that*
              
              BartD  6:18 PM 03/19/13
              ok back
              
              Fern Bizz 6:19 PM 03/19/13
              I RECEIVED A CP12 NOTICE... DUE TO MATHEMATICAL ERRORS THEY CLAIM I SHOULD BE GETTING BACK A BIGGER REFUND AND I STARTED PROCESSING ON 3/11/13 EVEN THOUGH I FILED SINCE 2-14. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BART
              
              BartD  6:19 PM 03/19/13
              haha people with iphone battery drain issues wait for the new iphone u will have even more battery drain issues
              
              BartD  6:20 PM 03/19/13
              lets go apple
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:20 PM 03/19/13
              lol.
              
              Natasha S 6:20 PM 03/19/13
              Bart TELL APPLE MAKE LONGER CHARGER CORDS lol
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:20 PM 03/19/13
              This will be even worse once IRS furloughs it employees
              
              BartD  6:20 PM 03/19/13
              ok back to topic been debugging a phone all morning that has more bugs than a roach infested hotel
              
              BartD  6:21 PM 03/19/13
              lol apple once short chargers dore a reason
              
              BartD  6:21 PM 03/19/13
              for a reason
              
              Natasha S 6:22 PM 03/19/13
              Bart ugggh short chargers suck (side bar)
              
              BartD  6:22 PM 03/19/13
              lol i am running and 10 foot extension cord
              
              Natasha S 6:22 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              BartD  6:23 PM 03/19/13
              lol its so funny u guys ave me running and extension cord through my house 
              
              Fern Bizz 6:23 PM 03/19/13
              I RECEIVED A CP12 NOTICE... DUE TO MATHEMATICAL ERRORS THEY CLAIM I SHOULD BE GETTING BACK A BIGGER REFUND AND I STARTED PROCESSING ON 3/11/13 EVEN THOUGH I FILED SINCE 2-14. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BARTD????
              
              Gabriel Reilly 6:23 PM 03/19/13
              If an account has been "processing" since the 9th is there anything a person can do to get it looked at?  Or just wait and hope that it gets proecssed before the 21 days?
              
              Natasha S 6:23 PM 03/19/13
              Bart we really do appreciate your help honestly 
              
              BartD  6:24 PM 03/19/13
              bitz i say congrats and wait
              
              BartD  6:24 PM 03/19/13
              welcome
              
              BartD  6:25 PM 03/19/13
              rumors with a 4.8 inch iphone 6 not 5s that is being released july opps did i say that is true SHHHHHHH i never told u or apple police will kill me
              
              8863 1/25 6:25 PM 03/19/13
              bartz help 
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:26 PM 03/19/13
              @christine W, same boat but IRS keeps giving me diff answers as to if im in errors or not,, i dont know who to believe.. i dont hav time to wait for answers i need to know what my next move is..wait or pack my belongings.. after this is ovr i swear im making some real noise about how this has screwed us all
              
              8863 1/25 6:26 PM 03/19/13
              verified 4883c on 2/28 still nothing
              
              8863 1/25 6:26 PM 03/19/13
              and an agent told me i needed to verify again yesterday
              
              Fern Bizz 6:26 PM 03/19/13
              SO U THINK I SHOULD JUST WAIT CAUSE I ORDERED MY TRANSCRIPTS AFTER I RECEIVED THE LETTER AND IT SAYS THE SAME INFORMATION BUT IT SAYS I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 4-6 WEEKS FROM 3/11/2013. DO U THINK IT WILL BE THAT LONG TO WAIT? I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE 2-14????
              
              Missy Smith 6:27 PM 03/19/13
              bart if all of these 4883c have to be processed manually will we all get paper check or will it be dd
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:27 PM 03/19/13
              good question missy
              
              BartD  6:27 PM 03/19/13
              8863 i stated this earlier ur going to have to wait unfortunately u are being manul entered due to computer issues with irs
              
              8863 1/25 6:27 PM 03/19/13
              wow
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:27 PM 03/19/13
              If you have been pulled how do you know? Also in general how long does that process take?
              
              Shevon Thomas 6:28 PM 03/19/13
              wondering that too Christine
              
              BartD  6:28 PM 03/19/13
              smith no sometimes mistake is made (shocker)and u get a paper check but manually processed through stage 1 so u still become electron through the rest
              
              BartD  6:28 PM 03/19/13
              electronic
              
              Missy Smith 6:29 PM 03/19/13
              thank god
              
              BartD  6:29 PM 03/19/13
              Christine there is no general
              
              BartD  6:29 PM 03/19/13
              its only when they pick ur file when they do it when they feel like it
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:29 PM 03/19/13
              Karen I'm so confused! I don't know if I really am out of errors and just need to wait a few days for everything to update or what but after this convo I don't have a good feeling
              
              BartD  6:29 PM 03/19/13
              its reslly that plain
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:30 PM 03/19/13
              Oh great 
              
              8863 1/25 6:31 PM 03/19/13
              how many returns can they manually process per day bartd
              
              Fern Bizz 6:31 PM 03/19/13
              SO U THINK I SHOULD JUST WAIT CAUSE I ORDERED MY TRANSCRIPTS AFTER I RECEIVED THE LETTER AND IT SAYS THE SAME INFORMATION BUT IT SAYS I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 4-6 WEEKS FROM 3/11/2013. DO U THINK IT WILL BE THAT LONG TO WAIT? I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE 2-14????
              
              BartD  6:32 PM 03/19/13
              yup u have to wait
              
              BartD  6:32 PM 03/19/13
              hahah manually processed per day is very randomumber
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:32 PM 03/19/13
              I know it's been asked but I want to hear your answer Bart...can you get your refund without being able to order transcripts?
              
              BartD  6:32 PM 03/19/13
              epends on how long each return takes and how fast some types
              
              BartD  6:33 PM 03/19/13
              estimate is  5000-7000 on a good day about 15000
              
              8863 1/25 6:33 PM 03/19/13
              dang
              
              8863 1/25 6:33 PM 03/19/13
              this is going to be a marathon
              
              Missy Smith 6:33 PM 03/19/13
              and there are how many of us
              
              Missy Smith 6:33 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              8863 1/25 6:33 PM 03/19/13
              :(
              
              BartD  6:33 PM 03/19/13
              smith as of right now a lot 
              
              Missy Smith 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              to many
              
              8863 1/25 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              are they processing late filers first bart?
              
              BartD  6:34 PM 03/19/13
              remember its not just 8863 4483 there asre others in the mix
              
              8863 1/25 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              and putting early filers in the back
              
              Missy Smith 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              well christmas is a good time to get some extra cash
              
              Missy Smith 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              8863 1/25 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              lol missy
              
              8863 1/25 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              they would pay us interest i think
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              christine, i know the limbo is stressing me out so bad, feel like i should be packing my stuff to leave..no where to go ,,i want to believe the 3 reps that were nice and told me out of errors yesterday but i dont know what to do now
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:34 PM 03/19/13
              Haha I really don't want to wait till xmas
              
              BartD  6:34 PM 03/19/13
              8863 early filers became unpostable its just a mess
              
              BartD  6:35 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett no u wont 
              
              Missy Smith 6:35 PM 03/19/13
              I think I have already started collecting interest
              
              BartD  6:35 PM 03/19/13
              Hensley ur prolly out of errors
              
              BartD  6:35 PM 03/19/13
              hahah nope
              
              BartD  6:36 PM 03/19/13
              smith noooo
              
              jennyleesmiles  6:36 PM 03/19/13
              i just wish that they would give us consistant information
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:36 PM 03/19/13
              Would you say it's true that they are finally starting to pump out these returns with the edu credits? From that announcement hrb made it made it seem like they are finally making progress
              
              BartD  6:36 PM 03/19/13
              interest is not till tax filing closes
              
              Missy Smith 6:36 PM 03/19/13
              really
              
              Missy Smith 6:36 PM 03/19/13
              that sucks
              
              Missy Smith 6:36 PM 03/19/13
              I thought it was after 45 days
              
              jennyleesmiles  6:36 PM 03/19/13
              so, you will not get a dd if you cannot order transcripts or see tax topic?
              
              BartD  6:37 PM 03/19/13
              no
              
              Missy Smith 6:37 PM 03/19/13
              you just popped my balloon bart
              
              8863 1/25 6:37 PM 03/19/13
              i ordered my transcripts a month ago
              
              8863 1/25 6:37 PM 03/19/13
              had 152 etc
              
              8863 1/25 6:37 PM 03/19/13
              no ddd yet
              
              BartD  6:37 PM 03/19/13
              smiles not right way
              
              jennyleesmiles  6:37 PM 03/19/13
              thank you. 
              
              8863 1/25 6:37 PM 03/19/13
              does the cycle number have any relation to a ddd?
              
              8863 1/25 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              mine says 20130905
              
              8863 1/25 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              on my return tran
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              Karen I hate this feeling and I'm not in the same situation you are but I definitely could use that money! I have an electric cut off notice but I should be able to come up with the cash but it's frustrating! I do hope you get good news fast!
              
              BartD  6:38 PM 03/19/13
              that's because ur in libo early filers a diffenet story
              
              8863 1/25 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              true
              
              mickey m  6:38 PM 03/19/13
              /4
              
              8863 1/25 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              i heard about 8863ers being unpostable
              
              jennyleesmiles  6:38 PM 03/19/13
              i just wish that they would give me a straight answer. I have moved and I updated my address on four diff occasions and they still have no record of the new address
              
              Missy Smith 6:38 PM 03/19/13
              what is limbo bart
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:39 PM 03/19/13
              I think we all want straight answers...heck I would love to see an update to WMR but if I could get a straight honest answer I'd be happy
              
              jennyleesmiles  6:40 PM 03/19/13
              me too
              
              Nick Stewart 6:40 PM 03/19/13
              Lets see what you got for me Bart. Filed 1-27 accepted 2-14 WMR shows dates and refund amounts but message is still processing a refund date will be supplied when available no 152 topic. Been this way since 3-4
              
              Crystal Long 6:40 PM 03/19/13
              What does unpostable mean? I filed 1/29 accepterd on 2/14, today I lost my amount and tax topic 152 reappeared. Is that a good sign?
              
              8863 1/25 6:40 PM 03/19/13
              nick it means its still processing
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:40 PM 03/19/13
              Crystal that is
              
              BartD  6:40 PM 03/19/13
              steward u have a freeze
              
              Nick Stewart 6:40 PM 03/19/13
              a freeze?
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:41 PM 03/19/13
              So you can be out of errors and be frozen?
              
              Shareen W 6:41 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I have the same message as Nick does
              
              Hannah Lee 6:41 PM 03/19/13
              yeah, i'm in the same situation :/
              
              BartD  6:41 PM 03/19/13
              yeah its not always as bad as u think means return was pulled and being looked at
              
              ma4pa  6:41 PM 03/19/13
              Brrrrrr its cold in here
              
              Shareen W 6:42 PM 03/19/13
              I guess it could be worse we could actually owe them money
              
              Missy Smith 6:42 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:42 PM 03/19/13
              So if you are out of errors with a freeze a person is looking at your return?
              
              BartD  6:42 PM 03/19/13
              ma4pa i think people are starting not to like my answers
              
              8863 1/25 6:43 PM 03/19/13
              bartD what makes you qualified?
              
              Missy Smith 6:43 PM 03/19/13
              its just the cold hard truth bart
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:43 PM 03/19/13
              Bart..just tell me more about the new iphone.. I like to hear all about that..lol 
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:43 PM 03/19/13
              I don't think it's that Bart I know a lot of people have gotten a lot of information from you, for me it's all confusing
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:43 PM 03/19/13
              Bart..you are doing what you can..I thank you for all your input
              
              ma4pa  6:43 PM 03/19/13
              well sometimes the truth is painful
              
              BartD  6:43 PM 03/19/13
              my irs id is 1548741 that's what makes me qualifie
              
              8863 1/25 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              nice!
              
              BartD  6:44 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              mickey m  6:44 PM 03/19/13
              leave him alone he is just trying to help.
              
              Keisha Walker 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              lol @bart
              
              Nick Stewart 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              LOL Bart don't tell them that they might start asking you to look up their refunds ;)
              
              8863 1/25 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Natasha S 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              Bart the truth hurts
              
              Natasha S 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              atleast you're being honest and giving us some answers 
              
              8863 1/25 6:44 PM 03/19/13
              people enough slobbering lmao
              
              BartD  6:45 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              8863 1/25 6:45 PM 03/19/13
              i think bart's helmet is bruised
              
              Natasha S 6:45 PM 03/19/13
              poor Bart :(
              
              Natasha S 6:45 PM 03/19/13
              rather have the truth than a bunch of run around
              
              Keisha Walker 6:45 PM 03/19/13
              hey bart so i took advice and ive called 3 times today to the IRS and all they would tell me is im in errors and that to wait 4-6 weeks before i call back. when i asked what error code i had they said they couldnt tell
              
              BartD  6:45 PM 03/19/13
              lol i am ok guys
              
              mamaof4  6:45 PM 03/19/13
              they always say they cant see anything
              
              Keisha Walker 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              filed 1/31 1 dep. and edu creds :( any advice?
              
              Crystal Long 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              I think most of them are lazy and as soon as you tell them or they see 8863 they just dont care and tell you anything
              
              8863 1/25 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              i would be too
              
              Nina Sumayang-Tongco 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              BartD, many 8863rs had a WMR update of no amount and 152 reappearing. do you think this is a good sign in general?
              
              8863 1/25 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              answering 1000000 calls a day
              
              Keisha Walker 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              i didnt tell them i had edu creds because bart said not to mention it lol
              
              8863 1/25 6:46 PM 03/19/13
              common sense come on now
              
              BartD  6:47 PM 03/19/13
              walker ok they liked cause they can tell but if ur in errors there is nothing u can do until ur out so call daily three time to see the day they say ur out and count to 10 that will  be or should be around ur ddd
              
              BartD  6:47 PM 03/19/13
              lied
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:47 PM 03/19/13
              I think I'm just going to call again today and see what they say...what's the best time to call? 
              
              BartD  6:48 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett after 5 is when computers last update
              
              8863 1/25 6:48 PM 03/19/13
              when they open
              
              Crystal Long 6:48 PM 03/19/13
              oic, but they can see it as soon as they pull you up. The rep I talked to was very helpful until she said "oh you have an 8863", "theres nothing more I can tell you other than it will be 4-6 more weeks" First time I called and she was a pleasant one let me tell ya. 
              
              Keisha Walker 6:48 PM 03/19/13
              ok ty bart ;) i hope they figure this our soon
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:48 PM 03/19/13
              5 est or local time?
              
              BartD  6:48 PM 03/19/13
              long lol that's the issue she saw 8863 call again
              
              BartD  6:49 PM 03/19/13
              5 pm local there are 1 main computer system in texas and three flating systems located in locations i cant say
              
              Crystal Long 6:49 PM 03/19/13
              I lost my amount today and gained the tax topic should I just give it a couple days
              
              Nina Sumayang-Tongco 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              same boat here crystal
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              me too crystal
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              Okay thanks hopefully I get consistent answers
              
              Natasha S 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              Crystal same boat here
              
              BartD  6:50 PM 03/19/13
              crystal give it till this time next week
              
              Crystal Long 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              ty
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:50 PM 03/19/13
              If you got your tax topic back that's a good sign
              
              Crystal Long 6:51 PM 03/19/13
              I want my refund for my bday on April 2
              
              8863 1/25 6:51 PM 03/19/13
              bart i got a tax topic a month ago
              
              8863 1/25 6:51 PM 03/19/13
              what happen
              
              BartD  6:51 PM 03/19/13
              everyone is sending me 5% percent of there tax return when they get it right
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:51 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              SueL  6:51 PM 03/19/13
              if you give the answers we want we will :)
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              Haha if I get it soon :)
              
              Nick Stewart 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              Hell I would send 5% to have my money deposited tomorrow LOL
              
              Keisha Walker 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              lol @bart if we were to ever see our return that is
              
              BartD  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              ok everyone is getting there money omorrow
              
              BartD  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              there ur answer
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              Woohoo
              
              BartD  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              pay me
              
              ihateitall  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              @bart if you can call a friend down there and get mine now I will give you 5%
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              woohoo!
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              ;)
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:52 PM 03/19/13
              me too
              
              mickey m  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              I will send you 10% if I can get it by next fri 3/29 sunday is my bday
              
              SueL  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              no if we get it tomororow we give you 5%...but 5% of 0 is still 0!
              
              BartD  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              ihateall noooooo i don't want money
              
              ihateitall  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              @bart and mine is 12k
              
              BartD  6:52 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              ihateitall  6:53 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:53 PM 03/19/13
              I would even do 10% to have it tomorrow
              
              Crystal Long 6:53 PM 03/19/13
              Me too Christine
              
              BartD  6:53 PM 03/19/13
              so i guess we will do IOU's
              
              ihateitall  6:53 PM 03/19/13
              me too whitsett
              
              Missy Smith 6:53 PM 03/19/13
              what do you have to do to get 12k back
              
              BartD  6:53 PM 03/19/13
              no comment
              
              Missy Smith 6:53 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:53 PM 03/19/13
              just an update on wmr would make me feel aweome
              
              ihateitall  6:53 PM 03/19/13
              HOH 3 dep make 17k and pay in 5k
              
              ihateitall  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              @missy
              
              mickey m  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              ok 10.5% and we all get are refunds by next week  lol
              
              SueL  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              I would just love to see ORANGE
              
              SueL  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              bars
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:54 PM 03/19/13
              me too
              
              Missy Smith 6:54 PM 03/19/13
              I paid in 5k too but dont get that back
              
              BartD  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              seriously i wish i could processthem all my self
              
              ihateitall  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              not me want to see deposit in my bank
              
              mamaof4  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I have the closed unpostable and i am hold with the lie r s now...what do i ask them???
              
              BartD  6:54 PM 03/19/13
              everyone would get an extra 200 for waiting
              
              Kelly Allessi 6:54 PM 03/19/13
              I just wanna see money in my bank account..bars mean nothing to me..lol
              
              mickey m  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              forget the orange bars you wanna see the money trust me
              
              SueL  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              well yes but orange bars would be better than nothing
              
              Terri Isenberg 6:55 PM 03/19/13
              i just want some kind of hope
              
              Nick Stewart 6:55 PM 03/19/13
              I would just like to know real information on my refund instead of all the different stuff Im told. In errors out of errors still processing. Or my fav you've been processing since 2-18 give it another 6-8 weeks
              
              SueL  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              which it's been since 3/4
              
              BartD  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              ask about if ur in errors
              
              ihateitall  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              @missy did you only make 17k with 3 kids so i got eic and child tax credit
              
              BartD  6:55 PM 03/19/13
              and what is the date u started reporcessing
              
              Crystal Long 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              I asked that and they wouldn't tell me anything
              
              Nick Stewart 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I have actually they can't supply dates. If Im actually in errors etc
              
              Missy Smith 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              no all my kids are grown
              
              Keisha Walker 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              yea thats what happened to me crystal
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              @bart got another rude one..hung up on me again, i was very pushy but not disrespectful, let her know i was looking for answers."a
              
              mamaof4  6:56 PM 03/19/13
              i will demand answers and then get hung up on lol
              
              ihateitall  6:56 PM 03/19/13
              @missy that is why
              
              BartD  6:56 PM 03/19/13
              yeah they cant give u the date if ur still there
              
              thickskint  6:56 PM 03/19/13
              hey bart the magnificent! filed 2/1, no education just eic, self employed. still processing fate when avaiilable message since feb 18th! no letters and none have been sent.
              
              Keisha Walker 6:56 PM 03/19/13
              yea i got hung up on once tpday already too
              
              Nick Stewart 6:57 PM 03/19/13
              I can see that Bart, but you call one time get told in errors, call the next day told I am not in errors and never was
              
              BartD  6:57 PM 03/19/13
              u need to know how many day in errors do u habe left there is a count doiwn error 100 is 5 days error 201 is 15 and so on
              
              Missy Smith 6:57 PM 03/19/13
              I hope you get it soon ihateitall
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:57 PM 03/19/13
              Okay one more time of asking and then ill stop...told out of errors over weekend WMR still shows generic message return still being processed amount still to the left no tax topic, basically rep told me it could take up to 7 days for WMR to update and show a ddd, so is this a good indicator I am out of errors but with a freeze? I'm just trying to figure this out and I know you have so many questions but I promise ill stop asking this one :) plus I know so many people are in this same boat
              
              Missy Smith 6:57 PM 03/19/13
              I would love to get that kind of money back
              
              BartD  6:57 PM 03/19/13
              if one say u are than u are
              
              BartD  6:57 PM 03/19/13
              me 2
              
              mamaof4  6:57 PM 03/19/13
              me 3
              
              Nick Stewart 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              They also said I was going to get a letter two weeks ago I never got, nor could they give me the error code
              
              Nick Stewart 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              or letter type
              
              Karen Joiner Hensley 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              something happened in chat her name is Marcus id#0198232.. i told her it was her job to answer my question and then she repeated 6 week script and hung up
              
              Crystal Long 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              i have the tax topic back and no amount, I thought that meant i was out of errors and back into processing
              
              mamaof4  6:58 PM 03/19/13
              they really need to change their music on here
              
              BEBE FORD 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              Bart I check this morning on WMR it is showing this still:Your tax return is still being processed.
              
              A refund date will be provided when available.
              
              Please read the following information related to your tax situation: 
              Tax Topic 152, Refund Information 
              Please Note:
              For refund information, please continue to check here, or use our free mobile app, IRS2Go. Updates to refund status are made no more than once a day.
               My bar been gone HnR block 8863 they  corrected it irs no letters. I was a 12c they said I am looking fine last week. My 21 day was maech 14. What is the deal? 
              
              BEBE FORD 6:58 PM 03/19/13
              I ment march not maech...lol
              
              BartD  6:58 PM 03/19/13
              whitsett yeas because u were in freeze staus if ur out than WMR will act a little funny
              
              BEBE FORD 6:59 PM 03/19/13
              sorry it is so long 
              
              Christine Whitsett 6:59 PM 03/19/13
              Okay so I'm not in freeze then anymore? 
              
              BartD  6:59 PM 03/19/13
              it seems to be that way
              
              BartD  6:59 PM 03/19/13
              ford
              
              BartD  7:00 PM 03/19/13
              ur still in processing or errors ignore the 21 day that's out the window
              
              BartD  7:01 PM 03/19/13
              9 out of 10 people before 21 days is a lie 7 out of 10 is correct
              
              mamaof4  7:01 PM 03/19/13
              if your in errors why do they say its still processing?
              
              BartD  7:01 PM 03/19/13
              cause ur in que and they cant see the error
              
              Christine Whitsett 7:01 PM 03/19/13
              Okay well I'm going to believe that rep who said I was out of errors and hopefully my WMR will update soon, should be if its 3-5 days normal 
              
              BEBE FORD 7:01 PM 03/19/13
              Bart how long could this take
              
              BartD  7:02 PM 03/19/13
              this is y the irs is fucking with u guys if they say ur in errors they have to see a code cause that's what tells them ur in errors its like they just don't want to tell u
              
              Christine Whitsett 7:02 PM 03/19/13
              Do you count the day that you came out of error?
              
              BEBE FORD 7:02 PM 03/19/13
              error for how long. last night u mention I may get ddd soon
              
              BartD  7:02 PM 03/19/13
              no never count the day cause processing has a que as well which is 1 -2 days max
              
              Christine Whitsett 7:03 PM 03/19/13
              Oh okay cool and can you ask for the error code or do they not tell you that?
              
              BartD  7:03 PM 03/19/13
              ford could be less than 10 days'
              
              BEBE FORD 7:03 PM 03/19/13
              They said my account showed good standing 
              
              SueL  7:04 PM 03/19/13
              what does "good standing" mean BartD
              
              BartD  7:04 PM 03/19/13
              they seem to not be telling people and that makes a differencre if i knew the code
              
              Michelle Baray 7:04 PM 03/19/13
              i just called and said that im in review for first time buyers credit .and that it should be after march 25 what do you think bart? how many days? 
              
              mamaof4  7:04 PM 03/19/13
              here we go
              
              BartD  7:04 PM 03/19/13
              i could give u guys exact information on what going on and better estimated times
              
              SueL  7:04 PM 03/19/13
              go for it Bart
              
              BartD  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              SUEl means nothing but i am pretending to look
              
              SueL  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              ?
              
              thickskint  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              i was told there was a system problem...whats that  mean and how long of a wait to fix that?
              
              how..much..longer  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              should you call about a freeze
              
              BartD  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              that's what good standing me they put u on hold st and talked to someone and came back and said it all looks good
              
              jemar2013  7:05 PM 03/19/13
              @all please use the following thread we created especially for BartD and his following:
              
              BartD  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              longer u cant try
              
              jemar2013  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/
              
              SueL  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              ahhh....
              
              mamaof4  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              pretty nice guy
              
              how..much..longer  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              thanks
              
              jemar2013  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              We are hoping this will make a better experience for all to follow this trend in information being provided.
              
              BartD  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              wow I am fAMOUS
              
              Christine Whitsett 7:06 PM 03/19/13
              Bart you are famous!
              
              2013taxpayer  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              BartD  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              LOL JUST SAID THAT
              
              jemar2013  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              You are Bart!
              
              jemar2013  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              lol.
              
              BartD  7:06 PM 03/19/13
              lol
              
              jemar2013  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              We like to embrace the interests and thoughts of users, that's the purpose of our site.
              
              BEBE FORD 7:07 PM 03/19/13
              Bart so in days you think I could have a ddd
              
              BartD  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              ford more like couple weeks best case days
              
              jemar2013  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              Our chat window features will undergo some changes shortly and we appreciate your presence on the site.
              
              BartD  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              thanks jemar2013
              
              how..much..longer  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              since I have the dreaded freeze it's safe to assume i will not be seeing a return anytime soon???
              
              jemar2013  7:07 PM 03/19/13
              So we wanted to funnel the chat there.  Happy Refunding:  https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/
              
              BartD  7:08 PM 03/19/13
              like upgrading amount of users
              
              BartD  7:08 PM 03/19/13
              making it iphone friendly
              
              BEBE FORD 7:08 PM 03/19/13
              I am so over this take season man... Thanks bart
              
              BartD  7:08 PM 03/19/13
              like good changes or irs changes
              
              jemar2013  7:08 PM 03/19/13
              Actually replacing the platform, this one is costly to continuing upgrading for number of users.  And that fact that Admin or Mods can't get in when full is poor functionality in my eyes :)
              
              BEBE FORD 7:08 PM 03/19/13
              Would it help if I call them today Bart 
              
              BartD  7:09 PM 03/19/13
              so will the chat go down
              
              BartD  7:09 PM 03/19/13
              and how long
              
              jemar2013  7:09 PM 03/19/13
              Phone friendly on list of to-dos...along with iPhone and Android App :)  Of course, this is all as time and funds permit... (we take donations, wink wink....lol)
              
              Michelle Baray 7:09 PM 03/19/13
              Bart missed my question...
              
              SueL  7:09 PM 03/19/13
              that doesn't look like we can post in it?
              
              jemar2013  7:09 PM 03/19/13
              Not sure how we will handle chat change and if/when it will go down...  In the meantime, we ask that this chat be moved to the page:  https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/
              
              jemar2013  7:10 PM 03/19/13
              comment section at bottom.... i will move the box if necessary.
              
              jemar2013  7:10 PM 03/19/13
              but then it will appear similiar to main feed.
              
              BartD  7:10 PM 03/19/13
              yeah ill donate donate and so should everyone that can and when they can
              
              BartD  7:10 PM 03/19/13
              going to he other page
              
              jemar2013  7:10 PM 03/19/13
              Thanks all :)  And if you want to donate skills, (hmmmn, lets say IT skills, wink wink Bart), we love the help.
              
              SueL  7:11 PM 03/19/13
              got thanks
              
              Latoya Farmer 7:12 PM 03/19/13
              i need help
              
              Jen B 7:12 PM 03/19/13
              Hey jemar if you need an IT guy my husband does that.. I am sure he wouldnt mind
              
              Latoya Farmer 7:12 PM 03/19/13
              i was told i am in workables. what is that?
              
              BEBE FORD 7:13 PM 03/19/13
              Bart should I call IRS today and see what info I can out of them
              
              Latoya Farmer 7:15 PM 03/19/13
              please help BartD
              
              jemar2013  7:15 PM 03/19/13
              wooot woot Jen B.  We love help.  Email us ad [email protected] with any skills you would like to offer.  We will respond asap...but are crazy busy right now  (sucks that you dont have time to find help, lol...)
              
              jemar2013  7:15 PM 03/19/13
              Please use https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/ to get in contact and follow the BartD convo.
              
              Latoya Farmer 7:18 PM 03/19/13
              Can anyone help w my question
              
              ma4pa  7:18 PM 03/19/13
              thank you mother bear for your help with this situation I know ya must be tried of my wants,,,,lol
              
              jemar2013  7:19 PM 03/19/13
              Never tired of ma4pa!  Or any of you, that has always been my goal, to help the most people and do the most good.
              
              jemar2013  7:19 PM 03/19/13
              Latoya, I am trying to send this feed over here, please use https://igotmyrefund.com/barts-thoughts/ to follow Bart or another chat window, this will close soon.
              
              mamaof4  7:20 PM 03/19/13
              agent said unpostable was closed out march 11th
              
              Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:25 PM 03/19/13
              Hello Bart I have been reading your post for days so I decided to post my problem. I filed on Jan 28 I was rejected, I called in Feb they said I would get a letter cause I was in errors. Not letter. I called back in march and they said that I was still in the first stage of processing and I sould be out by monday. Well monday came and gone and still same message. I had the your return has been recived and being processed you should recieve your return within 21 days. Then on March 4 it changed to still processing and a date will be provide when available. What is this referal thing i am hearing and how long can I stay in the first phase of processing. 
              
              Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:27 PM 03/19/13
              Bart also I am self-employed have been for the last eight years and are claiming the same dependents. 
              
              Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:28 PM 03/19/13
              I also got audited last year and had to go to tax court and I won and they paid me my money with interest.,
              
              Tawanna Stallworth Johnson L 7:29 PM 03/19/13
              Bart! Bart!Bart!
              
              Tamara  7:30 PM 03/19/13
              The last agent I talked to I asked him "Am I in errors or not?" He said "Well, yes and no" I don't understand how can it be yes and no
              
              Hannah Lee 7:38 PM 03/19/13
              I just told I showed no errors on my account and showed that it was processing. Even though I don't have tax topic 152 yet and still see an amount, thats good. I spoke with a TA and she was very helpful
              
              thickskint  7:48 PM 03/19/13
              bart....error code 349---system problem. been in errors for 29 days. what can u say about this code....i googled and it said Not Effectively Collected Income
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:51 PM 03/19/13
              just got off the phone with IRS, 
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:51 PM 03/19/13
              he went in to a long speal of how it all went down, that everyone who got flagged for the educaiton fund, went in to errers because system could not read form correctly
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:52 PM 03/19/13
              i went in there feb 19, so i now know where that date came from, and we sat until march 11th, when their system got an update
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:53 PM 03/19/13
              then everyone with that education form went back in, and they are all back logged, so the date for everyone who filed on feb 15th and before should hvae thier money no later then april 8th
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:53 PM 03/19/13
              personally april 8th date sucks if i have to wait that long, 
              
              mamaof4  7:54 PM 03/19/13
              how long did they tell you wait ?
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:57 PM 03/19/13
              he said no more then 4 weeks from the time we were all put back in to processing and that date was march 11th, 
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:57 PM 03/19/13
              so 4 weeks from march 11th is april 8th
              
              mamaof4  7:57 PM 03/19/13
              thats exactly what i was told and i have no education credits
              
              Deonna Gardea 7:57 PM 03/19/13
              but he also said it can come sooner, he said max time is 4 weeks, i really dont know what to beleive, but all the diffrent dates i was given, he matched them up to proccesses, 
              
              mamaof4  7:58 PM 03/19/13
              what does your wmr say?
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  7:59 PM 03/19/13
              well i was out of errors on March 4th, so des that mean I dshould have mine next week?>
              
              TiredOfWaiting8863  8:00 PM 03/19/13
              i was told max time is 9 weeks and to expect money end of april
              
              mamaof4  8:01 PM 03/19/13
              Tired did they say you were back processing normally?
              
              Deonna Gardea 8:03 PM 03/19/13
              he said i was in normal processesing, but on WMR i show no change, 
              
              Deonna Gardea 8:03 PM 03/19/13
              i can see my amount and just generic message, only change i have seen is on HRB website where they changed my accepted date from Feb 15th to March 16 to March 18
              
              mamaof4  8:04 PM 03/19/13
              mine changed back to the orange bar
              
              mamaof4  8:05 PM 03/19/13
              which i had another issue because i dont have education
              
              Deonna Gardea 8:05 PM 03/19/13
              mine was all due to educaiton, i almost filed with out it cause i didnt want to wait but it was 1500 more bucks so i thought i i can wait a week and a half for the 1500, it would help pay school loans, 
              
              Deonna Gardea 8:06 PM 03/19/13
              yea that is what i get i guess for being greedy, i dont know, 
              
              mamaof4  8:07 PM 03/19/13
              i do have education credits but i didnt file them and i will amend when all of this is over with
              
              Deonna Gardea 8:13 PM 03/19/13
              if i knew i could just do an ammendment i probl would have just done that, turns out after all this is over i have to do an ammendement anyways my morgage statement was wrong
              
              mamaof4  8:16 PM 03/19/13
              hopefully all of this will be better one day

               

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                wnosma  6:29 PM 03/19/13
                Ok, so I just ordered my return transcript! does that mean my return has been processed?
                
                BartD  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                bart is here
                
                BartD  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                lol to i get a bat symbol
                
                wnosma  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                well hello! 
                
                wnosma  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                ok, so i just ordered my return transcript. today's the first day i was able to. does that mean i've been processed?
                
                wnosma  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                you should!
                
                wnosma  6:30 PM 03/19/13
                 : )
                
                BartD  6:31 PM 03/19/13
                yeah through stage 1 so if the risk check is completed i would call the irs now and see if you have a DD u just miht have one
                
                wnosma  6:39 PM 03/19/13
                SAWEEEEET! I've been on hold for 40 min trying to reach my TA.
                
                wnosma  6:39 PM 03/19/13
                how do i know if the risk check is completed?
                
                BartD  6:39 PM 03/19/13
                u will habe the DD
                
                Crystal Long 6:43 PM 03/19/13
                That wrench has a hold stamped into it with a machine from 1956, this machine is huge and obviously very very old. They could update that machine, however it wouldn't be financially worth it. Plus, that machine no longer has any depreciation cost and runs perfectly fine.
                
                Crystal Long 6:44 PM 03/19/13
                I so did not just write that. Weird
                
                wnosma  6:47 PM 03/19/13
                ha. good one!
                
                wnosma  6:48 PM 03/19/13
                Bart, can i get the information from a general representative?
                
                thickskint  7:19 PM 03/19/13
                bart...how long does eic reviews take. i have no educ credit so im assuming thats why im under review

                 

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