If an individual owes money to the federal government because of a delinquent debt, the Treasury Department can offset that individual’s federal payment or withhold the entire amount to satisfy the debt.
HEALTHCARE PENALTY OFFSET (896)
- January 29, 2015 at 1:47 am #4096240
Anyone with 896 & 570 transaction codes on your transcript, please post here. Let’s update each other.
- February 1, 2015 at 7:40 pm #4099276
Woops… my bad.. at least I was close….. I don’t believe the march 1st thing at all…..February 1, 2015 at 7:38 pm #4099275
@starburst Yes. There are reports all over forums and pages, including here at IGMR, that people who have the 896, have successfully received their refund, with their penalty taken out appropriately without delay.February 1, 2015 at 7:38 pm #4099274
Yes they have to pay us interest… so on day 22 the interest starts buildijg…. they won’t let that happenFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:37 pm #4099272
The IRS does not pay interest until 45 days after April 1st.
45-Day Rule and All Original Tax Returns
1.For returns with due dates on or after January 1, 1994, without regard to extensions, the 45-day rule was expanded to apply to all types of tax returns (i.e., employment, excise, estate and gift taxes), not just income tax returns. — IRC 6611(e)(1), as amended by the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 (P.L. 103–66).
2.To determine whether the 45-day period has been met, consider these dates:
•The return due date (determined without regard to any extension of time for filing the return).
•The return received date (used when the return is filed after the return due date, determined without regard to any extension of time for filing the return).
•The date the return was received in processible form (Return Processible Date (RPD), or Correspondence Received Date (CRD) may be present).
3.Add 45 days to the later of these dates. If the date of the refund check is not on or before that date, interest must be allowed on the refund.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This right here explains it all.
Your return is due by April 15th, 2015 so the earliest they pay interest is 45 days later
If you file an extension of time to file, your 45 days starts the day you file after April 15, 2015
If you file ontime or late, and they can’t process it because it’s missing forms or illegible (paper copy), your 45 days doesn’t start until you get the IRS all the info they need.
Regardless, earliest interest starts is the end of May………….February 1, 2015 at 7:32 pm #4099270
There was a glitch that’s why we are on hold ?February 1, 2015 at 7:30 pm #4099267
@ whathappened so people who filed later than us who still had a health care penalty have already gotten refund even with having to pay health care penalty?February 1, 2015 at 7:27 pm #4099265
That statement about anyone owing a Health Care Penalty won’t get it til March 1st, can’t be true, because people who filed later than us, after the IRS realized there was a glitch, have already received their refunds………………….February 1, 2015 at 7:26 pm #4099264
@ ty why would they have to pay us interest? its says 9 out of 10 people get it before 21 days I didn’t know that if they dont pay by 21 days they have to pay interest if thats the case they have 10 days to get me mine I hate this waitingFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:25 pm #4099262
@neverland I’m sorry but that can’t possibly be true. Trust they wouldn’t want to pay that interest. March 1st? Lol nahFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:22 pm #4099259
@neverland Do you work for the IRS or something?February 1, 2015 at 7:22 pm #4099258
@*ty* I am going to say No. We will not see a DD or a DDD before your tranny update. I believe the 570 will reflect as being gone late Monday night for most. It will either just be gone, since it wasn’t suppose to be there to begin with, or they will reverse it with a 571 which is a release. The next step would be an 846 refund issued code. So if the system was able to finishing reprocessing this weekend, Monday night you should see an 846 and it will update likely on WMR Wednesday morning for a DD 2/6. In that case earliest people would see money is the same day the WMR updates, Wednesday 2/4, and that would be for prepaid cards, and banks that don’t hold funds until their specific day.February 1, 2015 at 7:21 pm #4099257
@ neverland I havent heard that before where did u hear that information and I am hoping thats not true since the penalty was taken right out of my tax refundFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:20 pm #4099256
Where u heat that from…. I don’t know muxh. But I do know they won’t let that happen…. when the 21 days pass they have to start paying us interest and they will not do thatFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:14 pm #4099251
Anyone that owes healthcare penalty will not receive refund any earlier than March 1st. This came straight from the irs.February 1, 2015 at 7:05 pm #4099246
I’m stumped on this one. Guess I’ll be calling again tomorrow and again and again and again. I’m off tomorrow so I have all day lolFebruary 1, 2015 at 6:54 pm #4099243
@ty I really don’t know. I was just saying I’m hopeful for an update this week because I think the information @whathappened posted is correct.February 1, 2015 at 6:46 pm #4099238
So could we get or dd or a.ddd before our tranny update? ??February 1, 2015 at 6:20 pm #4099230
@pooh pooh Mine is still showing on my transcripts, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t fallen off already. If the transcripts haven’t been updated yet, it would still show it until the update posts.February 1, 2015 at 6:16 pm #4099225
My 570 hasn’t dropped off yet.February 1, 2015 at 6:09 pm #4099221
Well, I’m hoping for next week. I think @whathappened has got it right and that 570 dropped off already. It’s just matter of things updating and posting now.February 1, 2015 at 6:02 pm #4099220
I got my state on Friday…. I’ve never been so frustrated about my income taxes until now. I got things I need to do but can’t make any moves until I know when my money will be deposited. Just want to treat myself to some simple things…. Hell I think I deserve that after working two jobs. Lol. Smh boy I tell you.February 1, 2015 at 5:49 pm #4099217
This year I have a DD for the state for 2/09/15.February 1, 2015 at 5:48 pm #4099216
What makes you think this will be our week. … I hope your rightFebruary 1, 2015 at 5:13 pm #4099208
I filed my state and federal return on 1/20/15 , this is the first time I have the state give me a date before the federal.
Last year my DD date for the State was 2/18/14 I received with Netspend at 4 p.m. on 2/13/14.February 1, 2015 at 5:05 pm #4099204
@taxpayer2013 Thank you.
@thesassysunnyd I’m in the boat same as you. Filed jointly with my husband, have two kids. I was the only one without insurance. Hopefully we see some movement this week!February 1, 2015 at 4:20 pm #4099191
I have been watching this site like a hawk for updates, and figured it was finally time to ask some questions myself. I am one of the ones who filed and accepted 1/22/14 with cycle code 20150402 with tax code 570/896. My husband and I filed married filing joint, and we have two little girls. I have not heard anything from Indiana State or WMR, and its quite frustrating to see a lot of people already receiving their money when my CPA quoted me about ten business to receive my refund when we filed. But oh well… I’ll just hang out here with the other thousands in the same boat. A lot of people have been saying that WMR is down. I think this may be why. I pulled it from the https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof/lang/en/irfofonlinehelp.jsp page.
Availability of “Where’s My Refund?”
Where’s My Refund? is available almost all of the time. However, our system is not available every Monday from 12:00 am (Midnight) to 3:00 am Eastern Time.
Our Change of Address and Refund Trace features are not available during the following times (Eastern Time):
Sunday 12:00 am (Midnight) to 7:00 pm
Monday 12:00 am (Midnight) to 6:00 am
Tuesday 3:30 am to 6:00 am
Wednesday 3:30 am to 6:00 am
Thursday 3:30 am to 6:00 am
Friday 3:30 am to 6:00 am
Saturday 3:30 am to 6:00 am
and 9:00 pm to 12:00 am (Midnight)
Also, occasionally our system may be unavailable on Sundays between 1:00 am and 7:00 am Eastern Time
If anyone knows of a FB group that I can join besides this site, please send me a request or add me. My username is thesassysunnyd
Thanks everyone!February 1, 2015 at 4:12 pm #4099190February 1, 2015 at 4:02 pm #4099187
WMR still down for me and so is the refund line. Is is usually down this long every year?February 1, 2015 at 3:53 pm #4099186
@CRYSTALINORLANDO: oh wait, so you dont know if you had a 896/570 since you cant transcript, right?
I got excited there for a minute lolFebruary 1, 2015 at 3:48 pm #4099183
@CRYSTALINORLANDO: hey you!!! Seriously??!!! When did you file and was accepted again? I forgot. You had the cycle 0402 too as well, right?February 1, 2015 at 3:41 pm #4099181
Do you think I could be under review ? I have a State DD of 2/09/15 , atleast I have some good news !February 1, 2015 at 3:34 pm #4099179
I am part of the healthcare penalty “crew” lol and my WMR updated yesterday morning with a DDD of 2/4 and I was able to order my transcripts via phone Friday evening because I had locked myself out of the online service so it is possible to have received an update over the weekend as I did. However as of today WMR is down but I see it’s down for alot of us.February 1, 2015 at 3:33 pm #4099178
Thank you for your help whathappened.February 1, 2015 at 3:30 pm #4099177
I have a minus sign in front of the amount .February 1, 2015 at 3:30 pm #4099176
Yes. CorrectFebruary 1, 2015 at 3:28 pm #4099175
The money hasn’t dropped from the top of the transcript , I guess that’s because my refund isn’t issued.February 1, 2015 at 3:26 pm #4099174
ok I got you. yes everything looks right for you thenFebruary 1, 2015 at 3:18 pm #4099172
I’m sorry no my taxpreparer hasn’t received her fees , the balance is my refund including her fees but minus the health care penalty.February 1, 2015 at 3:11 pm #4099166
Yes your transcript looks correct if your refund is $3,000
WMR is out of control, literally
If your tax preparer is claiming that they already received their fees, that would lead me to believe they have your funds, and should post them soon. However if they are just making a note that your owe them $285 in fees, than it may be a wait still. The IRS would release your full refund at once, they wouldn’t just pay your preparer fees, and hold the rest.February 1, 2015 at 3:01 pm #4099161
It didn’t go down for me and I still received the same message with one bar , we have received your return and it is being processed with topic 152.February 1, 2015 at 2:57 pm #4099156
My tax preparer already deducted the $285 fee out of my tax return balance remaining is what is owed to me minus my tax preparers fees.
I don’t understand what’s hold up……. must be the budget cuts….. so they say .February 1, 2015 at 2:55 pm #4099155
Does your transcript look like this at the top.
Account balance – $3,0000
Account balance plus accruals ( this is not a payoff amount) -$3000February 1, 2015 at 2:52 pm #4099151
@2013taxpayer HA! Mine not only went down yesterday evening, I STILL CAN NOT get it to work on the app or my computer, still pops up as down, but phone line works
@Shaunna I hear that!February 1, 2015 at 2:50 pm #4099150
It wohld be fantastic to wake up to money in the bank but I’m not holding my breath! Quite frankly as long as its here by the 13th I’ll be happy, annoyed, but happy. Lol.February 1, 2015 at 2:48 pm #4099149
DANG!!! Am I the only one that WMR “did not” go down at all??!! LOLFebruary 1, 2015 at 2:45 pm #4099146February 1, 2015 at 2:44 pm #4099145
@Shaunna Yes, people are growing tired of this, as it is quite unfair we are being penalized on top of already being penalized. However don’t be discouraged when there is not update in the morning. There is always the rare chance that a DD will show up in accounts before WMR or transcripts reflect our updates, but I really do trust that as the processing continues and finishes up, we will see updates on WMR, and money towards the end of the week.February 1, 2015 at 2:40 pm #4099143
@2013taxpayer LOL! I try to only share what I can back up with actual facts, for example, what comes out of the manual. I however can make no guarantees that the IRS follows their own rules to a T. I am sure there are situations that happen, where they honestly have no control over what is happening, and the only fix is to freeze the process, make a correction, and try again. I just see a lot of tension and hatred starting to pop up on different forums and pages, and that isn’t going to help anyone get their money any faster.February 1, 2015 at 2:38 pm #4099142
I know its going to be a disappointment if people don’t wake up to a change tomorrow but I feel pretty confident this will all be settled this coming week.February 1, 2015 at 2:36 pm #4099141February 1, 2015 at 2:32 pm #4099139
@Shaunna ABSOLUTELY! Processing happened on Friday, Saturday, and today, just won’t post until tomorrow late.February 1, 2015 at 2:28 pm #4099136
And all of that (the reprocessing ) could have been done this weekend, yes? But we won’t know for a day or so.February 1, 2015 at 2:24 pm #4099133
I also just want to say, I know lots of us are skeptical to believe any one thought or theory because it is your money that is involved. However, I don’t think there is any need for tax advocates. I understand that people don’t think the 570 came off on Friday, because we don’t see it reflected on our transcripts, and no one got a dd or ddd. That is really easy to understand though. It’s not as if by magic the code would come off and people would start seeing money appear in their bank accounts, or ddd would show up on WMR. Friday was a deferred day, NOTHING posted ,and NOTHING will post until tomorrow. Believe what you want, but it is a process. The code has to come off, your return will need further processing to acknowledge the code is gone, and then a DDD will be generated.February 1, 2015 at 1:49 pm #4099120
Not surprising at all that no one saw an update on WMR or transcripts. Transcripts won’t update until late tomorrow into Tuesday early. Friday was a deferred day, nothing posted. Saturday and Sunday are non posting days even if processing, and won’t post til Monday either. WMR being down for an extended time, is directly related to the Acknowledgment system errors that had been happening a few times last week. I know there are all kinds of rumors and theories going around, and some people are promising the WMR was down and is still down because a big update is coming, but its not going to happen today or tonight. Look for progress or updates late tomorrow night into Tuesday morning.February 1, 2015 at 12:18 pm #4099095
no change here, my transcripts are the same, wmr unavaiable for me since last night, i don’t really count that as my #1 source for info, last year i had my deposit before it updated. anyone see any movement?February 1, 2015 at 10:42 am #4099048
Anything is worth a try. This is getting Un called forFebruary 1, 2015 at 10:36 am #4099044
That’s great so maybe they will help me if I don’t see anything by Tuesday morning.February 1, 2015 at 9:47 am #4099019
I don’t know. I researched them and they help out for alot of different reasons..February 1, 2015 at 9:34 am #4099009
No update here for me , wmr down since last night , dont rely on that anyway last year i had my dd before it even updatedFebruary 1, 2015 at 9:22 am #4099005
I guess this is you owe the irs money, sorry for misleading anyone. I thought they would be able to help me but advocates I guess are only for people who owe the irs large sums of money.February 1, 2015 at 9:16 am #4099001
Tax payer advocate free hotline 877-777-4778.February 1, 2015 at 9:12 am #4099000
Well heck what’s the number to themFebruary 1, 2015 at 9:10 am #4098998
The advocate would look into my tax situation and try to expedite it.February 1, 2015 at 9:07 am #4098996
What does and would a tax advocate do?February 1, 2015 at 8:31 am #4098989
No change here this morning, but I didn’t expect one. WMR tool has been unavailable to me since 11pm last night. Is it loading for anyone? I thought maybe they are upgrading it or something.February 1, 2015 at 8:27 am #4098986
@ty: i honestly don’t think we will see update over the wkend. Like whathappened said…Friday was a deferred day so anything processing that day and over the weekend will post on Monday. So we may see something between Mon-Wed. If the darn code lifted itseld like it’s supposed to.February 1, 2015 at 8:15 am #4098984
@2013taxpayer you’re welcome and thank you! @poohpooh I’m hoping the same thing. This has just been a headache.February 1, 2015 at 8:07 am #4098981
I’m hoping to see my funds released by Tuesday morning if no change , I will speak with a tax advocate.February 1, 2015 at 7:42 am #4098976
So when do we update again. Tonight of tomrrow night??February 1, 2015 at 6:53 am #4098970
@ty: Good morning! :) Me too…just gonna wait it out and see what needs to be done next when 2-16th comes if no dd or ddd by then.February 1, 2015 at 6:42 am #4098969
Good morning 2013……. ya it would be nice to see a update.. but I don’t know what to expect anymoreFebruary 1, 2015 at 6:37 am #4098967
@bbaker2007: no…all of us 896/570’ers have gotten no update on transcripts. Also, the day you viewed it is the day transcripts were first made available to many. Hope we have good news this coming week.
@nikki: Thanks! Hopefully soon! Have a great day at work! :)February 1, 2015 at 6:11 am #4098966
We’ll good morning my 570/896 fam! No changes as of yet. :(. But I hope you all have a beautiful day and hopefully we will see some positive changes throughout today or hopefully tomorrow. Off to work I go!!! Ttyl!February 1, 2015 at 5:20 am #4098961
I filed on the 19th and accepted on the 20th…and I didn’t know anything about viewing the transcripts until I looked at a few pages on fb. The first time I looked at them was on the 26th. And that’s when I realized I had those codes. From what I’ve been reading they along with the wmr page won’t update, so what I mean by change is could it have possibly changed or updated before I looked at them?February 1, 2015 at 12:33 am #4098930
@bbaker2007: what do you mean by changing before you viewed them? answer these please:
When did you file?
When were you accepted?
What date were you able to view your transcipt?January 31, 2015 at 9:35 pm #4098833
So I’ve been reading this feed since yesterday and I have the same two codes as everyone else…896/570…I’ve been able to view all my transcripts for the few days and it’s still the same..all of them..none of them have changed..is it possible that they changed before I viewed them?January 31, 2015 at 8:42 pm #4098813
@ty: i believe so! you are done processing.January 31, 2015 at 8:41 pm #4098812
@whathappened: so sorry! next time, enjoy your dinner and then respond hahaha. Thank you for getting back to me!January 31, 2015 at 8:27 pm #4098807
So I’m guessing cents I have a return one I’m in good shapeJanuary 31, 2015 at 8:18 pm #4098805
@2013taxpayer Sorry for the delay, just ran out and got some dinner, and about to eat but saw your question.
Being under review, you likely would NOT see a return transcript, but would see your account transcript.
A account transcript is generated when you file a tax return and it is acknowledged. It simply means you have filed a return that year, and will have a tax account history for that year. It is the transcript that gets updated if at any time you request changes, or the IRS changes something.
A return transcript is the record of what you filed on your return, and does not update. It will remain as originally filed forever. If you can see your return transcript, it has been through processing.January 31, 2015 at 7:14 pm #4098792
@ty: i gave in and texted my brother lol (he is a CPA and yes i am hard-headed with my siblings hahaha). He told me once return transcript is available you are done processing. Account doesn’t even matter because some people will be able to order the account whether they are done processing or not. There are also people who can’t view or order both and they are done processing. That is why colleges only accept return transcripts and not account transcripts.
so going along with whathappened said we are done processing just waiting for it to be released.January 31, 2015 at 6:58 pm #4098787
I would not think we could view them all.January 31, 2015 at 6:53 pm #4098784
@whathappened: if we were under review, would the return transcript still be made available to us? Or does that only become available when you’re done processing?January 31, 2015 at 6:51 pm #4098783
so i decided to double check my return and noticed i didn’t change my address i use turbotax and transferred from last years that had my old address my w2 has my new address is that an issue that could have got me that 570? by the way my family still lives at the old address so i would get any mail and what notJanuary 31, 2015 at 6:45 pm #4098781
o lol i created an account would hate to have to do all that all the timeJanuary 31, 2015 at 6:41 pm #4098779
@gazoo People get locked out of their transcripts for various reasons. Identity Theft indicators would be the number one reason. However entering the wrong info 3 times will get you locked out for 24 hours. If you don’t create an account, you have to reenter your info every time you view your transcripts. If you don’t enter it in the exact format they are looking for it will lock you out because info doesn’t match. For example you type North, and it was looking for N, you type Rd. and it was looking for Road. Also if you were able to access them once, and when you go back the info your entered the first time doesn’t work, your account may have been updated, and your info may need to be tweaked slightly. Regardless, its definitely common to get locked out, so someone claiming they are is likely telling the truthJanuary 31, 2015 at 6:36 pm #4098777
starting to question how much of the info we keep getting is accurate is it normal to be locked out of your transcript?January 31, 2015 at 6:11 pm #4098772
@whathappened: the letter is dated 1/27th and she has viewed her transcript and she said she didnt have a 971 but she does have 896/570 (last time she checked).January 31, 2015 at 6:08 pm #4098768
@whathappened: yeah, we asked for her transcripts but she is currently locked out.January 31, 2015 at 6:04 pm #4098766
@2013taxpayer She is definitely under further review. I mentioned this the other day. People with issues beyond 896/570 would see delays. If she can view her transcripts, she probably has an 810 freeze, or something similar.January 31, 2015 at 6:02 pm #4098765
@2013taxpayer That’s a verification letter. In other words they are questioning something she reported on her return. Income, tax credits, dependents, etc. That would have nothing to do with the 896 healthcare penalty. They aren’t questioning something she owes, they are questioning something she is trying to collect a refund on.January 31, 2015 at 5:59 pm #4098763January 31, 2015 at 5:58 pm #4098762January 31, 2015 at 5:56 pm #4098759
Whats the letter number?January 31, 2015 at 5:39 pm #4098751
And Since I didn’t say this, and apparently some question it. The only other action WMR may have is new filer acceptances. This is simply the first WMR action when the IRS acknowledges they have your return. Just because they aren’t processing or posting, doesn’t mean they aren’t accepting. It has been updated over the past few seasons to be updated in real time. It can take 24 to 48 hours if the system happens to be down, when your submitted yours, but the average acknowledgements are under 12 hours now, most happening in minutes to a few hours.January 31, 2015 at 5:34 pm #4098750
@ty: the 896/570 one said it isn’t on her transcript the last time she viewed hers but she is locked out now and can’t view it again to see. She said called yesterday and wasn’t told she would be sent a letter either.January 31, 2015 at 5:27 pm #4098746
I’m assuming that it would take a few days for that to get to the person. But won’t your tranny say that they sent a notice out… 2 years ago I revieved a notice and it said it on the tranny…. or does that come into pay with them not updating for us?January 31, 2015 at 5:22 pm #4098744
@whathappened: two people have posted they got a notice in the mail today. One had only 570 and the other 896/570. I am waiting to see if it will apply to us or she had it for some other reason. But she isn’t replying yet to what the ID of the letter (CP05, etc.) is on her notice. I will update soon.January 31, 2015 at 5:08 pm #4098738
Thanks for the infoJanuary 31, 2015 at 5:05 pm #4098737
And I’ll say it again, based on everything I have read, and pulling together info others have shared, I believe MOST of us will see money by the end of the week. 2/4 – 2/6. Notice I said MOST, there will be exceptions to the rule, as there always is. But for those who have a 570/896 ONLY, MOST should have updates coming up this week. Whether the 570 comes off because its a systemic release (which some of you don’t believe) or if it comes off because someone went in there and lifted it, or if the issue that caused this was fixed and they resequenced you to get the computer to lift it, the result will still be the same. It will end with a DDD being generated as soon as your account has the new information posted to it, which can’t happen before Monday.January 31, 2015 at 4:32 pm #4098724
@*ty* Transcripts updating and DDD generating, is based off of new information posted to your tax account. Nothing could post yesterday being deferred, while stuff does process Saturday and Sunday, its post with Friday or Monday. So in this case nothing new will post until Monday night, which will be the next time people see their transcripts update, and a new DDD will be issued. The only updates that MAY continue to happen before Monday night are, the losing of bars. This is directly caused by your return not having any updates to it in a certain number of days. So whether you get resequenced, or simply didn’t move in progress because of lack of posting on a deferred day, your bars will disappear. Once your account updates again, you get your bars back, and it often results in a DDD along with it, because that was your next step anyhow before you got jammed up or started over.January 31, 2015 at 2:45 pm #4098686
@Shaunna: That is what I am hoping for….gonna give it til next week.
It seems that the 570 has been lifted according to a person from the fb group I am in, she went in with her transcript into IRS office in Long Beach and she was told it has been lifted and is back into processing. However, she wasn’t given a definite date for a dd. At least it is progress, I guess.January 31, 2015 at 2:33 pm #4098680
And people (at least some) from the 26th have a ddd, right? That’s why i figured if we went back into processing even yesterday we should see something Monday-ishJanuary 31, 2015 at 2:27 pm #4098678
The issue was fixed by the 26th. So anyone before that date that filed was considered an early filer as well for the ACA thing. Some went through and some didn’t go through. But anyone that filed on or by the 26th is going to be fine. It sucks!January 31, 2015 at 2:24 pm #4098677
Hi all! Hoping for good news for us soon!
@whathappened: thank you for sharing! It makes total sense.January 31, 2015 at 2:17 pm #4098675
My opinion (just opinion, based on others calls) is that the transcripts wont update but wmr will. They both may not, i just have a feeling wmr will. Because i think we’re basically starting over processing. And considering its only taken a few days for those who filed this week i think we’re almost finished with this mess. Again, just my opinionJanuary 31, 2015 at 2:11 pm #4098672
If you scroll down to @whathappened‘s post, it explains the posting and transcript thing.January 31, 2015 at 2:06 pm #4098667
@Shaunna so your saying out transcript wont update and wmr also wont uodate?January 31, 2015 at 2:02 pm #4098660
Everyone who’s gotten any answers have been told they won’t. Idk.January 31, 2015 at 1:54 pm #4098654
But don’t the trannys update daily?? Which would mean if would show in there that it was lifted right???January 31, 2015 at 1:46 pm #4098648
The code could have been lifted. We could just be re processing. But if transcripts aren’t updating we aren’t goong to know until money hits. Even if we just went back into processing yesterday it should only be a couple more days.January 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm #4098645
Seems like no one really knows what’s going on not even the irs or they just playing stupidJanuary 31, 2015 at 1:31 pm #4098636
@saxmom well we are kind of in the same boat. Except i owe $66 which was deducted out of my refund. I mean they will be the first to get their money so I’m not understanding this 570 code thing and why it’s being held. Hopefully tomorrow or Monday it will be taken off and given a DDD.January 31, 2015 at 11:31 am #4098560
I belive I’m going to write this year off and forget about it… I’ve called a million times and have got nothing. This is one of the many many reason I can’t stand the government. They won’t tar there time taking taxes out of our check but they will delay all they can to give backJanuary 31, 2015 at 11:20 am #4098548
0405 here…I am one with a 570 code and no 896. I had health insurance through the marketplace all year, and had a tax credit. When I filed my taxes, my credit increased and I am getting an additional amount back. I believe this is where the glitch popped up, and I am hoping for an update next Friday. I can view all of my transcripts as well. We shall see! I am interested to know…for the other 570s, when did your code first appear on your transcript? That may have something to do with why some 0402s haven’t updated yet. Mine appeared yesterday (Friday).January 31, 2015 at 11:06 am #4098533January 31, 2015 at 10:50 am #4098522
That can be explained as well. Their situations aren’t identical to yours, mine, or others. There have been people with 896, who never got the 570, and got their DDD. There are also some reporting having 896 and 570, but now updating to a DDD. Point being just because someone has 896 & 570, doesn’t mean they are related. Yes, we have been able to determine the 896 & 570 alone are related, but thats not 100% of the time. TC570 is a generic code for many things that fall under additional liability pending/ credit hold. Just because someone has 896 & 570 together, doesn’t mean they are caused by the other. If they have another code, or reason for review, the 570 can be related to that as opposed to the 896. In other words if they have 896, and another code or reason for review, they got the 570 for that. If they didn’t have another code or reason for review, they would have never got the 570, and would have went on to DDD, like some with only 896 have already done.January 31, 2015 at 10:45 am #4098518January 31, 2015 at 10:35 am #4098515
Whathappened…….. ok I see what u saying but why did ppl wake up with changes and they got ddd and we disnt????January 31, 2015 at 10:32 am #4098511
No changes for me. Not losing hope though. From what I’ve read here, turbo tax forums, and facebook group, it appears multiple people were told the 570 was lifting on it’s own yesterday, which is inline with the systemic release on the 4th business day after posting (code posted monday, so 1st business day wa Tuesday, 2nd day Wednesday, 3rd day Thursday, 4th day Friday. The reason I think we aren’t seeing updates is because Yesterday (Friday 1/30) was a deferred day, meaning anything processed didn’t post, and can’t post until Monday. Monday is an elongated day, which means anything that processed or updated on Friday, today, or tomorrow, will post late Monday night, early Tuesay morning.January 31, 2015 at 10:29 am #4098509
This is so nerve wrecking!!!! No changes yet….. I’m glad I can come here and vent…. :'(January 31, 2015 at 9:50 am #4098470
im on a desktop now how can I send the screen shot?January 31, 2015 at 9:47 am #4098468
I posted something a little earlier can anyone see it?January 31, 2015 at 9:46 am #4098467
Yes I did have these codes 570/896January 31, 2015 at 9:45 am #4098464
I wrote a post earlier this morning for some reason im not able to post!!January 31, 2015 at 9:40 am #4098460
If u are using a mobile phone u will have to view this page as a desktop site not a mobile sight…. the irs manual is bull… There not follwing it at allJanuary 31, 2015 at 9:23 am #4098446
@Crystalinorlando Did you have codes 570/896 on your transcripts?January 31, 2015 at 9:21 am #4098440
I can see your posts :)January 31, 2015 at 9:19 am #4098438
Transcripts show no change, either. If the code did fall off yesterday, maybe changes won’t show until Monday and that’s when we will get a DDD or deposit. Not sure about the cycles. I would think if it did fall and our processing is complete, we wouldn’t have deposits today anyways. Doesn’t it take a day or two after processing?
The error thing sounds most reasonable to me. But the thing about not getting the healthcare penalty money to the right spot seems strange. If that’s the case, then how are other people with the health penalty getting DDDs and deposits with no problem?January 31, 2015 at 9:17 am #4098436
I just posted an update but im not seeing my posts! ugh….January 31, 2015 at 9:16 am #4098433
Can anyone see my posts?January 31, 2015 at 9:14 am #4098431
I wanted to give everyone an update I filed on 1/6 and was accepted on 1/13 my bars went missing shortly after the 17 after waiting a nerve wrecking what seemed to be FOREVER as of this morning the WMR website showed 2 bars and a DDD of February 4th. I contacted the IRS last week Tuesday and was told my tax return was re-sequenced and actually wasn’t accepted until 1/21 so for those of you that still haven’t received and update on the WMR website and filed and accepted after 1/21 but before 1/30 you should be receiving and update on the website probably within the next couple of days. Good luck to everyone still waiting this website really helped me get through this rough tax season I would send a screen shot of WMR updated for me however its giving me an security error.January 31, 2015 at 9:10 am #4098426
No changes for me this morning.January 31, 2015 at 9:04 am #4098422
no change at all for me today…….January 31, 2015 at 8:51 am #4098414
No change here on wmr, haven’t checked transcripts yet. can anyone direct me to the area on this forum where other 570\896 peeps were talking about the manual and the 570 code? I’ve tried on my own, but can’t find the part in the manual that they had posted about when it would fall off, etc.January 31, 2015 at 8:40 am #4098410
Any movement for anyone?January 31, 2015 at 8:22 am #4098399
No update to my transcript or wmr for me this morning. I am hoping for news soon.January 31, 2015 at 7:56 am #4098386
Yes all I have seen is one updated… that’s why I’m not believing itJanuary 31, 2015 at 7:44 am #4098384
Can aanone see my messages… when I post them I can’t see them lolJanuary 31, 2015 at 7:42 am #4098382
And apparently only one person’s WMR updated? Idk. I’m hoping for something Monday, and I’m not even going to check wmr/transcripts anymore.January 31, 2015 at 7:31 am #4098379
And as we can see they don’t follow they’re own rulesJanuary 31, 2015 at 7:26 am #4098374
I have 1 bar……
And I don’t see how only 1 person tranny updated and Evryone else didn’tJanuary 31, 2015 at 3:59 am #4098316
@pooh pooh: you told me on the main feed that your tax preparer can see a 971 notice? Are you able to look up your transcript yourself online? Or does your preparer views it for you?January 31, 2015 at 3:08 am #4098302
@whathappened: have found out that the 570 was placed either because it was in error OR because the fine isn’t going to where it is supposed to go like school debts, child supports, etc.
From majority from people calling in…the 570 has fallen off (just as you said on the 4th day) and now we await for them to release the funds and it can be anywhere from the 2nd or the 6th but the latest on the 16th. So many calls were made today to many depts lol within the fb group I am in. So we sit and wait to see if it is true what we have been told.January 31, 2015 at 12:05 am #4098270
Anything new or good happening ? I had to stay away from here today before I made myself crazy. Only thing I had happen today was one irs agent repeat 21 days to me everything I said, and wouldn’t even take my name. And another who said the 21 day speil and hung up on me.January 30, 2015 at 11:20 pm #4098254
@deeintn: i would think so because we are waiting for the treasury to debit and you are waiting for credit from the treasury.January 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm #4098230
I am also a 570 code without a 896. I filed 1/16, accepted 1/20 and have had one bar on wmr since acceptance. Got my transcripts on 1/27 and can view all of them with a cycle code 20150402. Unfortunately, like the others here, I did not get my DDD or DD yet. I had insurance through the exchange all year and actually will be getting a little $ back from it. I guess this must work the same as those who didn’t have it? not sure, don’t think we have any offsets that I am aware of.January 30, 2015 at 10:16 pm #4098226
@nikki: Noooooo! There are many out there! So don’t feel lonely! :) We have many in the fb group I am in…#Club570. One person has called named Dee and found out her 570 has been lifted (she doesn’t have the 896) today. Group consists of 570’ers (loke yourself) and 896/570’ers :).January 30, 2015 at 9:55 pm #4098220
Quick question…. Just wondering am I the only one with a 570 code and no 896?January 30, 2015 at 9:33 pm #4098213
@fliptaxmoney: so sorry! Don’t think we ignored you, I scrolled down and just noticed your question.
Unfortunately, I did not use TT. However, I haven’t heard a problem about it from others as of yet. I didn’t do the exemption so that is why I am paying the penalty. So I have a 896 code on my transcript for the penalty being debited from my refund and had the 570 after which is a freeze code. If you those codes then you’re in the same boat as us.January 30, 2015 at 9:23 pm #4098206January 30, 2015 at 8:31 pm #4098187
After reading a few posts I really feel we should have our refund Monday or by Wednesday at the latest… Stay hopeful everyone I really have a good feeling..January 30, 2015 at 8:29 pm #4098184January 30, 2015 at 8:03 pm #4098166
@pooh pooh: no, we are went thru hubby’s work insurance.
I wanted to share that I called this ph# today 1-866-897-3315 and they transferred me. I was told that my 570 hold has been removed and to expect my refund soon. He said to check on Monday. This is a supervisor I spoke with because the agent got me upset because she kept telling me she doesn’t see a 570 code. She was right all along. The supervisor told me that I no longer have the code. The transcript will not update for us. Forgot to ask about WMR. There has been 4 (includes myself) so far reported with the same response. So…only time will tell if it is the truth. Just wanted to update you guys. :)January 30, 2015 at 7:57 pm #4098163
Taxpayer have you recently applied for health insurance through the market place ?January 30, 2015 at 6:54 pm #4098124
I’ve been following your thread…its been VERY HELPFUL!
Just thought I’d share what this guy said a few weeks ago…
HE GOT RIGHT IN THE MONEY..IN THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS!January 30, 2015 at 5:44 pm #4098096
Lol they won’t follow there own rules… it would be nice but don’t get hopes up. U will probably be let downJanuary 30, 2015 at 5:29 pm #4098090
Hello I am unable to view my transcripts online but i called over the phone and today they finally finished processing. Since i can not view it am unsure of what code i have.
My question is i used turbo tax. I did not have health care i checked the box that i filed for an exemption and have not heard back yet….. will they penalize me? Did any of you also use TT and check the filed for exemption and have not heard back and receive the 896 code? Thanks for all your helpJanuary 30, 2015 at 5:20 pm #4098086
2 professions that pay you to not have accurate information… the IRS and a Weatherman. lolJanuary 30, 2015 at 5:10 pm #4098081
That’s the problem none of them smart irs ppl know what’s going on and it’s sad. I work and know how to do my job. That’s what I’m paid for. But them lol… We need to work for the irs… it’s a easy job. .. All you have to do is say call back in 21 daysJanuary 30, 2015 at 5:07 pm #4098078
@*ty* That is the question of the hour! I hope someone has an answer to this madness soon! I just want an honest time frame!January 30, 2015 at 5:00 pm #4098072
But how long is all of this going to take????January 30, 2015 at 3:38 pm #4098021
It almost feels like they don’t have the answer as to when it will be released. I wonder if it is automatically done in cycles. since I was a part of the 02 cycle, I wonder if anyone will be getting DD Saturday or if we get thrown to the next week.January 30, 2015 at 3:03 pm #4098002
I have called them also…the previous post I posted and this one I am about to post (my own call) is with an agent from the tax law dept that takes care of the ACA penalty:
I told the agent that I’m calling because I pulled up my transcript and I see a 570 freeze code on there but I also see an 896 code and the amount seems to be my fine for no insurance. She immediately responded and told me that it isn’t done processing and gave me the 21 days spill. So I told her, “oh, do you want me to tell you what I have on my return transcript since I have it right here in front of me?” She sounded shocked and that’s when she placed me on hold. I can hear her talking to someone while I’m on hold…no clue to whom. She comes back and tells me since I have my transcripts I’m done processing and then takes my info from me. She then told me that it isn’t really a freeze. It is just waiting for the fine to be taken out and it will be released. I asked her if she knows when will it be released and she told me that it isn’t a major delay. I gave her the date on the transcript (2-16) and she told me it would be taken care of before that date because it really isn’t a freeze.
#Club570January 30, 2015 at 1:54 pm #4097942
Does it say anything about when it will unfreeze? I thought I saw some talk somewhere about 4 days?January 30, 2015 at 1:48 pm #4097934
Jami stuck again this year
yes I get that that is why I am glad I have the 896. but the manual says if the 570 is 00.00 the freeze will un freeze..
Frozen status released by the following:
TC 571 or 572.
Module goes to zero or debit balance (except
when module contains any TC with Doc Code 33
in the DLN.
Posting of TC 30X (except with disposal code 7 or
Posting of TC 29X (except with priority code 6 or
7 or blocked 200-299)
TC 840 blocked 920-929.
TC 29X with TC 180 with zero amount if there is
no unreversed TC 180 or 186 postedJanuary 30, 2015 at 1:45 pm #4097928
Jami stuck again this year
is there any hope that we will get a dd this week?January 30, 2015 at 1:31 pm #4097915
Jami stuck again this year ….the amount for the penalty should be next to the 896 , the 570 is ‘holding’ your return from going out to you before that 896 amount is sent to the treasury, thats why if you only have 570 and not the 896 it’s a hold for something else/some other offsetJanuary 30, 2015 at 1:09 pm #4097889
Jami stuck again this year
@2013 Taxpayer thanks for that helpful and hopeful info. Never two of the same answers from these irs people. that makes sense except, it seems, if the penalty was already calculated in your refund amount by the tax preparer (or software) then it has already been taken out and that is why there is a $00.00 by the 570. as if it has already been offset and taken and put wherever the he– it goes. If so we should be unfroze(?) unfrozen, whatever. Just wondering if anybody has an amount other than oo.oo next to 570?January 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm #4097880
Well I don’t have the 896 and 570 code I only have the 570 code. Okay I called the IRS this morning….. But I was told that it’s a system issue and I’ve done nothing wrong and everything was done right. I will get my refund but he didn’t say when…… However I got my state refund. :-) but I need that federal though. Lol. I won’t complain. In due time.January 30, 2015 at 1:02 pm #4097873
It would be nice to Have them hurry upJanuary 30, 2015 at 12:41 pm #4097850
Here’s more from the group in….if you would like to join they’re on FB (group is #Club570):
“OMG. I tried to upload the video of my conversation with the tax law department. They handle all the healthcare penalty stuff. This is what she said……. They were just informed this morning that the WMR site is not updating properly and they are working on it. She sounded very surprised that we are able to view our transcripts. She says that we have all processed if we can see them and that yes there is a hold but not really a hold per say. We are waiting for the penalty to come out of our refunds before being released, She also said that since they handle ALL of the healthcare penalty stuff that if we did have holds that they would know about it. It is being treated as an offset because they need to get the funds out. The reason it is taking a little longer to get the funds than usual is because the penalty is not going to its usual places, like student loans, back taxes and back child support. We WILL be processed completely BEFORE the 21 day mark. (theres that wonderful 21 day thing again).
Anyway, she said since this whole healthcare thing is new, the rest of the IRS does NOT know how to answer us. The advocates do not know either. The only ones that know anything are the healthcare tax law dept. We should not listen to anyone else. She assured me that we have nothing to worry about. On that note, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE code 896, YOU NEED TO CALL and find out what your 570 code is for. This only pertains to those with the 896/570 code. She also said that there is NO WAY anyone could say that the 570 will fall off on the 6th. It just depends on how fast they can get the penalty taken out of each refund. AGAIN< IF THERE WAS A HOLD OR IF WE WERE SUSPENDED THEY WOULD KNOW IN HERE DEPT. THERE IS NO HOLD PER SAY OR SUSPENSION ON OUR REFUNDS.
P.S. if there are any typos, I’m sorry. just typing as fast as i can, to get this info out. Finally got someone that was a human and not a stupid IRS Agent.”January 30, 2015 at 12:40 pm #4097849
Let us know what that say… Maybe u can get more out of them then I did for the past 4 daysJanuary 30, 2015 at 12:28 pm #4097838
So far I have seen many with 0402 and not as many with 0403 (here & there).January 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm #4097836
Thanks all for info and updates! Hopefully we’ll see some movement for us soon.January 30, 2015 at 12:24 pm #4097833
Is it only transcripts in the 0402 that this is happening to, or is it happening on all?January 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm #4097820
Turbo Tax Online Agent:
Hi everyone – I wanted to let you know that we are working this situation with IRS right now, and the minute we have any information to share, I’ll include it here. Your comments have been helpful in providing background and context. Please hang in there and I will share more information as soon as we have it. Kim
I will post updates.January 30, 2015 at 12:15 pm #4097819
Jami stuck again this year
I was reading last night in the main feed (I think) maybe trans group, and some one viewing their transcripts from previous years said they did not have the 846 on their transcript from last years trans but that they got their refund last year. Since the 570 simply freezes the deposits Maybe when the 570 expires it releases the dd and the 846 doesn’t appear????? anything is possibleJanuary 30, 2015 at 12:06 pm #4097810
Jami stuck again this year
In this same crazy ” I need my money now but ain’t getting it” group. OMG same crap happened to me last year for some other stupid unknown reason. I could view my transcripts Tuesday but that was the first day I tried so maybe avail before then dunno. Was so excited to be 20150402. now this crap. I have 570/896. 507 has 00.00, 896 has 143 for penalty which I cannot believe I am not exempt for low income single mom 4 kids making less then 15 k– Ok sorry to rant but ..you know to us broke people these refunds are life changing and yada yada. anyhoo, I filed on 17th with JH they submitted and I was accpt on 20th. Same filing info as the last five years w2, self-empl, same dependants same address etc..I get .EIC, and Child tax, I am here to suffer along with ya’ll. I got to keep reminding myself that God is in control of everything and that includes when I get my cash from the I freakin RS.January 30, 2015 at 12:04 pm #4097807
I’m on hold now with the IRS..of course there’s a 15-30 min wait. I’m on min. 17 now.
I’ll let you guys know what they tell me.January 30, 2015 at 11:50 am #4097790
@AshleyfromSC15 Could you tell me where you found the info in the manual for the offset overflow freeze? I’d like to read it too.If the 570 we got was a freeze from this, it would explain why it seems so random (like two people filing the same day, one gets the 570, the other gets their DDD on time.)January 30, 2015 at 11:44 am #4097783
sorry…held* not helpJanuary 30, 2015 at 11:43 am #4097781
@gngsatagrl: it sounds like she got the 896/570 but her bf only got the 896 and no 570. That’s why hers is help up like us.
I have seen many get their DD’s with 896. They don’t have the 570 to hold it up so they got theirs issued.
They need to hurry and take their damn fine out and issue ours already. Ridiculous!!!January 30, 2015 at 11:31 am #4097768
yes if you scroll down to .. frickship ..she says her fiance got one..trying to get more info…January 30, 2015 at 11:13 am #4097748January 30, 2015 at 11:11 am #4097745
Here is something I am pasting here from someone in a group I am in on FB:
My advocate just phoned me. She has been informed that this should resolve itself by the 6th as opposed to the 16th. Now this is only for those with 896/570 only on their transcripts! This is just information she was given so please don’t kill me if it doesn’t occur!
This is for those with date of 2-16-2015. I don’t know what to believe anymore but for what it’s worth, I hope this helps out.January 30, 2015 at 11:04 am #4097736
nothing new here, trans the same as Monday, cycle 20150402, getting frustrated but i see on here one person got their date in the same situation, so there is hope….
@frickship ..did your fiance have the 896/570 code also, and you said he was approved…on wmr or..? thnks!January 30, 2015 at 10:48 am #4097713
1 800-829-0582. Ext 632January 30, 2015 at 10:16 am #4097662
I’d be willing to call IRS if I know how to actually get to a LIVE person and not the automated service! >.<January 30, 2015 at 9:59 am #4097643
No news for me today. Transcripts show 896/570 and 20150402 still, 1 bar on wmr, and no DD. My girlfriend and I both filed a12/16 TT, very similar returns except that she had insurance. Her transcript finally updated this morning to 20150405 and 846, but her wmr is still at 1 bar. This is so crazy this year. Friends that filled after the 20th got their refunds today. Guess all we can do is wait….January 30, 2015 at 9:51 am #4097632
Tranny didn’t update for me…wow ppl at work that I done there taxes for them got dd today…. go figureJanuary 30, 2015 at 9:50 am #4097630
@AshleyfromSC15 Interesting, maybe that’s the problem. Thanks for sharing!January 30, 2015 at 9:31 am #4097610
Heres something else I just found posted that may or may not be applicable:
Offset Overflow Freeze (C–)
Master File generates the C– freeze:
When an offset overflow (computer capacity exceeded) exists
This freeze delays a TC 846 for one or two cycles.
Follow normal review procedures for the Offset Overflow Freeze
This is why some 896 already received their refund while others did not, the computers hit capacity for our 896 offsets, just means well receive our DD’S next week or the following at the latest.January 30, 2015 at 9:30 am #4097607
Anyone else getting the Technical difficulties msg when trying to log in to view your tranny? I wanted to see if the 896/570 codes have changed from early this morning. From what I’ve been reading people are saying that transcriptions update in real time, so I’m holding out a little hope for at least an update there.January 30, 2015 at 9:26 am #4097597
How is anyone even getting thru to the irs?January 30, 2015 at 9:18 am #4097593
There are so many people that are still updating and getting ddd and we’re just stuck… I don’t get itJanuary 30, 2015 at 9:02 am #4097577
Haven’t heard a thing. … calliing the irs pointless. They won’t tell you nothing. They don’t havea clue at what they’re doingJanuary 30, 2015 at 8:54 am #4097574
I know everyone’s in the same boat , we are too…just waiting. Has anyone heard anything new?January 30, 2015 at 8:22 am #4097542
Getting really frustrated here. I don’t care if the money doesn’t show up until 2/16, nor do I care if the WMF tool updates, but I hate not knowing WHY there is a hold up. Obviously more and more people that have paid the healthcare penalty are getting DDDs. I filed on 1/19 and H and R Block didn’t send it until the 20th. Didn’t get accepted until 1/21. It’s like someone at the IRS messed up on our returns and froze them and now we’re paying the price! It’s the not knowing why there is a hold up that is really killing me today!January 30, 2015 at 8:06 am #4097518
Scoot on over i’m joining too! Cycle 20150402 accepted and filed 21st. TC 896/570
Seems like we are all in the same overcrowded boat :)
Good morning from Texas!!!