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    Ok here is a place to combine info and compare info on filing with form 8863…Here is the Irs Offical Info.

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    IRS form that 1040 filers can begin filing in mid-February

    Taxpayers using this form can begin filing their tax returns in mid-February after the IRS updates its processing systems.

    Form 8863 Education Credits

    List of IRS forms that 1040 filers can begin filing in late February or into March 2013

    The following tax forms will be accepted by the IRS in late February or into March after updating forms and completing programming and testing of its processing systems. A specific date will be announced in the near future.

    Form 3800 General Business Credit
    Form 4136 Credit for Federal Tax Paid on Fuels
    Form 4562 Depreciation and Amortization (Including Information on Listed Property)
    Form 5074 Allocation of Individual Income Tax to Guam or the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
    Form 5471 Information Return of U.S. Persons With Respect to Certain Foreign Corporations
    Form 5695 Residential Energy Credits
    Form 5735 American Samoa Economic Development Credit
    Form 5884 Work Opportunity Credit
    Form 6478 Credit for Alcohol Used as Fuel
    Form 6765 Credit for Increasing Research Activities
    Form 8396 Mortgage Interest Credit
    Form 8582 Passive Activity Loss Limitations
    Form 8820 Orphan Drug Credit
    Form 8834 Qualified Plug-in Electric and Electric Vehicle Credit
    Form 8839 Qualified Adoption Expenses
    Form 8844 Empowerment Zone and Renewal Community Employment Credit
    Form 8845 Indian Employment Credit
    Form 8859 District of Columbia First-Time Homebuyer Credit
    Form 8864 Biodiesel and Renewable Diesel Fuels Credit
    Form 8874 New Markets Credits
    Form 8900 Qualified Railroad Track Maintenance Credit
    Form 8903 Domestic Production Activities Deduction
    Form 8908 Energy Efficient Home Credit
    Form 8909 Energy Efficient Appliance Credit
    Form 8910 Alternative Motor Vehicle Credit
    Form 8911 Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Property Credit
    Form 8912 Credit to Holders of Tax Credit Bonds
    Form 8923 Mine Rescue Team Training Credit
    Form 8932 Credit for Employer Differential Wage Payments
    Form 8936 Qualified Plug-in Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit

    Please add any additional info and compare info on this subject but please provide a link to where your info is coming from, fact checking is a big part of the puzzle:)

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  • #5651 Reply

    I have had the same issues with different stories. I cant get a straight answer from anyone. I spooke with the IRS today and they said they dont even have my tax return that i filed on 1-30-13. Then I spoke with Turbo Tax and the lady was a complete idiot and wanted to tell me that the return was pending in their system…which I already knew. She could not tell me if the IRS has actually recieved my return or not even though when i chatted online with a turbo tax agent they told me the IRS had indeed received it. So I dont know if Turbo Tax is just holding the returns or if the IRS just wont tell you that they have received it because they can not process it. I was also told that it is still Mid Feb for the processing but she would not tell me anymore than that.

    #5641 Reply

    Food For Thought?? Something I posted on FB, “I Got My Refund Page.” Comments????

    I am a fellow 8863’r. I filed with turbo tax on the 21rst, and was accepted on the 25th. I finally broke down and called the IRS myself today. The lady I had was extremely cordial. However, she mentioned that tax returns that include 8863 might not be processed until LATE FEBRUARY OR EARLY MARCH. I wanted to cry. I know that all the reps from the IRS are giving us all different stories, but just wanted to share mine!

    I wanted to add one more thing…Like many of you, I decided to file as soon as I received my tax information. Largely I did this because Turbo Tax reassured me that by filing early, I would be the, “first in line to get my refund faster.” When speaking to the IRS rep, I told her that had I known about the 8863 form delay, I would have opted to leave it out since it did not effect my refund by a huge amount. This IRS lady told me that they informed ALL TAX PREPARERS about allowing customers to file early because of the end of the year fiasco. As you all recall, the form was delayed on the 28th. Had I waited until the 30th, opening day, I would not be in this mess. She specifically told me that all of the “big name” tax preparation companies were informed of this. So, I, myself, hold Turbo Tax partly responsible. Last year, I remember that a number of early filers were delayed as well. This will not happen again next year. I will wait until a day or two after opening. Even if it means I wait a week, its certainly better than waiting for a month and a half.

    And just one more final thought….A number of people have commented that it is common knowledge for the IRS to, “accept a few returns early to test their software.” When I filed our taxes, I was told by turbo tax that OUR refund would be submitted to the IRS on the 30th, the first day the IRS was starting to accept refunds. Never in any fine print did I notice anything about authorizing them to submit my return early in order to be a, “test subject.” Again, the news of the 8863 was announced on the 28th. Had TT waited until the 30th to submit our returns, I could have possibly called them and perhaps did something about omitting that form. It was my understanding that even though I filed on the 21rst, my return would be HELD by TT until the IRS began accepting returns. I don’t know about you all, but I think of tax time as my Christmas! I patiently count down the days until tax time as it is the one time of year I am able to splurge on something nice for our family. I would not have CHOSEN to roll the dice basically and be a test subject, especially knowing about the financial cliff crap at the end of the year.

    #5630 Reply

    I know I was accepted on Jan 26th and I am still stuck with one bar on the wmr site. Does anyone still get that red box on SBBT when you login? Any new news would be appreciated.

    #5628 Reply

    I am so tired of waiting for no news, please someone post some good news today

    #5610 Reply

    Anyone get any updates ? So frustrated. Every year they have issues and have to hold returns up for one reason or another. How about getting all your ducks in a row and having everything good to go by January 15th every year. If congress makes changes, they should have to wait until the following year.. good or bad.

    #5503 Reply

    IRS Calls from Feb 4, 2013:

    IRS Agent name: Dennis Ragen (call 1)
    badge number: 2627475
    Aren’t processing until mid Feb. Don’t need to take addition action at this time. Wouldn’t give any information about return at all.

    IRS Agent Name: Mrs. Rickman (call 2)
    Badge #: 0584322
    Told them I wanted to confirm banking information.
    Accepted 1/24:
    Normal processing time is 3 weeks. If nothing, has to adhere to that time frame. *bunch of bull*
    Do have return, is being processed, refund is $1707.
    What they have on the 8863 issues: if the IRS received before Jan 27, will hold until mid Feb. even though they are “processing” they aren’t really processing. Apparently any dates given (2/7, 2/11 or 2/15) weren’t given by her, and as such, she can’t answer why they are being given out.

    #5488 Reply

    Did they explain projected date to you? The lady I spoke to last week that told me projected date could not tell me if that’s when it will start processing, finish processing or DD.

    #5477 Reply

    Club 8863
    2 minutes ago
    I just got off the phone with the IRS and they stated I have a projected date of the 11th for a refund. Lets see how true that is, hope so. If you call the IRS do not tell them that you filed the 8863. And when they ask you to chek online, tell them you cant get on, and they will review your file and let you know what is your projected date. Good Luck everyone!
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    #5468 Reply

    Nope not for me

    #5466 Reply

    Any good news this morning?

    #4913 Reply

    Ok. The WMR says still processing??? Refund Hotline still processing. Mine is going straight to my personal bank. I called the number under contacts with ext 362. I was seriously so shocked. I had been so upset all week because of the IRS and then my school told me my finacial was being held for Pell review two days before disbursement. Just pray. I have been praying my head off so my husband said God had to do something because I was clogging up all his incoming lines LOL.

    #4911 Reply

    brandy what number did you call?

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    #4902 Reply

    Brandy – Since you have a DD date for 2/6; what does WMR say? Also, what does the refund hotline tell you? Mine still says ACCEPTED since 1/25/13! Frustrated!!!!

    #4900 Reply

    Just wanted to let the 8863er my situation. I filed w/ TaxAct and accepted 1/26. Been trying to order return transcript all week but nothing. Magically I could today. I called, needing info about back federal tax offset. Rep confirmed processing, DD 2/6. She said they were sending a few through at a time. I bet I asked ten times if it really said a deposit date and she keep reassuring me. Have three students in the house so I was sure mine would be held up. Just thought it might ease nerves. I have been a nervous wreck all week.

    #4896 Reply

    Filed: 1/24
    Accepted: 1/26
    Service: Turbo Tax (w/ fees taken out of refund)
    Status: Processing

    I will be sure to update if this info changes. I hope we hear something soon.

    #4867 Reply

    I filed on 1/26 with TT (8863 of COURSE!) And its still just sitting there pending.

    #4865 Reply

    Losing my mind!

    Filed: January 21
    Acceppted: January 26
    WMR: One bar for last two days and gives me the generic 21 days message.
    State NJ refund accepted last night. No DD yet.

    Has anyone using form 8863 gotten two bars on WMR or gotten a DD date?

    #4846 Reply

    Filed: 1/23
    Accepted: 1/26
    Wmr: processing- 1 bar

    The only way I was able to get the reps to look up my information was by telling them that I received an error coded as a duplicate return on the wmr website. She actually told me that they just recieved my return today and did not have a status yet. Although it showed as I was processing yesterday on the wmr site. I will give them a call tomorrow to see if I can gather more info.

    #4841 Reply

    Filed: 1/22
    Wmr: processing -1 bar
    If you are having problems seeing statuses- try clearing your
    Cache! It really helps(especially if you are “locked out”! :)

    #4832 Reply

    I filed on the 24th and had my return accepted by the IRS on the 24th with the 8863. However, Ive still been processing without a due date since then,,,,

    #4828 Reply

    Has anyone who filed after 01/29/13 had their return accepted by the IRS? I filed with HRB (and of course had the form 8863) and it seems as though the IRS Hasn’t even accepted my return from HRB…it is still pending on the HRB website and cannot be found in the IRS system.

    #4827 Reply
    Lisa O

    Any news on returns with 8863?

    Filed with TT on 1/17
    Accepted 1/24
    Still processing

    MI State Refund scheduled 2/6/2013

    #4738 Reply

    I filed with JH on 1/22 My State and Federal was accepted on 1/24. Wmr is still processing with generic message 21 days. When I filed my taxes on 1/22 my JH preparer told me that I should have mines by 2/14 and that’s what it looks like it’s coming too. And yes I am a 8863′er.

    #4702 Reply

    OK, so I have read and I understand that their will be a delay for 1040 forms with the form 8863. The 1040 forms have more itemized deductions. But does that also qualify for the 1040ez or 1030A. The are simplier. This will clear some confusion for myself.

    #4670 Reply
    Blak Gost

    I was told by the IRS they will start processing the 8863 returns on the 11th. That 8863 form persons are in holding at the processing point till them. We will see but maybe it wont be like last year I had to wait several months because of a faulty flagging in the flag software.

    #4655 Reply

    well at least i did my state and its already accepted so the form 8863 does not effect your state thank god.My sons state(VT) got accepted at 3:55pm friday the 25th and he received direct deposit already on the 29th thats what i calllll fast at least i can look forward to my state to hold me over!!!

    #4612 Reply

    I filed with TT on 1/26 with a form 8863 and it just saying “pending” so I dont think its even been sent to the IRS at this point…but I guess pending is better than rejected so I guess I will take it. I just hope they end up fixing this issue sooner than mid- February!

    #4577 Reply

    I filed Jan 26 with form 8863
    Got the successfully transmitted email
    … And that’s it
    No reject email
    Hoping mine doesn’t need to be re-filed..

    #4478 Reply

    I think this is a bunch of total bull.Why would it take them 2more weeks to fix this problem?Personally I think it’s all a excuse to bigger refunds back and push all of the quicker easier refunds through first that are also smaller in check size like my 2 sons 1040ez’s for example so they can get more interest on the money they do have in the bank.Makes no sence it would take so long.There going to have to shut this system down to fix it you would think???

    #4426 Reply

    I really hope we hear new news tomorrow! I’m done with this waiting game.

    #4425 Reply
    The Best Ever

    hang in there guys, i got word that the system may be ready to process us on Feb 11

    #4422 Reply

    I filed the 26th and was sent a email from Jackson Hewitt saying my refund was accepted the 27th. I checked WMR and it says processing with the bar and heres to hoping that the early filers are being processed as usual. If not hopefully I can be rejected and then re-file without the form…

    #4415 Reply

    TT just sent me this… finally, official word!

    Important Information About Your Federal Tax Return

    Process delay for higher education credits
    Your return has been accepted, but on January 28 the IRS announced that all returns like yours, with higher education credits, will be delayed for processing until sometime in mid-February. The specific higher education credits include the American Opportunity Tax Credit and the Lifetime Learning Credit, found on Form 8863.

    What this means
    Don’t worry, your return is still accurate, and the IRS has accepted it. However, because it contains Form 8863, it will not be processed until the IRS is ready, and your federal refund will take a little longer than expected. This is a nationwide issue for everyone who is filing Form 8863, no matter who is preparing your taxes.

    What you can do
    Keep watching your email. We will keep you updated with the latest information from the IRS about your return.

    #4412 Reply

    Fellow 8863’er here.
    Boy this website is addicting! I filed mine on the 24th and was accepted on the 26th, and I cant access thw WMR site, it says they have no info on me, and when I called the 800 #, it said the same thing as others have heeard, its processing, 21 days, blah blah blah.. I too wish I would of known this before I field, I would of left off the 8863, and just filed it later on.. Ugh..
    @ Lina, I sure hope that 2nd IRS person you talked to was right!

    I just wish the WMR site would at least show some kind of information..
    So we wait…..

    #4409 Reply

    Hi fellow 8863ers. First let me tell you that if you check WMR too many times in one day, it will basically block you and tell you nothing is found. It has been like that for years. I think it’s for your protection in case someone got your info. Also after speaking to one IRSer that didn’t even know there was a hold on 8863, I called back & the next lady said they should process 2/11. So by logic conclusion, those who got accepted last week ( w/o 8863 ) are getting DD on 2/1 we should get it a week after 2/11. Fingers crossed and we should all keep in touch and post when ours has been received.

    #4382 Reply

    @Crys, filed with H&R block on the 27th.. not sure if it was “accepted” beacause the IRS didnt start accepting the returns until the 30th,but I know a lady that works thre that entered all the returns in the system the next day so that when the IRS started to accept them on the 30th all of us that filed that day and before would already be sent to IRS…
    but like I said before mine was showing through the IRS WMR site earlier .. now it isnt showing anymore .. who knows .. always something every year.. Im not goign to expect mine anytime before Feb 21st..

    #4381 Reply

    Mine was accepted on the 26th and I checked the WMR around 1pm and had the processing bar, just rechecked it and same thing. Called the number and it says they received it and 90% get their refunds in 21 days yadda yadda… had I known this was going to be an issue I would have filed without that form and amended later :( some of us rely on this money for things that we can’t afford any other time. Like I need a new laptop for school and I need to fix the car that’s broken down outside that I havent been able to fix for 4 months. Ugh…. I miss paying H&R Block ridiculously high fees to have my money super fast :/ Seems like it takes the IRS longer and longer every year

    #4379 Reply

    @Connie.. the same thing happened to me earlier .. return accepted .. but now cant find me or I entered my info wrong.. and I didnt file with the 8863 (whatever that is)

    #4378 Reply
    The Best Ever

    lol, we have to stick together sister.

    #4377 Reply

    Mine has no bar or meter whatsoever, but my gf’s does, so I have no clue either

    #4375 Reply

    @YourTheBestEver :-) You made me feel better just knowing I’m not alone!

    #4374 Reply
    The Best Ever

    Yeah mine was showing online also with the return accepted bar but now its not showing neither, suggestions?

    #4373 Reply

    @Jackie 1/24. And it showed the tracker bar earlier today with only ACCEPTED filled in and the usual 21 day notice, now it is like years gone by where it shows nothing – like they don’t know you telling me I might have entered my information wrong. Just checked again, same thing. Perhaps this is like someone said, that they are doing them by hand or something. I should stop reading this site, LOL, I’m not all the concerned about it just makes me wonder, you know?

    #4372 Reply

    Connie- When did you get accepted? Mine says accepted but not acknowledged?? My current status:

    2012 Federal Personal
    TurboTax Electronic Postmark: January 25, 2013 10:04 PM PST

    Status: Pending
    What this means:
    It takes the IRS about 24 to 48 hours to process efiled returns. During that time, they are considered “pending.”
    Next step:
    Come back here later (we suggest waiting 24 hours), or check your email. We’ll notify you as soon as your return has been accepted.
    What’s the current IRS status on processing returns?
    Hide Efile History
    Sent to Tax Authority | 01/27/13 01:16:17 PM
    The filing has been transmitted to the agency and the agency has accepted (but not acknowledged) the filing. The system is now waiting for an acknowledgment message from the agency regarding the filing.

    Received by TurboTax | 01/28/13 06:27:06 PM
    Your return has been received. You can expect to receive an email acknowledgment within 24-48 hours, indicating whether or not your e-file was accepted.

    #4370 Reply

    *sigh* mine showed the Accepted bar a few hours ago on WMR, now they don’t find me. Wonder if they are holding it or kicking it back. Time will tell.

    #4369 Reply

    I contacted Turbo Tax to figure everything out and basically everyone who had been accepted early and approved, the IRS is holding on to those returns and if you were not accepted yet Turbo Tax will send your efiles out when issue is resolved.
    This is some of the info I was emailed after speaking with a Turbo Tax rep.

    “Thanks for reaching out. It’s good to hear that your return was accepted. Because your return has the form 8863, IRS will start processing refunds for returns like yours starting mid February. Don’t worry if your tax return has this form, you don’t need to do anything on your end. After mid-February, you can expect to receive your refund in 21 days or less. You can read more here:–What-You-Need-to-Know/GEN85071.html?direct=true”
    Hope this helps.

    #4364 Reply

    Hi- I filed with Turbo Tax Friday Jan 25 at 10pm and my husband and I both had a 1098 and filed form 8863. My current status says in line for processing and a link under the message that read:

    by TurboTaxBlogTeam January 30, 2013
    What is the current IRS status on processing returns?

    Last updated 1/30
    Congratulations of finishing your taxes!
    We know how important your refund is to you. Good news, there are currently no processing delays for TurboTax customers.
    The IRS started processing returns on January 30th. Returns will be processed in the order they were submitted and as soon as your return is accepted, we will notify you by email. This notification could take up to 24 hours.
    The IRS estimates that you should receive your refund within 21 days of your return being accepted. The IRS issued more than 9 out of 10 refunds in less than 21 days last year and expects the same results this year.
    Once your return has been accepted by the IRS, you can track the status of your refund by logging into your MyTurboTax account.

    #4344 Reply

    I filed on 1/17 with a form 8863 and was accepted on 1/24. Before the site became unavailable this morning it had said that my return was received but still being processed. No date, just the 21 day statement.

    #4343 Reply

    What does WMR say for those of you who filled with the 8863 form and was accepted? I filled on 24th and accepted 26th with the 8863. WMR says “We are sorry Where’s My Refund is currently unavailable. Please try again later or call the Refund Hotline at 1-800-829-1954.” I’m hoping since we’ve already been accepted and now on hold we’ll be the test batch so we’ll get it back faster then midfebuary.

    #4280 Reply


    The delay is with any return that has Form 8863. And yes, the bug was discovered in the new system after they accepted some early returns. My guess is that it won’t take until mid-February for them to fix the issue, but they are no doubt trying to give themselves some wiggle room. :)

    #4262 Reply

    I keep reading this for 1040, is it any different than for 1040A? Heck, I’m happy to get a refund, so it’s OK if it comes later. I am guessing this bug was found after they started accepting them? Education Credit form has always hung up early filing, I’m surprised we were able to fill it out at all this early.

    #4256 Reply
    chadm here is the site that lets you check sbbt to see if they have deposited money there from some of the tax preparers
    I have a account now….not sure if that is a good sign or if it is just part of the process…

    #4255 Reply

    Hello, Im a 8863er I filed on 1/18/13 was accepted on 1/25/13. In 2009 I was a victim of ID theft and my taxes were delayed for 3 years from that point on. This year I was told I was able to file with no blocks now Im delayed because of school credits crazy. Let the waiting began.

    #4253 Reply

    this is what I found sunday on the tax wise blog
    IRS EFile: Delayed Processing of Form 8863

    The IRS announced on an industry call with software vendors participating in the Controlled Launch this morning that they would start rejecting any e-file that contains Form 8863 (Education Credits) effective immediately.

    What does this mean for returns that you have already sent to the EFC, but have not been sent to the IRS?

    Any return that you have sent to the EFC that has NOT been transmitted to the IRS that contains Form 8863 will be rejected by the IRS with either Reject F1040-419 or F1040A-419 Form 8863 is not being accepted by Modernized e-File (MeF) at this time .

    Will the EFC reject any e-file that contains Form 8863 to the ERO instead of sending it to the IRS?

    No, we do not crack open the e-files at the EFC, we simply batch them and send them to the IRS. Any efiles already at the EFC will be transmitted to the IRS.

    Will you be issuing an update to the US 1040 module to prevent the e-files from being created?

    Yes, we are working on creating US 1040 v 4 that will prevent you from creating an e-file if the return contains Form 8863

    What will happen to the e-files that the IRS has already accepted that contained Form 8863?

    The accepted e-files that contain Form 8863 will be held for processing by the IRS until internal IRS programming can be made to accomodate the processing of these returns.

    Will this impact when the taxpayer refunds are processed for any accepted returns that contain Form 8863?

    Yes, the accepted returns are being held, which means they will not be sent to refund processing.

    hope this helps a little

    #4252 Reply

    I don’t believe the IRS has decided what they are exactly going to do with the early filers who were accepted with Form 8863. It is likely they will hold them until they can process them.

    There are over 3 million people who file using Form 8863 each year, so this has a huge impact. I doubt this will take long to fix.

    #4251 Reply

    Filed 1/22 accepted 1/26.Form 8863 included in filing. I am a single mother of four, work full time and am a full time student. Just going to wait and see what happens, but I am hoping that those already accepted will be processed before mid Feb to test the fixes to the system. It seems to me that they identified a problem and once they think it is fixed they will use returns on hand to run through to ensure the fix is good before opening for those who have not been accepted yet.

    #4250 Reply

    That is a question that I can not answer, It could be stored as they fix the issue, I would assume that if they were going to be kicked back that would already be happening. I hope for all of you that it comes sooner than later because waiting is horrible :(

    #4249 Reply

    What happens to the returns of the people that had already filed a 8863 form…i had filed with one already and was accepted.

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