Reply To: Received a 4464c letter? Gotten a DDD yet?

[2013taxpayer]

1/28 – filed
1/28 – accepted 11 hrs later from filing
1/30 – around 10pm finally got a status on wmr with ‘Return Received’ (1 bar) & still processing
1/31 – ordered acct transcript but couldn’t order return transcript
2/6 – received acct transcript & 4464 c letter (dated 2/4) & has no code on it whatsoever. it had no action required. wmr still the same.
2/14 – wmr had no status bar but still the same msg w/return received.
2/16 – wmr still had no bar but msg changed to Your tax return is still being processed. A refund date will be provided when available. i ordered another acct transcript to see if i get any codes because my transcript had nothing on it…it was blank w/a as of date of 2/18th.
2/18 – wmr still the same…no status bar w/msg. i still can’t order a return transcript.
2/19 – wmr still the same (no bars since 2/16). i still can’t order a return transcript.
2/21 – got acct transcript that was ordered on 2/16 Pic of acct transcript – totally blank just like the first one. exact same thing as the first one. only diff was the as of date. first one was 2/18 & this one is 3/04.
2/22 – Pic of WMR as of today (since 2/16)
Pic when trying to order return transcript – still can’t order a return transcript.
2/28 – WMR/hotline is still the same.

[Jamie]

I am a fellow 4464c. It has nothing to do with the education credit. People with the bad education 8863 filings are receiving cp 05. The 4464c is generated by the IRS verification and integrity operations office, IVO for short. It used to be called Amtap (shortened name). It is a system that they’ve set up to detect fraudulent returns. More than likely, they will be calling our employers to confirm the numbers that we are claiming. if the employer doesn’t reply, or doesn’t want to tell them over the phone, then they’ll have to wait until they receive our w2 information, which will happen in the summer. There is something in our returns that flagged our return. For some people, they may increase the amount of the withholding in order to receive a higher refund. It could be your education credit and they will be calling your school to confirm. Maybe you claimed medical expenses, charity, etc and the numbers are a little too high for someone with your income. It could be something as simple as claiming an older child who you haven’t claimed for.

In my situation, I made a lot of money as an independent contractor, as well as worked and went to school. My 1099 amount almost tripled, so they may be looking into the deductions I made as far as car, phone, etc.

Don’t meant to scare you, but I found a man on facebook who received the letter feb 8th and received another letter yesterday claiming that upon further review of his return, they looked at the past 4 years as well and say that he owes $6,700. I also found people on facebook from last year who received them during the tax season and were still waiting for their refund in the summer. I will keep you guys updated as I hear more. I have not received the letter but I was told that it was sent out on Monday. I believe the bath of general IRS letters go out once a week.

I will keep updating this page as I find information because it is extremely hard to find information on the 4464c letter online. The IRS doesn’t even list it on their website.