If an individual owes money to the federal government because of a delinquent debt, the Treasury Department can offset that individual’s federal payment or withhold the entire amount to satisfy the debt.
HEALTHCARE PENALTY OFFSET (896)
- January 29, 2015 at 1:47 am #4096240
Anyone with 896 & 570 transaction codes on your transcript, please post here. Let’s update each other.
- February 3, 2015 at 6:25 pm #4100867
InFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:22 pm #4100864
Come on. You don’t have to havea BA I’m smart butt or whatever to know you should always have proper Lube. . DuhFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:19 pm #4100863
Hey they’re some crazy females in this world yo just never know when you might need someFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:17 pm #4100861
I bet she’s hot now that I think of it.February 3, 2015 at 6:15 pm #4100857
I completely didn’t consider ty being female. I feel embarrassed now.
The ladies man Dr. HowardFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:00 pm #4100851
Hey something has to pass the time.. be right back I’m at walgreens……..K.Y time baby ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!February 3, 2015 at 5:58 pm #4100850February 3, 2015 at 5:54 pm #4100849
Omg :0…… I told her that wasn’t safe to do… I told myself, I was like self we really don’t need to be doing this but self didn’t listinFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:51 pm #4100847
The Dr. Assumes you’ve contracted back herpes from unprotected back to back butt sex (mainly popular in Micronesia). My advice, ty should use ky on a back prophylactic to prevent backtually transmitted diseases BTDs.
Dr. HowardFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:30 pm #4100830
Hey doc I have this really odd rash on my back what do you reckon it is???
Space agent tyFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:30 pm #4100829
That was a great laugh… Nasa Space Agent Do Hicky… lolFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm #4100822
Yeah motherhood is one of those things. It’s funny it’s the crux of humanity but you don’t get paid for it…
Dr. Howard’s daily insightFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:08 pm #4100810
@ty: LOLFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:59 pm #4100803
That’s right. I’m a nasa space agent do hickey or what ever there called :pFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:46 pm #4100792
Hysterical… You can be whatever you want on here… doctor, a weatherman, an IRS agent… I need to think of something better than Single Mom, there are just too many already cornering that market. lolFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:44 pm #4100789
I do graduate with a BA in History this year though. Educated enough… maybeFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:39 pm #4100785February 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm #4100784
Lol I’m trying to stay positiveFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:35 pm #4100783
The f is a typo. Just 805, but she had a thick accent. I’ve debated whether she said 809 or another number but the ones I’ve seen wouldn’t make sense.
Be the odd man or woman out. It’s okay, it makes for lovely constructional debate.
P.S. I’m not really a Ph. D.February 3, 2015 at 4:35 pm #4100782
I completely understand! I am educated with a descent job, however, being a single mother of a 16 and 11 year old make it to where I have too much month at the end of my money! :) I don’t usually rely so heavily on the little that I do get back but, this year each day that passes feels like an eternity.
I am not sure why, but I do have a good feeling that we will no longer be “stuck” towards the end of the week. Let’s keep each other afloat and try to stay positive. Power of positive thoughts.February 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm #4100777
Come on guys and gals don’t make me be the odd ball. I’m still sticking with I don’t feel it happing this week… I don’t kmow why u just don’t feel it. :(February 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm #4100776
@clemonhistory: i wonder what that 805f means.February 3, 2015 at 4:21 pm #4100775
We’ll I called and the rep told me I was under review and has been since 1/26. Not sure why but only hoping it could be for the healthcare. So I’m not going to let this 971 worry or upset me.February 3, 2015 at 4:20 pm #4100774
Yes, it happened Friday. Btw, that was a tragic Super Bowl.February 3, 2015 at 4:14 pm #4100769
@clemsonhistory Not only are we in the same boat, but we’re sitting right next to each other. Haha. Our dates match exactly.
Did you happen to have TT 152 on WMR and it went away sometime inthe last few days ? I noticed mine gone last night, and im almost certain it WAS there sometime over the weekend.February 3, 2015 at 4:04 pm #4100761
Accepted on the 12th with many early filers. My cycle was the first one 20150402, Jan 26 is when my transcripts popped up with the infamous 570 896. Bastards at the IRS got me confused with some backwoods asshole. I’m an educated man, who just happens to be broke as hell, lol.
Dr. HowardFebruary 3, 2015 at 3:58 pm #4100755
@clemsonhistory .. Thank you so much for taking the time to call and post the information for us! If you don’t mind me asking, when did you file? I am hoping that is correct and we see something soon, I have never been so mentally consumed by this, the timing is terrible.February 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm #4100748
I want to be a beacon of hope in this. I called a TAdvocate this morning and she was blunt but very helpful. I asked her the same question in several different ways to make sure her answers remained the same. I found out that the transcript that is available for me is not updated. She said there were two more codes below the 570 that I didn’t see. One was the 571, which she explained was the profound “systemic release” which I thought was automatic after four days. Well apparently she said it is a four day thing, and the freeze will release at the end of this week. She said most likely Thursday, and that WMR would update with a DDD for next week, Monday or so. I truly don’t care what the DDD is, I will just be happy to see one. The other code, she said was an 805f which I couldn’t find in the IRS manual, but I haven’t had much time between classes today. I was in the 0402 cycle which a lot of us are. I expect that we will all see changes the end of this week and I wish everyone that exact statement. I posted this in a comment field in the #570group on Facebook as well. Furthermore, I repeatedly asked if I should open a hardship case because I told her my electricity was about to get shut off and she said it would be pointless because it would take 3 days for a response, and I would see an update before then. I’m Phillip Howard on the #570group.February 3, 2015 at 3:49 pm #4100745
@ty I am with you on this one! I had 0402, if everything was smooth we all would have seen our DDD and been processed last week.February 3, 2015 at 3:40 pm #4100741February 3, 2015 at 3:32 pm #4100733
@ty: i am still with @whathappend on this one. i still believe a lot of us this week will see something.February 3, 2015 at 2:37 pm #4100694
I’m sorry but if they were doing a good job terr would not be any delayesFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:21 pm #4100680
Hello, 0405 here with a lonely, solo 570, just checking in. No changes to my transcripts or WMR. Was able to transfer transcripts to FAFSA for my kids’ school. With that out of the way, I am less stressed. I expect to see something happen Friday. Transcripts update during the day. I hope I go this week. My deposit date should have been tomorrow… I’ll take next Wednesday no problem! I have to say… for a brand new program (collecting the healthcare tax), the IRS is doing a pretty good job. I’m interested to watch how they work through glitches, and I’ve taken the time to read through some parts of the manual. It is massive. I would love to get a look at their computer systems. Considering how many returns they process, it’s pretty impressive. We are still under the 21-day benchmark, which is the deal they make with us on WMR. Have a less stressful day! :)February 3, 2015 at 1:56 pm #4100658
I am still on one bar… tax topic 152 and still locked out from getting transcripts, I have lived in the same place for years, I have tried every possible variation for the past 7 days… I think I am locked out for no reason. Here’s to patience and hoping that we all see an update by tomorrow. I have not tried calling the IRS, I am super thankful for all of your updates, it is keeping me sane :)February 3, 2015 at 1:55 pm #4100655
I just got off the phone with IRS and the lady told me to expect at least a 28 day wait instead of 21 days. I have heard so many things that I don’t know what to believe anymore. We will just get it when we do I guess.February 3, 2015 at 12:18 pm #4100570
seems odd… but i noticed on WMR i happened to lose the Tax Topic 152.
Not sure as to WHEN i lost it cause im not checking it all the time, but im almost certain it was still there over the weekend.
Everything else… like the song, remains the same !February 3, 2015 at 12:08 pm #4100560
I’m starting to think more and more that our date will be 2/16 becuase that’s what the trannys are saying…. what your thoughts on thisFebruary 3, 2015 at 12:04 pm #4100556
@ty if they sent out a letter to us, yes, the 971 would be on our transcript.
I just saw somone named Rebecca who only had the 570 in the fb group (#Club570) I am in and hers updated today with an 846. But I guess her situation is diff from leslie ans Nikki because she said she had the 570 on her 2013 transcript since November. Her cycle date changed as well so looks like she will be getting her DD this Fri.February 3, 2015 at 11:54 am #4100549
2013….. so u are saying if we were getting a letter we would have for sure got the 9xx code right??February 3, 2015 at 11:29 am #4100527
Sorry…there would be NO* updateFebruary 3, 2015 at 11:27 am #4100525
panic*February 3, 2015 at 11:25 am #4100524
First, I am thankful that I did not wake up to my transcript updated to a 971 on it. Second, no panick here because I knew there would be an update yesterday or today thanks to @whathappened. Third, I haven’t heard of anyone or many of the 897/570’er get the 971 on transcript.
I am still counting on getting an update Wed into Thurs or over the weekend. When it gets to next week and if still nothing then I will freak out haha. I really believe we are fine because we have not received a letter and we didn’t get a 971. Be thankful that we didn’t get the 971 update today is all I can say.February 3, 2015 at 11:23 am #4100518
Ya calling them is pointless…. just hope whathappened said is correctFebruary 3, 2015 at 11:21 am #4100514
nothing new here, its the same ole, same ole situation…..frustrated but waiting and hoping….February 3, 2015 at 9:17 am #4100375
I just wish my transcripts would update one way or another so I would know what is going on with my return. I’ve seen a lot of people have called and most get different answers or get hung up on. It’s ridiculous.February 3, 2015 at 9:12 am #4100366
I have been told by alot of ppl that there is no way we can see themm. These ppl are air headsFebruary 3, 2015 at 9:09 am #4100359
Well I don’t kmow if it’s a good or.bad thing we didn’t get itFebruary 3, 2015 at 9:09 am #4100357
I didn’t get the 971 code either. I just spent 45 minutes on hold to speak to an extremely rude person named Ms Baker who told me there is no way I can see my transcripts! I was looking at them while talking to her! I only have the 570 code. She told me she doesn’t see the code and there have been no letters sent to me and hung up! Just like that.February 3, 2015 at 9:07 am #4100350
I most be the lucky man in the country, I just recieved a letter for the state of ohio saying I had to take an identity quiz, after completing the quiz it said i’d havto wait 3 more weeks to get my refund . along with waiting on my federal that has been sitting in limbo since jan 20th still no change transcripts still just the 570 and 896. wmr still one barFebruary 3, 2015 at 9:03 am #4100348
I didn’t get the 971 code either.February 3, 2015 at 8:58 am #4100341
Am I the only one who didn’t get the new 971 code???February 3, 2015 at 8:49 am #4100331
No change for me either still 570/896. Filed and accepted 1/21. 1 bar wmr and nothing has changed since last monday. So irritating. I’ve gotten my return in 6 days for the past 3 years! I just want to know when I’m getting it. This is nerve wrecking.February 3, 2015 at 8:39 am #4100326
@leslie I never had the 896 either but I had a penalty of $66… This is just confusing.February 3, 2015 at 8:38 am #4100324
I’m thinking it’s just a letter saying how much they appreciate us letting them invest our money interest free and to keep up the good work. ya think? Actually hearing you have one too, I’m positive it’s just the generic letter saying there is a delay that they are working out and no information is required at this time…. i suppose we will see if the thing actually got mailed since it’s dated 2/23/15 so who knows if it’s been sent out or if it will go out then because it will be past the 21 days at that point. ugh.February 3, 2015 at 8:34 am #4100318February 3, 2015 at 8:23 am #4100308
@nikki I woke up to 971 at the bottom of my transcripts too. I filed 20th, accepted the 21st, I have a healthcare credit rather than offset so I never had the 896, instead I overpaid for health insurance but have been sitting with a 570 since last Tuesday and this morning I saw the new 971 code at the bottom which I assume is to explain the delay or whatever. I’ve had no changes or lost bars on wmr, just holding at 1 bar and tt152 and the generic “you should have your refund in 21 days” stuff.February 3, 2015 at 7:26 am #4100269
I am not too worried about the 896/570 codes as I did my boyfriends taxes on the 23rd and on Saturday he got a ddd of 2/4. He also had the heath care penalty for himself and 2 dependents. I’m not sure if it makes a difference that he was only without insurance the first half of the year, then his employers insurance kicked in for he and his kids the last half and my son and I were without all year. I was never able to pull his transcripts however as the security questions that were asked were from years ago and he couldn’t remember any of the answers.February 3, 2015 at 7:15 am #4100263
@nikki Same here, I’m not in dire need of my refund either, but the stress of not knowing if I will get it this month or 4 months from now is killing me. I almost wish they would send me a letter so I knew what was going on. Until something changes, I’ll just keep checking and wondering.February 3, 2015 at 7:11 am #4100261
@ty Nope, mine didn’t. I want to know why our transcripts didn’t update either. If the 570 is supposed to fall off in 4 days, then wouldn’t they have to extend it or something if it is staying on? My transcripts look identical to last weeks.February 3, 2015 at 7:10 am #4100260
I reality just want a ddd. I’m not in dire need either but I know I’ll need it soon. As long as they give me a ddd, I’ll stop worrying so much. This just isn’t cool at all.February 3, 2015 at 7:07 am #4100256
So I’m assuming the 570 code didn’t fall off like the manual saidFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:46 am #4100241
I feel the same way. I think they will Walt to do us very lastFebruary 3, 2015 at 6:42 am #4100240
No news at all….I still have the 896/570 on my transcripts, 1 bar on WMR, and a huge lack of hope. A few years ago I owed for child support and it was handled faster than this. I am not in dire need of the money, but would still like to know if and when my refund will come through. Thankfully, next year I will have had insurance the whole year. I got insurance in August of last year so I don’t even owe for the whole year. I don’t understand how such a small amount of money can hold up my whole return ($116 thats it). I would have gladly paid the fine. I just feel like there was a glitch in their system that caused us to be froze and now they can’t seem to go back and unfreeze us. .February 3, 2015 at 6:40 am #4100239
I woke up to no change.February 3, 2015 at 6:12 am #4100229
I’m at the point of giving up. There ain’t no cents in this at all.February 3, 2015 at 6:05 am #4100226
I went over my return last night with fine tooth comb. If my 570 is for eic, then it must be a random review. Everything looks perfect on my end and is the same as it’s been for several years.
No change at all in transcripts. Maybe they will change throughout the day, but I’m not holding my breath. I am beyond frustrated.February 3, 2015 at 6:05 am #4100225
I checked my WMR and it still has that tax topic 152. Hopefully this notice isn’t anything too bad. It’s been 2 weeks today since I filed. I never want to go through this ever again.February 3, 2015 at 5:55 am #4100219
So cents my tranny didn’t update does that mean wmr will not update to?February 3, 2015 at 5:47 am #4100216
Wow I’m gladi woke up to no update. I would hate for things to get rolling this late in the ball game. SmhFebruary 3, 2015 at 5:33 am #4100205
Good morning all.bSo I woke up to a 971 on my transcript this morning. Guess I’ll be receiving a notice soon.February 3, 2015 at 1:26 am #4100149
-You are experiencing or are about to suffer economic harm.***
-You are facing an immediate threat of adverse action.
-You will incur significant costs if relief is not granted (including fees for professional representation).
-You will suffer irreparable injury or long-term adverse impact if relief is not granted.
-You have experienced a delay of more than 30 days to resolve a tax account problem.
-You have not received a response or resolution to your problem or inquiry by the date promised.
-A system or procedure has failed to:
operate as intended; or
resolve your problem or dispute within the IRS.
-The manner in which the tax laws are being administered:
raise considerations of equity, or
have impaired or will impair your rights.
-The National Taxpayer Advocate determines compelling public policy warrants assistance to an individual or group of taxpayers.
***”Economic harm” generally means utility cutoff, eviction, and similar events.***February 3, 2015 at 1:16 am #4100140
What is considered to be a hardship ?February 3, 2015 at 12:47 am #4100133
Hey group! I haven’t posted any updates because there really isn’t anything new to update you guys with from what we know already.
Hope we get some kind of movement this Wed!February 2, 2015 at 11:47 pm #4100112
I have A family member who works for the IRS and thwy werstold when training for thw AfA thw 570/896 xodes will take at least 30 days to release from thw date your taxes were accepted. Sorry, but it will be mid February beginning of March before you get your refunds people, unleaa you qualify for a hardship and get a hold of the advocacy line.February 2, 2015 at 10:27 pm #4100047
@NVkimi Nothing you can do as far as accessing the online version. You can use the mail request system and phone request system with a “close” match. Online requires you to have it exactly right, as it is pulling it up immediately. Only thing you can do is try 3 times, get locked out for 24 hours, and try again. Try to take note of which ways you tried, and don’t waste all 3 times using the same exact format. Things to try changing would be like N vs. North, Rd vs. Road. If your street has 2 names, try them all together like Johnson Ferry, try Johnsonferry. Its hit or miss unfortunatelyFebruary 2, 2015 at 10:20 pm #4100043
@whathappened what do you suggest doing to find out what the correct information is on the transcripts? Or do we just have to wait…February 2, 2015 at 10:20 pm #4100042
@pooh pooh Right. They send you a letter saying they offset your refund partially for a debt, but you got the rest as scheduled. A notice doesn’t mean your going to be delayed, its just how they inform you of things involving your account in particular.February 2, 2015 at 10:13 pm #4100035
Like when i owed child support but that didn’t hold my refund up.February 2, 2015 at 10:08 pm #4100029
@pooh pooh No. They send notices to ask you for information. Tell you your under review, audit, examination. Tell you they made adjustments to your account. Tell you they found a mistake for or against your favor. There is many letters/notices they send out for various reasons.February 2, 2015 at 10:04 pm #4100026
@andy I am in the exact same spot as you… Except I got locked out for the first time Wednesday for “incorrect info”, although I had put the same information in days prior and it worked fine. I have been waiting the 24 hours and have been looked out since. I quit trying Saturday. Keeping fingers crossed for all of us that we see something positive this week!February 2, 2015 at 10:04 pm #4100025
Do these notices always pertain to holding your refund ?February 2, 2015 at 10:03 pm #4100024
@andy Funny you mention that, I had the same exact thing happen to me. Didn’t register an account, was just viewing transcripts as a guest. Then all the sudden information that I had accessed my account with suddenly wasn’t working anymore, and I too locked myself out. It happens when you get resequenced/reprocessed (whatever you want to call it) or if you finish processing. Even if your address didn’t change from last year, the way the system recognizes and records it, can vary from year to year.
For example you live at 1234 North Sycamore Lane for 10 years
Say you access your transcripts 1 year and it comes up with your full address 1234 North Sycamore Lane
You try the following year to find that won’t work but 1234 N Sycamore Lane does work
You try again the 3rd year to find out neither of the previous 2 years formats work but instead 1234 North Sycamore Ln does work.
Well if the information you use this year reverts back to the previous year, or suddenly doesn’t work, its because they either resequenced/reprocessed you, causing the new information to temporarily be gone OR you have completed processing, and updated again, and the address was tweaked slightly.
People who created accounts, don’t notice this kind of change because they sign in with a username and don’t have to address verify each time.February 2, 2015 at 9:54 pm #4100022
@sax mom 971 on transcripts is the code for Notice Issued. Innocent spouse form is 8857 I believe. You may get a 971 on your transcripts if you filed innocent spouse, but that will just be a notice pertaining to your particular tax situation. Each notice has is own separate notice/letter number to identify what its for.February 2, 2015 at 9:38 pm #4100017
Isn’t 971 Innocent Spouse?February 2, 2015 at 9:38 pm #4100016
I am one of the 570/896 ppl. Reading thru this has been most helpful. I have the cycle code 20150402 as well had the health care penalty, filed 1/20, accepted 1/21 still stuck at 1 bar. Same as most everyone else here lol . I was hoping to check my transcripts tonight or tomorrow morning to see if anything has changed but it locked me out for 24 hours because I supposedly entered some wrong info. Was the same info I entered yesterday and the day before and it worked. since I will not be able to check my transcripts again until tomorrow evening I am hoping all of you will update here if yours change at all so I maybe have an idea if mine may change as well.February 2, 2015 at 8:59 pm #4099992
Thanks for your help whathappened.February 2, 2015 at 8:52 pm #4099988
@pooh pooh, she can’t what? Talk to the IRS? Yea they will tell her the same thing they tell you, wait 21 days or if the notice tells you to contact them, she can sooner. However if the letter you get says no further information is required from you at this time, you still have to wait the 21 days.February 2, 2015 at 8:52 pm #4099987
Well dangFebruary 2, 2015 at 8:49 pm #4099986
I’m tax preparer said she can’t until after i receive the letter or it’s been over 21 days.February 2, 2015 at 8:46 pm #4099985
@*ty* Nope. I said this the other day, but I don’t think people quite understand it. Yes, your return transcript shows up once its in the system and been processed, and at the conclusion of processing you move on to the next step. However the next step isn’t always a refund. Some people get a refund issued. Some people get reviews posted. Some people end up with an examination/audit. This happens after the fact because they don’t know that they want to review or question your return until the information is in the system, and processes, and than throws up a flag saying that something needs to be verified or reviewed.February 2, 2015 at 8:46 pm #4099984
I thought so too ty.February 2, 2015 at 8:43 pm #4099982
no i don’t nor my son or my boyfriend,February 2, 2015 at 8:42 pm #4099981
And I thought if we could see our return tranny we were in good shape??February 2, 2015 at 8:42 pm #4099980
@pooh pooh Right. Your preparer puts in the information for your healthcare, submits your return and the IRS takes their money. I forget. Did you have healthcare???February 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm #4099977
I just don’t see why this is so hard for them to get going..February 2, 2015 at 8:36 pm #4099976
mine is reflecting my amount after penalty but my tax preparer filed the fee on my tax return.February 2, 2015 at 8:34 pm #4099974
My hope for good luck is fading away.February 2, 2015 at 8:34 pm #4099973
Oh and Yes I have been able to see all 3 of my 2014 transcripts since last Tuesday. :)February 2, 2015 at 8:32 pm #4099972
What happened beat me to the question. I wild think u would be able to see that code cents u are viewing the actually trannyFebruary 2, 2015 at 8:31 pm #4099971
@whathappened Yes it was today that I spoke with the IRS rep. :) Thanks for your input on things. I had prepared myself for the high probability of seeing that tomorrow.February 2, 2015 at 8:30 pm #4099967
So she didn’t see the 896 at all???February 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm #4099966
@pooh pooh So she saw 971/570 and not 896??? Yet you see 570/896 and not 971???? I can’t even begin to explain how that is possible.
As for the transcripts, no, they don’t only update once a week. People on daily cycles have their transcripts come available multiple days per week. Your transcripts become available as your return is beginning to be processed, and continue to update until complete, and post to a cycle, for example 20150402, which is what most 896/570’s are in. There haven’t been any updates in a few days currently because as I said Friday was a deferred day and Saturday and Sunday aren’t posting days. So the next possible day for info to post to transcripts will be tonight. WMR still won’t reflect anything new until Wednesday though, except for people who are new acknowledgements, and some may continue to lose bars.February 2, 2015 at 8:28 pm #4099964
I may be wrong but I believe they get updated multiple times a week.February 2, 2015 at 8:21 pm #4099957
So transcripts only get updated once a week ?February 2, 2015 at 8:17 pm #4099955
She said she saw it since last week when i told her i had the codes 570/896 she said she saw 570/971 from the irs software.February 2, 2015 at 8:17 pm #4099954
So u don’t think it was on there because it wasn’t posted Friday or etc??February 2, 2015 at 8:14 pm #4099953
@pooh pooh The only places those codes show up in on your transcript. She can’t pull your transcript without your permission. She does have your permission as your preparer, to call the IRS and discuss your account on your behalf. When does she claim that she saw the 971, like I just told Niki0402, if this has been reported as showing up on Friday or Today, you wouldn’t see it yet.February 2, 2015 at 8:13 pm #4099952
Wow we will all probably wake up with thatFebruary 2, 2015 at 8:10 pm #4099951
@niki0402 When did you call? Today?? It would be possible for her to see a 971 that you can’t IF it has shown up since Friday. Transcripts have not updated since late Thursday into Friday because of the IRS have a deferred day on Friday. New stuff will start posting to transcripts tonight, and if they issued you a notice, you’ll see it show up on your Transcript.February 2, 2015 at 8:09 pm #4099950
It’s not on my transcript and I haven’t received a letter yet.February 2, 2015 at 8:06 pm #4099945
BTW this is what my transcript looks like
806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-15-2015 -$——-
766 Credit to your account 04-15-2015 -$—–
768 Earned income credit 04-15-2015 -$——
896 Refund applied to non-IRS debt 02-16-2015 $217.00
570 Additional account action pending 02-16-2015 $0.00
and she said she sees that I have the 971 under the 570February 2, 2015 at 8:05 pm #4099944
My tax preparer says she has the link to the irs and she sees codes 570/971 for me but i only see 570/896.February 2, 2015 at 8:03 pm #4099942
@whathappened @nikki – I had no changes this year other then the healthcare penalty, and no I can’t see the 971 code on my transcript. I called the IRS today and told them I had a 1121 on my WMR (I don’t, had 1 bar and TT 152 since I was accepted on the 21st) and that WMR said I needed to call. She explains that it can be an issue so she pulls up my info and asked if I had seen my transcripts. I told her yes and she said “So you can see the 570 and then the 971 below that?” . I said no I only see the 896 which is for the healthcare and the 570. She said “OK so you cant see the 971, well that probably because that code is mostly for us.” She said it wasn’t a big deal and that is was directly related to the healthcare penalty but because of the issues with the system this year I was going to see a 1-3 weeks delay due to the penalty.
I’m hoping its just a letter sent explaining what was taken out but I still worry ya know? Has anyone else around here mentioned anything about something like that? Anyway I have to run, Hope I answered the questions. I have to go meet the bus.February 2, 2015 at 8:03 pm #4099941
@pooh pooh They randomly do reviews from time to time, with no basis, other than that’s how they weed out some cases of fraud, and innocent, honest people get delayed because of it. As for the 971, yes if they have already issued and sent you a notice, you would see it on the transcript.February 2, 2015 at 8:02 pm #4099940
Pooh pooh… yes it should be on your tranny.February 2, 2015 at 8:01 pm #4099939
Then why do we see ppl with ONLY the 896.. why don’t they have the 570??? Or do u believe those ppl were trolls????February 2, 2015 at 7:59 pm #4099937
Would the 971 be on my transcript ?February 2, 2015 at 7:56 pm #4099933
I never had a problem claiming earned income credit before and the state already gave me a DD for 2/09/15.February 2, 2015 at 7:55 pm #4099930
I don’t have any offsets i called offset hotline.February 2, 2015 at 7:52 pm #4099928
@cmonnnnn Yes. You may have a 570 because the healthcare penalty, HOWEVER, it can also be because of EIC or something else they may want to question or review. If you have 896/570 and are 100% certain you have no other offsets, past tax debts, and you didn’t claim any other refundable credits, such as EIC, than your 570 is being cause by the health care issues only. But if you fall into one of those other categories, your 570 may mean something completely different.February 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm #4099925
I don’t have those codes on my transcript only 570/896/786/150/766/806.February 2, 2015 at 7:41 pm #4099924
@whathappened So claiming the eic could be the reason for the 570 even I have the 896 health penalty?February 2, 2015 at 7:38 pm #4099922
@pooh pooh Do you have any other codes? 810 freeze?? 971 notice issued?February 2, 2015 at 7:36 pm #4099921
What happened…. I hear ya…. thanks for all the updates u do… I’m glad someone can make cents out of the manual lolFebruary 2, 2015 at 7:34 pm #4099918
Yep… don’t know what we would do without u whathappendFebruary 2, 2015 at 7:33 pm #4099917
I claimed earned in come credit and have codes 570 and 896.February 2, 2015 at 7:32 pm #4099916
@*ty* I understand what you are saying and wouldn’t take you as being ignorant. I try to only offer up facts that are able to be backed up, for example things in the manual. I don’t promise to be 100% correct all the time, but I also won’t share something that makes no sense, or a rumor that can’t even remotely be proven because its just hearsay. I don’t have any secret source, or someone on the inside. I do however have a pretty good understanding of what I have read, and feel very confident in wmr updates and money this week. I wouldn’t share that info if I wasn’t, because I don’t aim to provide false hope for myself or others.February 2, 2015 at 7:26 pm #4099913
@whathappened I swear I would be a nervous wreck w/o you, lol. I kind of feel relieved because I’m not the only one. Like for the past week I’ve been stressed about this. Praying for an update tomorrow…. Positive update.February 2, 2015 at 7:16 pm #4099907
Whathappend…. why do u feel so certain we will see dd this week? Not.beikg a smart but u just seem to know your stuff.February 2, 2015 at 7:08 pm #4099902
@nikki0402 Do you have any other codes besides 896/570?? I see you say a 971, that means they issued you a letter, and sending it to you, you likely should of received it by now or very soon. What else did you claim?? EIC by chance? Had any major changes this past year? Change in job/income, ,change in marital status, change in dependents??February 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm #4099899
The reason people get so many different answers when calling the IRS, is because it depends on who you talk to. Some of the temps literally know NOTHING. To top it off, the ones that know a little more, are told to read off of a script. Yes a script. When you call in, they are told to not tell you the details of a hold code, or an audit code. They are suppose to give answers like, its still processing or It just needs more time to process. Every once in a while you get someone in a department, that is actually allowed to look further into your account, and they still aren’t suppose to give out certain information. A lot of time they will ask questions to see what you know.
For example, If you are calling in, and ask do I have a 570 with 896, and is that because of the health care penalty. They can tell you, that it is, because you already know that. HOWEVER, they fail to mention that you may also have a EIC freeze, or an income review hold. They are not being fully open or transparent with your account details, because their policy is to not give out any more information than necessary. Calling over and over again will likely confuse you because each persons ability to access your account and their own general knowledge varies, therefore their answers are going to vary, and you won’t know what to believe.
I still say we should see updates on WMR on Wednesday, money the end of the week for MOST of use who are ONLY 570/896 health care penalty or 570 because of the premium health credit (whether you got to much, or owed some). If you have other issues, such as past tax debts, offsets, claiming EIC, income review, etc., your return is in a different category, and may take longer.February 2, 2015 at 5:58 pm #4099876
971 means u have a letter coming in the mail.February 2, 2015 at 5:56 pm #4099875
@nikki0402 are you able to view your transcript online? And what does a 971 mean if you don’t mind me asking?February 2, 2015 at 5:42 pm #4099866
Well I just called about my 896/570, and the rep told me that she can see a 971 after the 570. She says its related to the healthcare penalty…..but I really really HATE this. I know how bad 971 can be.February 2, 2015 at 4:34 pm #4099828
Yep maybe something will happen tomorrow. I just don’t kmow…. There are so many different answers out there and the irs does not make it any eaiserFebruary 2, 2015 at 4:32 pm #4099825February 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm #4099810
@nikki I know it’s hard, but try and stay positive. I’m really hoping tonight’s update brings us all good news. It’s been an emotional roller coaster for me all week since I saw that dreaded 570 code.February 2, 2015 at 3:53 pm #4099805
So if we are on a daily cycle, how soon would we all see an update, best case scenario? I am just not sure if we are supposed to do something or just wait.February 2, 2015 at 3:48 pm #4099800
@rick1080hd: yes, @CRYSTALINORLANDO got both codes 896/570. She got a DDD of 2/6 on her WMR just this past Saturday.February 2, 2015 at 3:48 pm #4099799
Like I’m trying not to worry, get upset, or cry but this sucks. I haven’t even signed up for insurance yet and by the looks of it, I don’t know if I want to go through this again. Like we really need our money. It’s really not fair. I mean of course they’re going to get their money off the top, and it’s already been deducted so why put us through all of this!February 2, 2015 at 3:40 pm #4099795
America has turned into a dictatorshipFebruary 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm #4099790
I am trying to be positive here… how could they possibly penalize us and then hold us up by not giving us our refunds? Obviously if we did not have health care we could not afford it… it makes no sense!February 2, 2015 at 3:20 pm #4099784
The more I research and read the more I think it will be a long time before we get anything. I promise next year I will put down I have insurance.February 2, 2015 at 2:20 pm #4099741
It would be my luck that it would take that longFebruary 2, 2015 at 1:29 pm #4099712
@rick1080hd, this is the first time I’ve ever had this 570 code. Every other year I’ve always gotten my taxes back within 9 days or so. Never had any problems. I know this can only be healthcare related. But all we can do is wait. That’s the gov’t for you..February 2, 2015 at 1:26 pm #4099708
Sry I forgot to ask but has anyone in the same situation recived a ddd on refund and had this issue resolved?February 2, 2015 at 1:14 pm #4099700
after veiwing my last 4 transcripts I noticed i had a 570 code on my 2012 return and it was held up till April. that year i got so combat letter . In the end their was nothing wrong with my return I got my full refund . But yet i was held up under a manual review for whatever reason .. no real explanation from the or the t.a i spoke with that year. When i looked at this years transcript and compared them to my 2012 and seen the same code 570 I knew the irs was gonna try to mess with my return again.February 2, 2015 at 1:02 pm #4099688
@rick1080hd, i dont have the 896 code. I only have the 570 code. But I did get insurance through the marketplace.February 2, 2015 at 12:59 pm #4099683
I filed my taxes on 1-20-2015 accepted 1-20-2015 still one bar on wmr cycle date of 20150402. I ordered my transcripts Friday and viewed them online same day and noticed i have the 896 code along with 570 . after reading some people response to this code I called the irs 15 min ago . I got someone on the phone pretty quickly . She looked at my account and told me its a freeze on my account .She also told me that it would take an additional 2-3 weeks. I don’t owe the irs any money i had my a.c.a. takin out of my refund . I was told their going to being looking further into alot of account with the a.c.a. So it made me wonder if we are being singled out since we filed our taxes honestly. And our there others without th 896 being held up .February 2, 2015 at 12:45 pm #4099674
Some of these reps clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. So I called and let’s just say he didn’t ask for any type of credentials so I’m assuming he was just telling me stuff off the top I his head. He didn’t look into my account at all. Jut told me that the code 570 is a freeze and they’re not allowed to give any information until after those 21 days, which mine would be on the 10th…. And then he said if I didn’t receive a refund by then, it would take an additional 6 weeks Bc of the penalty I have to pay back for healthcare which is only $66. Now that didn’t sound right to me at all. He was surprised that I had my transcript already lol. When I called on Friday a different rep got all of my information and looked through my account and told me i had nothing to worry about. It was just a system issue. I’m more likely to believe the person i spoke with on Friday.February 2, 2015 at 12:26 pm #4099649
So if I was accepted the 13th my 21 days is up tomorrow?February 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm #4099639
Hello everyone I talked to someone from the IRS this morning I was told that my money from the health care bs lol was taken out already even though I still had the 570 code on my transcript and it usually holds it up two to three weeks but because I was accepted on the 21 I should have my refund by the 11th of February…she sounded believable and I hope she’s right and I hope this can help anyone elseFebruary 2, 2015 at 11:50 am #4099615
@what happened. I’m asking you because you seem to know a little bit about this. My transcript shows the 896 for the health care penalty. Right underneath it is a 570 code for Additional Account Action pending with a $0.00 amount. Is that 570 code showing because of the health care penalty?February 2, 2015 at 11:28 am #4099592
@*ty* I surely hope we do see an update tonight. This is just ridiculous.February 2, 2015 at 11:11 am #4099576
A lot of ppl are saying they will update tonight. We shall see… calling the irs for information is pointless. They won’t even bother looking at your account. They get paid to sit on there butts and say wait 21 days then call backFebruary 2, 2015 at 10:26 am #4099546
Good morning all… This has been a very rainy and depressing day,Lol. I was going to call the IRS, but what’s the point? Hopefully I’ll see a positive change tomorrow morning. Smh. Enjoy your day everyone.February 2, 2015 at 10:19 am #4099540
@2013taxpayer what is your theory on transcipts updating? I am reading some say they will not update, once the codes are on there, they stay as a record, some are saying they will update when the penalty is paid, your thoughts?February 2, 2015 at 10:08 am #4099530
yes I did have health insurance through the market place and I used my 1095A to do my taxesFebruary 2, 2015 at 9:45 am #4099514
nothing new this morning for me, same codes on transcipt, sbbt and wmr same…..still waiting..anyone have any positive change at all?February 2, 2015 at 9:10 am #4099497
Well I called the irs. And the lady was very rude go figure she said they can not look into code 570 till the 21 days so I hung up and on hold again…. I have all day to do thisFebruary 2, 2015 at 8:59 am #4099493
Hey everyone I did my taxes on 1/19 was accepted 1/20 already have my state I was able to view my transcripts Saturday now I can’t I had codes 570 and 896 The system was down for me all yesterday it was back up this morning with the same 1 bar and topic 152 can anyone else relate?February 2, 2015 at 8:45 am #4099475
Peachey… did u have health insurance last year?February 2, 2015 at 8:12 am #4099462
Hey I have the 896/570 filed and accepted the 12th had one bar up until this morning now says a refund date will be provided when available…can anyone say if this means review or just a message that will update tonight my trannys are all available and cycle 20140402 since last week….thanks!February 2, 2015 at 8:04 am #4099454
I lost my bars but I can see my transcripts and these are the codes I have.
the 570 amount is 00.00
my cycle code is 20150404
HELP!?!?!?!?!February 2, 2015 at 7:51 am #4099451
@ 2013taxpayer: Yes I was able to view my transcripts on Wednesday 1/28 and was able to see the 896/570 TC’s but was just not able to access my return transcripts then I ended up locking myself out I guess for trying too many times. But I filed on 1/6 and was accepted 1/13. Received my update on WMR website Saturday morning 1/31 and was able to access my return transcript late Friday night via phone. I hope my info helps some of you. Im almost positive most of you will be receiving updates on WMR website tonight going into tomorrow morning or tomorrow night going into Wednesday morning with a DD for Friday 2/6.February 2, 2015 at 6:50 am #4099437
Yes, @whathappened, very grateful for you posting the information that you have. It’s made the wait a little more bearable for me. Thank you!February 2, 2015 at 1:33 am #4099406
Screenshot them!! I will post them in fb group I am in…#Club570February 2, 2015 at 1:32 am #4099405
Thank you for the info. Although I’m sorry for everyone dealing with this issue, I’m relieved to have others in the same boat.February 2, 2015 at 1:27 am #4099403
@2013taxpayer Not sure what other forums or pages you are on, but I posted below about not losing bars as well, it may be useful information to some.February 2, 2015 at 1:23 am #4099402
And as for people who have never lost their bars, Ill touch on that real quick too, so no one gets scared. Not losing your bars, does not mean that you are hung up or not processing. It simply means you have never sat still in queue long enough to trigger WMR to drop bars. Most people who lost bars were the super early filers. They lost their bars because they sat still the longest, because when the 570 code started coming up, there wasn’t a fix right away. There seems to be people up til around the 23rd ish (may be some after that) that were getting the 570, when they fixed the problem. People who filed closer to the 20th or after, but before the fix, may not have ever lost their bars, because they haven’t sat idol for an extended time.February 2, 2015 at 1:07 am #4099395
@2013taxpayer It’s like I told you before, I aim to share only facts, and not act like I am an “all knowing power” LOL! As for the ones that doubt, I am ok with that as well. I can’t force anyone to believe my findings anymore than I can force the IRS to follow their own rules. I have seen speculation from other sites and forums, and everyone can gather information and interpret it however they want. That’s why I said earlier, that people need to not look for updates this morning (Monday), because its not going to happen. Yes, the code is 4 day systemic release, but that just to release the code. The refund has to then finish processing/reprocess/resequence (whatever you want to call it), and than post to your account to get the refund issued. Nothing has posted since Thursday into Friday, and won’t post until late tomorrow, which will trigger WMR updates on Wednesday for most.February 2, 2015 at 1:00 am #4099393February 2, 2015 at 12:58 am #4099391
@whathappened: WOOO WHOOO!!! You are the smartest person! I have been saying how spot on you are but nope…doubts, doubts, doubts! Just like the DDD’s posting lol. #YouAreAwesomeFebruary 2, 2015 at 12:54 am #4099387
@2013taxpayer Just don’t get discouraged when the updates don’t show up today (Monday morning). Being the Friday was a deferred day, and nothing has posted since Thursday, there wont be any updates tonight. Some people may continue to lose bars, and new acknowledgements will show up. However updates related to transcripts, and posts to account will be Monday into Tuesday, and Wmr should update Tuesday into Wednesday for most.February 2, 2015 at 12:46 am #4099384
@2013taxpayer Yea when they first disappeared it was likely because the 570 popped up, held up your return, and your return stopped processing normally because of it. That caused the bars to go away along with the refund amount. Refund amount coming back is GREAT NEWS! That means the system is now once again acknowledging your return and your refund amount, and you are moving along. Like I said before, this week will be updates and money!February 2, 2015 at 12:38 am #4099382
@whathappened: so i know you posted about bars disappearing because it is caused by not having updates and was just wondering about mine haha.
Bars & amount disappeared (still had ttt152) 1/17
2/1 Bars are still missing but now my refund shows and my date ending period & tt152 disappeared
I hope everything is ok with mineFebruary 2, 2015 at 12:29 am #4099381
@angie that’s the predicament most of us are in. No you don’t have to wait til April. Worst case scenario would be February 16th, but based on research and phone calls members here have done, its looking like we should have some updates this week.February 2, 2015 at 12:12 am #4099380
Worried. Can view both return & transcript. Filed 1/20 & accepted 1/21 cycle 20150402. Wer has 1 bar w/no DDD. Shows still processing 152.
On transcript: Codes 806; 766; 768 with my refund amounts and date of April 15 2015
Then 896 date of Feb 16
And 570 $0.00 with date of Feb 16
Does this mean I’ll have to wait until april 15 ? Would really appreciate Any help or info.February 1, 2015 at 11:14 pm #4099366
@saxmom: that’s right :)
Once you have access to your return, you are done processing. Just like many of us here with the 896/570. We are done processing cos we have our return transcript. We have a hold of 570 so they can take the fine out and it will be released to us. Unless like @whathappened said…something else is going on withn your return (other offsets, etc.).February 1, 2015 at 10:58 pm #4099362
Here’s a little ray of sunshine… I am 0405 with 570 only, due an additional healthcare credit. I just used the IRS Data Retrieval Tool to transfer my tax info to my kids’ FAFSA. I don’t think I’d be able to do that if my return wasn’t processed and done. Looking forward to a refund soon.February 1, 2015 at 8:58 pm #4099318
working fine hereFebruary 1, 2015 at 8:52 pm #4099315
now when I try and look at my transcript and I type in my user ID it says its not recognized so I said forgot user name and it sent it to my email and it was the same one I am typing in but it wont let me know does anyone else has this problem? is it down right now maybe?February 1, 2015 at 8:44 pm #4099311
Figures. Just saw someone that was approved the 13 with a ddd of the 4th :(February 1, 2015 at 8:22 pm #4099305February 1, 2015 at 8:20 pm #4099304
@2013taxpayer It’s not a problem. I have tried to help out the past few years where I could, even when it didn’t affect me. It just so happens this year I got caught up in this 896/570 crap, and took a special interest to it. Since I was trying to figure it all out for myself, I might as well share it. Glad to be of help!February 1, 2015 at 8:08 pm #4099297February 1, 2015 at 8:07 pm #4099296February 1, 2015 at 8:04 pm #4099293
@nikki your 570 is health care related then. The IRS knows you owe a small amount back, which is similar to our penalties. Your 570 should fix itself as well along with ours.February 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm #4099292
@whathappened yes I had insurance through the marketplace and I had to pay back a very small amount which was deducted as soon as I put the figures in.February 1, 2015 at 8:00 pm #4099291
@starburst Yes. There a multiple people that have contacted the IRS, and have all been told the 896/570 together is healthcare related, and it is being fixed. If it goes the way it should, we should see our money this week, end of the week
@*ty* Yes. Having 896 with 570 only is good. Means your hold is directly related to your penalty, and nothing you need to doFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:57 pm #4099289
@nikki If those are your only codes, 150 is your return filed tax liability which is likely 0.00, 766 Is child tax credit, 768 is EIC. If your 570 is after that, and you have no 971, or 810, you shouldn’t be delayed. Did you have health care? Were you exempt from the penalty?February 1, 2015 at 7:57 pm #4099288
I don’t won’t to answer that wrong… but I have the 896 with it… but from what I understand the 570 having a 0.00 is a good sign.February 1, 2015 at 7:54 pm #4099287
On a better note. I drove by the car dealership today and the diesel truck I won’t is still there just need a down payment….. come on irs lolFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:52 pm #4099286
so when do they plan on fixing it? I know I got on tonight and it still just says they received it and its still processing on WMR has anyone actually talked to the IRS just want to make sure this info is correct is all…. just wondering where people are getting their answers?February 1, 2015 at 7:49 pm #4099284
@whathappened are you saying that if we only have a 570, that we are under review for something? I’m not seeing a 896 along with 570. I only see 150, 766(-$1934),768(-$5240), 570($0.00). Sorry if I misunderstood, but I’m just trying to get some kind of understanding. Yeah I did talk to a rep in Friday and he told me that I did nothing wrong it’s just a system issue and I’ll get my money.February 1, 2015 at 7:49 pm #4099282
Man I hope we get a update Monday nightFebruary 1, 2015 at 7:48 pm #4099281
Thank you so much whathappened. I had to pay back child support in 2011 and there was no delay just took the money I owed and gave me my refund in less than 10 days.February 1, 2015 at 7:47 pm #4099280
@*ty* Yeap. Because we filed early, when the system wasn’t functioning properly, it through up a hold code, and now they have to fix it.February 1, 2015 at 7:42 pm #4099278
Then why in the world are we still waiting? ??? Because we filled early? ??February 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm #4099277
@pooh pooh Yes. Many have reported calling IRS, and it was explained the 570 shouldn’t have been there to begin with. Being the health care penalty is new this year, the chance of this kind of error was great, and it has happened. System wasn’t set up right to deal with the penalties being deducted from refunds, and has since been fixed, which is why you won’t see a bunch of new people saying they have 896/570 together. There will be people getting 896 for the penalty, or a 570 because they have another reason for a hold or review, but the issue we have has been corrected for new filers. Now they have to reprocess and fix all of us.