Updates on 16th 17th 18th

[wilson]

Well I guess we will wait awhile longer..An irs press release from yesturday states that updates will be 16th 17th 18th, this is some bs..

The press release is on this irs site under the news tab..

wilson

[GG]

I came across this site last week as I am anxiously awaiting my refund like most of you. Return filed and accepted on 1/25, EIC credit. Gotta say this whole PATH issue has been frustrating. I understand it’s to prevent fraud but considering they had so long to prepare for this, I don’t see why they could not have had some sort of notification on WMR to still show some status in the processing stage.

And then the last minute press updates pushing WMR udates farther. I mean after all, the one thing that could be easily answered is whether or not the return has been processed.

Was hoping to at least get an idea of that by tomorrow but now who knows :(

[JOVI]

Also just to let you know I filed on 1/21 accepted 1/23 got PATH on 1/24 it has been the same since. I have a cycle date of 20170403. have no idea what that means lol but I am processed and ready to be released tomorrow.

[JOVI]

Just got off the phone with the IRS my return is processed and set to be released tomorrow. No ddd yet but the nice lady assured me that it will be released tomorrow. Also she said No one on the PATH Act will have an 846 (I think that is the release code) until tomorrow. I understand I may not have my money tomorrow but I am being released tomorrow.

[The Other Kat]

I feel like that just means yours is done. Doesn’t really have any reflection on other people with offsets.

[schmidtkids]

And if anybody has any ideas, if I messed up my 2015 taxes does that mean they won’t take it until next year??? Not that I did but don’t understand why they are waiting until now for 2014 tax year

[schmidtkids]

Well posted this in the wrong thread so doing it again here

I don’t know if this helps anybody, I called IRS today because I owe taxes from 2014 which makes no sense why they didn’t take it last year………..anyways they said my refund is done but the offset hasn’t been applied yet so at least for those that don’t have an offset we know the refunds are done.

[Tom]

My previous post is not exactly what I wanted to say… lol.

What I wanted to say is, he probably knows the reasoning too and is bitter. And rightfully so, I would be as well. It sucks having people play with your money.

Not sure what is wrong with my phone, but not everything I am typing it coming out correctly.

[Tom]

I know the reasoning, just bitter… lol

Also, criminals will just find a way to be better criminals… no law is going to stop that.

[wilson]

@am88 I think your guess is in the ballpark… I figure that they will under promise and over deliver, that doesn’t stop my bewilderment at these daily ,last minute, on going press releases..

.we are in uncharted water here..

[AM88]

@Blah

Their reasoning behind the Feb 15th date was because 90% of people owed a refund file before 2/10 (I believe that is the date, IIRC).

So, it will be easier for them to catch fraudulent (ID theft) returns if they have 90% of refundable returns in before releasing funds. That way, the fraudsters cant file super early and have the money back before the person even files. Compound that with the fact that employers have to electronically submit W-2’s before 1/31, and BOOM! There is 2 of the 3 most common fraud tactics knocked out, for the most part.

I understand their reasoning behind it, but I don’t have to like it. I have filed the same year in and year out. Same job, same kids, same everything. IMHO, they SHOULD release returns once they cross reference your W-2. You file, then it should be put into a holding pattern, then once your employer submits the W-2, they cross reference and once it all checks out, they release yours for DDD.

[AM88]

@Gl

Ya, I am sorry, but never has it taken that long for an ACH to transit and process through a bank. IF they really start releasing on the 15th, like they originally said, people with prepaid or banks without holds will see their money A LOT earlier.

HOWEVER, I can see that happening with people who get their funds released on the 17th or 22nd. IF AND ONLY IF their bank holds funds for 3-4 business day. If they release on the 17th, then the money gets sent, bank receives it the 21st (because Monday is a holiday), then they hold it for 4 business days, then they are closed on the weekends, then it turns into Monday the 27th. That is VERY rare though.

They should say “Most people should expect to see their refunds some time between the 15th-27th based on holidays, weekends, and bank policies.”

Now, based on this rewording, I am going to stick to my original statement and say that they are using this as a safety net, to not have the phones blow up, and MOST of us will see our money sometime this week or next. They will most likely release funds in batches based off of when the return was filed (i.e. Batch 1= 1/1-1/22, Batch 2= 1/23-1/31, etc.) and that Batch 2 or 3 probably wont be sent until 2/22, which could put some people to Monday the 27th. If they are smart, they will release Batch 1 on 2/15, Batch 2 on 2/17 and Batch 3 on 2/22… However I could also see them doing Batch 1 on 2/17, Batch 2 on 2/22 and Batch 3 on 2/24.

[Blah]

Who really cares who’s wrong or who’s right? The fact is, all of us who got held up with PATH are not getting our returns treated like everyone else. You mean to tell me that fraud only happens before February 15th and only with those claiming EITC and ACTC? I’m calling their bluff there.

[Gi]

@AM88 That’s the part that really gets me. Are you honestly telling us that banks will take almost two weeks to release our funds? Gimme a break! That’s some Conway-level BS.

[AM88]

@tom

it is interesting the IRS updated their press release from yesterday to now say WMR will update the 18th and that some MAY see a different message or updates before then. Also, the other rewording clearly says that they didn’t mean people WONT get their returns before the 27th, just don’t EXPECT it before then, but not because of them, because of your bank. Don’t ever blame the IRS. Ever. LOL..

Now with this rewording, I’m not questioning my original statement, that some people may start to see money this week, anymore.

[Jennifer Echols]

@ Sarah

Yet you have the TIME to be on here talking down to others? Smh….. WOW⏳⏳⏳🤔🤔🤔🤔

[Kris]

@Wilson….this whole thing is absurd. It’s 2017, not 1977. Everything is electronic. There is no reason for delays or “processing time”. I can deposit a check with my damn phone. How is it that the Federal government can’t release funds in a timely manner???

[wilson]

that’s what I’m po ed about right there kris.. don’t you just love there wording ” SOME taxpayers MAY see a PROJECTED date or a MESSAGE that the irs is PROCESSING there return” wait a f’n min.. The law doesn’t stand in the way of F’n processing anything nor does it prevent the irs from issuing a DDD, it says that they CANT RELEASE refund money until the 15th.. This is one big cluster..
The WEEK OF THE 27TH? Theres 28 days in feb and since Monday is the 27th and march starts wed I guess they are scared af to say the word march..i don’t even know..sorry for the rant, can you tell I’m bitter…

wilson

[Kris]

Via IRS Newswire

“Where’s My Refund?” will be updated Feb. 18 for the vast majority of early filers who claimed the Earned Income Tax Credit or the Additional Child Tax Credit. Before Feb. 18, some taxpayers may see a projected date or a message that the IRS is processing their return.
By law, the IRS is required to hold EITC and ACTC refunds until Feb. 15. However, taxpayers may not see those refunds until the week of Feb. 27. Due to differing timeframes with financial institutions, weekends and the Presidents Day holiday, these refunds likely will not start arriving in bank accounts or on debit cards until the week of Feb. 27 — if there are no processing issues with the tax return and the taxpayer chose direct deposit.
The IRS phone assistors do not have additional information on refund dates beyond what taxpayers have access to on “Where’s My Refund?”. Given high call volumes, taxpayers should not call unless directed to do so by the refund tool. In addition, a common myth is that people can get their refund date earlier by ordering a tax transcript. There is no such “secret” option to find a refund date by calling the IRS or ordering a transcript; just check “Where’s My Refund?” once a day.

[AM88]

@`Dan

LOL.. That is how I feel about this tax season..

“We wants it. We needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little Hobbitses. Wicked. Tricksy. False.”

“The thieves. The thieves. The filthy little thieves. Where is it?
Where is it? They stole it from us. My precious. Curse them, we hates them! It’s ours, it is, and we wants it!”

[pookie1971]

There’s gonna be a whole lot of disappointed people when money doesn’t start dropping until next week.

I’m certainly not expecting mine before the 22nd. That’s actually the day it should hit my account.

[gsk158]

@Laura

Haha was about to read but then i saw your post at the top

[Laura]

Don’t even bother scrolling through this thread. Just people arguing about who is right, yada, yada, yada…….

[Gi]

“THEY NEVER GETS IT!”
— The IRS

[`Dan]

@Kaylee That’s because funds haven’t been released yet. You can’t have a pending deposit without funds to disperse. Earliest they CAN release funds is the 15th, because terrible new laws and such.

Here’s the issue. Honestly, NOBODY knows what the deal is with PATH…only that it’s awful, abhorrent, and we hates it even more than those sneaksy Hobbits’s *COUGH* gollum, gollum *cough*

MY OPINION is that EARLY FILERS will have funds RELEASED and DISPERSED tomorrow, and depending on your FINANCIAL INSTITUTION you MAY very well SEE some monies.

[Kaylee]

I doubt anyone will see money tomorrow. My return seems to have been processing for a while now and I have a processing date of 2/13/2017 cycle date 20170405. My bank always notifies me when they receive a message to prepare for a deposit and I still have yet to receive that message yet. The only one that’s been pending for deposit since Monday is my paycheck on Thursday.

[Grady]

You are right tom they will start releasing PATH filers starting the 15 that’s what the irs told me today when I called

[`Dan]

@Sarah They certainly could have done this better. Would’ve been nice if they could’ve just put #MeCashAside

[Sarah]

LOL Okay good. I see that enough on my facebook. Def don’t need to see that here. I as well as Tom come off harsh so I get it. I apologize I just wish the IRS would just have a set timetable again like the past but because this is the first year everyone’s emotions and opinions are flying high.

[`Dan]

@Sarah One thing I AM positive of is that you’re not alone in your opinion there. I don’t need an apology for that, of all things, lol.

[Sarah]

Trying to juggle work and the thread lol.

[Sarah]

Unless that’s someone’s name, please don’t tell me that’s someones username. If sorry I apologize Dan. I just can not stand that saying nor the female that says that.

[Sarah]

That comment finally showed up, Tom that was a double dip. I posted that second one over an hour ago. Also Dan, then good we will see tomorrow. Also very juvenile to repeat that idiotic saying, don’t you think?

[Tom]

…and they might very well not see it tomorrow. I’m not going to revisit this over and over. As my opinion was based of the idea that there is absolutely no excuse that they can’t get people their refunds for the 15th. Because, really, there isn’t.

I’ve also said that I thought the next couple days after would be a much better bet.

[`Dan]

@Sarah – Confirmation from multiple people that Republic Bank is releasing funds tomorrow. If they don’t see funds, it’s because of their institution, not Uncle Sam. Go check out the thread, the confirmation are trickling in. @HowBoutDat

Michele Decker:
Good news. I just talked to Ben in KY. At republic bank. He sees my refund and for release tomorrow. It does not show on website due to Path Act.

[Sarah]

Tom I’m sorry you are wrong. I don’t think anyone will see money tomorrow, minus those who did not file with ACTC and EITC. I have been told by multiple agents. This is my job.

[Tom]

Great! That being said, I am not here to piss anyone off or to start fights. But with that being said, I am not going to bow before anyone either. My opinions are just that, my opinions… No one has to agree, and if I feel better information comes along that is reliable, then my opinion would change. But so far, I have not seen anything reliable to otherwise change my original opinion.

@Sarah, it’s water under the bridge… I appreciate you actually had this conversation with me and you didn’t just fire and run away.. I admit, I come off as brash… but it is what it is. I type very to the point, however, I’m actually pretty respectful in person… go figure.

[Sarah]

I can respect that and agree.

[Tom]

I wasn’t closed off to ant of it… I’m unsure how you can tell that on the internet. I read everything, and I might even research something if I am unsure… however, if I still feel strongly about something, I’m not going roll over. Especially when I never said I was 100% sure that anything was going to happen. There wasn’t a need to roll, as technically, in this stage of the game, I’m not incorrect… yet.

I still stand behind the assumptions I made, and I am 100% aware I could be wrong… and I will deal with that when the time comes and I am actually wrong. I am not going to admit defeat when the fight is still in progress.

[Sarah]

Also the part of Tom’s refund I was confusing him with Michael so I apologize I was wrong. Michael who’s comments have disappeared was with Tom in one thread who was insisting on getting his money on the 15th.

[Sarah]

@Tom of course they are but when people are closed off to others information it’s not a conversation nor debate. It’s one sided.

[`Dan]

@Sarah Assumptions for everyone! If you’re entitled, I am as well. It’ll all be okay Sarah!

[Tom]

Unlike some people here, my feelings are unaffected by what someone on the internet says.

This is a “grapevine” forum, I thought ideas and debate were welcomed…

[WillBeas]

He has sac jockeys @Sarah

[Sarah]

Actually I never complain to managers because I don’t really go into stores. I work 60 hours a week with my job. I don’t have time for that. And I think it’s hilarious you just insulted me instead of just disagreeing. Assuming things about me that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. And the last response from Tom I agree with and he said it politely. That’s all that had to happen. There is no reason to get nasty at all. Including you, Dan.

[Can we all just get along?]

@Sarah…If you know all these facts about Tom then you would have seen he posted he isn’t affected by PATH and already got his refund. Tom is a human being, a person, with feelings like all of us are. When you judge someone elses behavior, you are actually judging something you see in your self that is out of harmony with your true self. Bagging on Tom or any other person will not make you feel better in the long run or get a refund faster.
As for me, I got love for you, Tom, the IRS and everything and everyone else as we are all just shards of the shattered mirror of All That Is.

K I’m done…lol

[`Dan]

@Sarah Speaking of condescending…I’d bet my return that you walk into every retail store you visit asking to speak to a manager and complain each time you sit down for a meal. Fact of the matter is, nobody knows. All you’re offering is hearsay or interpretation, nobody has the facts, including you and Tom. Best guesses and educated theories is what we’re working on. yourself included. Correcting the same handful of individuals spreading false information or rumors is a fairly crappy position to be in, but it’s done, and the vast majority of us appreciate @Tom ‘s efforts. If you don’t, that fine…but don’t claim condescension through admitted ignorance and more of the same. Makes you come off as a triggered Mother of 3 being vetted by a support group to attack anything with male genitalia.

[Tom]

As far as seeing my money… lol. I already got mine… no credits…

[WillBeas]

@Sarah, I second that as far as anyone not agreeing with his assuming, thinking or guessing…not here to argue just stating what I’ve witnessed over the last 12 days

[Tom]

Again, I never said people would in fact get their money on the 15th. Actually, I’ve been saying the contrary. I said it was “possible” if the processing dates on transcripts were accurate. I really tried to stay out of that mess, all I was sure of was that no one was getting BEFORE the 15th. I also stated getting it even then was up to a lot of variables.

Was I more confident then than I was now? Yeah, that new press release put a lot of questions in mind. Do I still think it is possible to get your money the 15th? Yes… but I am not saying anyone will.

[Sarah]

No I know for a fact Tom has told me people they are in fact getting money on the 15th. When I also work in the industry and file plenty tax returns a day as well as speak to the agents as part of my job. I work for a nationwide firm. It’s highly unlikely anyone will see money tomorrow. HIGHLY. The 17th and beyond is more likely. As I’ve been told by agents and personal speaking with my own return. Tom is not open to anyone’s interpretations nor information. I’ve been watching on this thread since day one and he answers in a condescending way and is pretty rude to those that don’t agree with him. He thinks he will see his money tomorrow, I’m just waiting him to realize he won’t. I always admit when I’m wrong it’s really not hard to do that or be polite.

[Tom]

@AM88

Thank you! I am just forming educated guesses and opinions based on logic from the past. I very carefully use words like “think”, “assume”, “guess” and “perhaps” in areas I have a pretty good idea what COULD happen… but never made the guarantee it would.

I appreciate that you actually pay attention to what I’ve been saying, whether we agree or not, that speaks volumes to your character! The fact alone that I am familiar with your username, but do not cringe when I see it shows that you have conducted yourself as a respectful adult, and I respect that even though we do not always agree. Thanks again!

[AM88]

I have agreed with a lot of things @tom has said… Annnddd I have disagreed with some things @tom has said.. He has also agreed/disagreed with things that I have said.. But never once did he claim it as pure fact. It was always presented as opinion and hypothesis with a clear understanding that he did not know for certain one way or the other. The only thing he has actually said he knows for sure is that nobody is getting money before the 15th.

[Tom]

@Tyler

Have I? Because I’m pretty damn sure I’ve been saying no one was going to see money BEFORE the 15th… Well, so far, no one has… That has been the ONLY thing I said I was certain about… I think you better go back and re-read my posts my friend… Everything else, I was clear when I stated they were guesses and speculation based on other years. NO ONE can predict the PATH Act sequence as this is the first year for it.

So please, tell me again where I have been false…

[Tyler]

Tom has been false with everything he has said. Do not trust that man at all

[Tom]

I’m not even sure what to expect from the IRS this year… I really feel for you guys who got caught up in this PATH nonsense…

However, if history serves as any guide, I still think they will be moving money around starting tomorrow… This newest press release seems to be them getting out ahead of any possible issues. No one at the IRS wants to be answering phone calls from angry and dejected people wanting to know where the hell their money is.

That being said, it IS the IRS, so who knows.

[`Dan]

Meh, that’s just MWR updating. I’m still pretty confident I’ll see my cash tomorrow. MWR is notorious for updating after the fact. Not a “hopeful” type thing, I don’t mind waiting…just makes sense as an early filer.

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