Looks to me like path freeze ends at 12:01 Feb 15.

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    Meeya

      Per IRS manual https://www.irs.gov/irm/part21/irm_21-005-006r#idm139685497100736

      21.5.6.4.5.1 (12-20-2016)
      C- Freeze – Refund Holds
      The Protecting Americans from Tax Hikes Act of 2015 (the PATH Act), was enacted on December 18, 2015. The PATH Act contains several changes to the tax law that affect individuals, families, and businesses, and help safeguard against tax fraud. The PATH Act mandates that the IRS not issue any refund on tax returns claiming the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) or Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) until February 15th.
      All current year tax returns that claim EITC and/or ACTC filed before February 15th, will contain a C- freeze on the account, to hold the refund.
      Prior to February 15th, the refund cannot be released:
      by inputting any type of adjustment to the account
      due to a hardship (hardships will not be considered as long as the C- freeze is on the account). This includes the part of the refund that is not associated with the EITC or ACTC.
      The C- freezes will be systemically released on February 15th. Refer to IRM 21.4.1.4, Refund Inquiry Response Procedures, and IRM 21.4.1.4.2, Return/Refund Located, for additional information.

      This is why all the reps are informing callers the freeze ends on 15. I believe those pathers who have already been processed and are only waiting on 846 release code may well see that Friday the 15th.
      Only speculation. What do you think?

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      • #4280114
        The Sensible Guy

          Well shit, I filed on 1/9 with both child credits and was accepted according to TurboTax site on 1/14. When I checked WMR this morning it still says “we have received your refund and it is being processed”. If it goes from the date you were accepted, I’m sitting at 35 days if you count every day.

        • #4279944
          Tracy

            So we filed our taxes an was accepted on same day Jan 30 so when should we expect our refund we filed the eict and the other tomorrow will be our 21 days

          • #4272757
            Sarah

              Other forums are saying they now have 846 code on their transcripts and PATH is gone but no DDD on WMR yet.. Check ur transcripts if u can!

            • #4272742
              Shanika

                Ok update: it went from recieved by the IRS on 1/28 to accepted 1/29 to PATH ACT 2/5 to saying your refund is now being processed 2/16

              • #4271746
                J B

                  Hopefully everyone with EITC and ACTC update on Tuesday, if not beforehand.

                  Been a PATHer since the beginning and usually receive DD on 2/22 or 2/23…regardless on cycle code or Processing date…it doesnt mean anything when you are a PATHer.

                  filed 1/17/19
                  Accepted 1/22/19
                  PATH since 1/25/19
                  Transcripts available 2/1/19

                  Transcript info:
                  Cycle 20190405
                  Processing 2/11/19

                  No 846 yet (obviously)

                  Hopefully those that filed on/before 01/28/19 received their state refund to help tie over until Fed arrives.

                  The great news with FED is that your deposit is usually available on that date.

                  Good luck everyone!

                • #4271722
                  Felicia Marie Mailand

                    I talked to a lady at the irs she told me no matter if your under 21 days they are no allowed to look at returns this year. But she did tell me processing does start today for most she said some ppl can undate tonight. I told her i never got the path and she said some didnt some did she said starting on the 19th ppl can call about there returns.

                  • #4271691
                    Dead daddy boi

                      Well looks like you where wrong.

                    • #4271682
                      Felicia Marie Mailand

                        Ok one more question for ppl. Does your transcripts update first or wmr.?. Like i said i filed on 2/2/19 and still my transcripts are blank. Like i said i still have 1 bar and im a pather but no path message

                      • #4271674
                        Felicia Marie Mailand

                          I domt know anymore hopefully they looked at my return atleast. Id be happy just for that. Who knows whats going on

                        • #4271671
                          Shanika

                            Mines still saying the PATH ACT and it’s Feburary 15 😭😭😭

                          • #4271642
                            Nada

                              I have seen people who said they never received path on WMR last year and they just updated to approved. Sadly no one is seeing any 846 codes even with path.

                            • #4271628
                              Felicia Marie Mailand

                                Ok then what happens if you never got the path but should of. I filed 2/2/19 and still 1 bar. Ppl are freaking out because they proally think they are gunna have a gard time like last year.

                              • #4271248
                                Aaron

                                  The path freeze did lift today. But you won’t see an update until tomorrow. Why can’t you people understand that?

                                • #4271200
                                  Jonathan Leissler

                                    So people need to stop freaking out. Yes today is the 15th. Transcripts and WMR update nightly during over night processing. They reflect any changes or work done by the IRS the previous business day. So for transcripts it is work done on the 14th. WMR updates based on the transcripts. Depending when your transcript gets updated and when WMR runs, it’ll either show updates the same morning or a day later. Since the freeze isn’t removed until the 15th (today), the earliest anyone would see any movement on their transcripts would be the 16th. The IRS resync’d folks cycle processing based on the amount of returns and the limits on the system for these type of holds. So a lot of people have processing of 2/18 and then 2/25 or so. They’ll be done in batches. IRS recognizes a week for processing as Saturday-Friday. So the processing date of the 18th would effectively start the 15th or 16th. Expect to see DDD dates for end of next week to begin to show this weekend or Tuesday.

                                  • #4271186
                                    Steven

                                      We still have until the 27th this sucks

                                    • #4271030
                                      Rebecca

                                        WMR still has no updates for me. I’m unable to get transcripts unless I request them via mail, which I did last week and they still haven’t arrived yet.

                                      • #4271020
                                        redacted B

                                          This was fake news lol

                                        • #4271012
                                          Jerry Hutchens

                                            Well it is the 15th of February and still shows under a path act. So didn’t hold true.

                                          • #4270613
                                            Joshua

                                              @andwemadeit you said the same thing on FB about these forums. Lol

                                            • #4270611
                                              And we made it

                                                Ppl on igmr fb are posting 846 updates. Idk if it’s true but I hope

                                              • #4270583
                                                KayAz87

                                                  WMR will update after 6am ET. Check then for path to be lifted

                                                • #4270580
                                                  Christian
                                                    @trickson

                                                    I got nothing from this update. Same blank transcript with Feb 18th processing date.

                                                  • #4270579
                                                    redacted B

                                                      Looks like your theory was very wrong.

                                                    • #4270578
                                                      Felicia Marie Mailand

                                                        Im still on 1 bar and im a pather i never got that yet so when i looked at my transcripts it has no return on file and i filed on 2/2/19

                                                      • #4269178
                                                        Renee Pather

                                                          So I check my email for the pst two years since the new law and I have gotten both tax refund year 17 and 18 on Feb 17…anyways since the 17th is on a Sunday this year that is the only reason I can see Pathers will get their deposit next week….This week is for those who have no path message plus they are behind like always…Side note: Thank God no who has taken my info(Thank You Jesus)…..The anticipation is very real. But I’m grateful. See you guys next year.

                                                        • #4269156
                                                          barf bag barry

                                                            19th not 17th.

                                                          • #4269155
                                                            barf bag barry

                                                              For the past two years my return got processed twice and I filled early on both occasions. So i believe its pretty safe to assume that they will wait until after the 15th to process individuals affected by PATH. For instance I filed on the 14th of January and was accepted the 26th however after the PATH was lifted it was reprocessed on FEB 17th.

                                                            • #4269154
                                                              Justme82

                                                                Yes, the same thing happened last year. On 2/15/18 transcripts update and the 846 code will be added with the deposit date. WMR will update the next day(2/16) with the deposit date since it is a day behind. You may not see it a 12:01am on the dot. If you check forums from last year everyone was posting about the transcript update on 2/15

                                                              • #4269141
                                                                Meeya

                                                                  Definitely been a crazy tax season so far.

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                                                                  redacted B

                                                                    That does indeed make perfect sense. However it is only speculation. I do hope you’re correct though! There’s more folks on this forum with either 9001 holds or 1541 delays and ID verify issues than anything else this year. Never seen anything like this!

                                                                  • #4269131
                                                                    Meeya

                                                                      That is my thinking. I believe after reading this it is a reasonable assumption. The freeze is systematically lifted on and not after Feb 15. Only speculation though.

                                                                    • #4269119
                                                                      Starks

                                                                        Does being able to see your transcripts now with all the credits and no bad codes means it’s processed already? It does it get processed again on the 15th?

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